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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 23:24:36
June 09 2012 23:24 GMT
#2361
On June 10 2012 08:21 trinxified wrote:
sold this weapon for 2 million (1.7 after 15% off)

[image loading]

Now I kinda wish I kept it against Reflect Damage mobs... I think I underpriced it.

I actually think you overpriced it. I had a similar staff with 90 more DPS and more vitality. Life on hit is good, but you have like 100 or 150 less DPS than most other weapons.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
June 09 2012 23:54 GMT
#2362
On June 10 2012 08:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 08:21 trinxified wrote:
sold this weapon for 2 million (1.7 after 15% off)

[image loading]

Now I kinda wish I kept it against Reflect Damage mobs... I think I underpriced it.

I actually think you overpriced it. I had a similar staff with 90 more DPS and more vitality. Life on hit is good, but you have like 100 or 150 less DPS than most other weapons.


Most likely a Barb bought it. Not bad. The staff won't work for the Barb, that's why mine was bought pretty quickly.
Mufaa
Profile Joined October 2010
219 Posts
June 10 2012 01:22 GMT
#2363
I'm at my wit's end on Inferno Belial. I one shot him on hell, got through A2 Inferno in a day, but I can't make a dent in him. I've tried a few strategies and they all fall flat in P2. My stats aren't quite as nice as I'd like them to be, but I'm incredibly broke (upgraded my gear when starting inferno and now sitting at like 60k).

I've got:
17k HP
4481 Armor (With Force Armor)
173 Fire Res
1540 Int
1.21 AS with a weapon @ 1235.5 DPS (2H Axe)

I've tried the Archon P1, RoF burn P2 strategy with no luck. With Force Weapon I have ~38k DMG which the guides say should easily do it, but I don't come close.

My best attempts (~35%) have been using this build I got comfortable with when surviving was more important in A2 than A1. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#acXROQ!dYX!aYabYY

Basically I don't get hit P1 between FA and Tele-Fracture/Illusionist and its a joke. P2 I burn as hard as I can before adds spawn and get him to about 50%. But then my options are either use Fracture to get close to Belial to damage him with AO (I usually die to fireball and melee before I have a chance to react somewhere along the line). My best attempts have been to just kite the adds and hope the hydra chips him, getting in damage when I can but somewhere along the line I get one shot.

Do I just need better stats or is there some build I'm missing for this? It's gotten to the point where I'm trying to buy a kill for the last of my gold just so I can farm A3.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
June 10 2012 01:24 GMT
#2364
Your HP and resists are pretty low.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11519 Posts
June 10 2012 01:45 GMT
#2365
I'd suggest trying celestial orb instead of tap the source, and i would agree, your health and resist are very low. P1/2 are becoming much easier if you can actually take three of any hits. Also, i'd suggest throwing outMM for force weapon. And at that resi/hp, isn't force armor and illusionist completely useless since everything oneshots you anyways?
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
June 10 2012 02:04 GMT
#2366
Resist might be nice on belial but it isn't strictly necessary in my experience, what is definitly too low is your HP. You need to be able to take 2 hits from the adds without dieing.

Agree on the force weapon instead of MM as well (definitly agree in fact). Personally while I've almost always played AO, for Belial I've used Blizz/hydra instead. It means you can focus on running a lot more, because Blizzard and hydra are both fire and forget.

Yes Phase 2 will take longer, but it should be far easier to keep everything under control. Don't try to get close to Belial, simply throw the hydra next to him and try to keep Blizzard on him.

Depending on your HP switching glass cannon to Blur might also help you reach the level where you can take 3 hits.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
June 10 2012 02:53 GMT
#2367
I kinda stopped reading at 17k HP, that's far too low. My first kill was managed at about 24k HP and 40k dps or so (with 2 attack speed pieces or so).

Don't know if this video will help but others have found it useful:
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KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
June 10 2012 07:05 GMT
#2368
what is the slow % of frost hydra?
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
June 10 2012 07:16 GMT
#2369
Get more hp, even if you manage to kill him with 17K, A3 would be a one shot fest.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
nanoscorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1237 Posts
June 10 2012 08:06 GMT
#2370
Agreed on the HP bit, I just killed Belial with around 32k and needed allll of them for p2 and p3. I had to switch to blizzard to handle all the snakes in p2. The whole event is basically about staying alive, dodging snakes and dropping damage on him when it won't get you killed. One thing that helped me out a bit in P2 was using his casts to locate Belial offscreen while kiting snakes. Sidestep the middle swarm, fire an orb at him, resume kiting snakes around a blizzard. If you're packing IAS dps, consider swapping it out for crit, vit, or more int. You really don't get a ton of turret-time, so the attack speed multiplier isn't helping as much as it might elsewhere.

The build I finally settled on was:
Magic Weapon (Force Weapon)
Energy Armor (Force Armor)
Diamond Skin (Crystal Shell)
Teleport (Fracture)
Blizzard (Grasping Chill)
Arcane Orb (Tap the Source)
Evocation, Astral Presence, Blur
~29k dps, 32k hps, 330 allres, 5k armor for reference
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
June 10 2012 08:08 GMT
#2371
On June 10 2012 17:06 nanoscorp wrote:
You really don't get a ton of turret-time, so the attack speed multiplier isn't helping as much as it might elsewhere.


Wait what? If you don't have time to turret you want attack speed. If you sit and turret your IAS is wasted because you have no AP left.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 10 2012 08:46 GMT
#2372
just found out act4 is the best place to farm as a wizard: get archon, start act4, go through the first portal and there are unlimited mobs for you to max out archon duration. Proceed to clear act4 with archon.... LOLZ
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
iLLusive
Profile Joined March 2010
United States274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 09:59:34
June 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#2373
Seeking any quality advice I can get on possibly better build or gear improvements. I have nearly 500k to spend currrently and just hitting my face on trying to kill stuff in Inferno difficulty. Thanks for the help folks


[image loading]

My current build:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#acXRSP!YXU!YYabZc
The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving.
Ktk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)753 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 10:09:06
June 10 2012 10:07 GMT
#2374
On June 10 2012 10:22 Mufaa wrote:
I'm at my wit's end on Inferno Belial. I one shot him on hell, got through A2 Inferno in a day, but I can't make a dent in him. I've tried a few strategies and they all fall flat in P2. My stats aren't quite as nice as I'd like them to be, but I'm incredibly broke (upgraded my gear when starting inferno and now sitting at like 60k).

I've got:
17k HP
4481 Armor (With Force Armor)
173 Fire Res
1540 Int
1.21 AS with a weapon @ 1235.5 DPS (2H Axe)

I've tried the Archon P1, RoF burn P2 strategy with no luck. With Force Weapon I have ~38k DMG which the guides say should easily do it, but I don't come close.

My best attempts (~35%) have been using this build I got comfortable with when surviving was more important in A2 than A1. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#acXROQ!dYX!aYabYY

Basically I don't get hit P1 between FA and Tele-Fracture/Illusionist and its a joke. P2 I burn as hard as I can before adds spawn and get him to about 50%. But then my options are either use Fracture to get close to Belial to damage him with AO (I usually die to fireball and melee before I have a chance to react somewhere along the line). My best attempts have been to just kite the adds and hope the hydra chips him, getting in damage when I can but somewhere along the line I get one shot.

Do I just need better stats or is there some build I'm missing for this? It's gotten to the point where I'm trying to buy a kill for the last of my gold just so I can farm A3.


Blizz/hydra is indeed way easier than AO/MM for Belial. I cleared i with 230ares 17k hp and 40k dps post-buff. similar to what you have. It isn't necessarily easy, you might have to die a few times before getting the hang of it. Stand in a corner and venom hydra+blizz+signature it up, p2 hardest part, kite like a madman and dodge all the things while not letting the spawns take over; I got 1-2hit by the poison projectiles. At phase 3, the giant arm slam attack will ohko you regardless of ares/hp.
Cheers
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 10:22:39
June 10 2012 10:17 GMT
#2375
On June 10 2012 18:58 iLLusive wrote:
Seeking any quality advice I can get on possibly better build or gear improvements. I have nearly 500k to spend currrently and just hitting my face on trying to kill stuff in Inferno difficulty. Thanks for the help folks


My current build:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#acXRSP!YXU!YYabZc

DPS and HP are ok (HP on the low side but workable). No force armor + terrible resists though? Pretty much asking for every white mob to oneshot you.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
June 10 2012 10:25 GMT
#2376
So I got 45k hp, 45k dps, 550+ resists and I'm still having a hard time progressing Act 3 (after Siegebreaker)...

What else can I do? I've spent almost 8 million in gear, and still I die often. I use MM/Blizz/Hydra build...

Or am I just bad at this game?
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
June 10 2012 10:36 GMT
#2377
On June 10 2012 19:25 trinxified wrote:
So I got 45k hp, 45k dps, 550+ resists and I'm still having a hard time progressing Act 3 (after Siegebreaker)...

What else can I do? I've spent almost 8 million in gear, and still I die often. I use MM/Blizz/Hydra build...

Or am I just bad at this game?


i run act 3 with 38k hp, 66k dps without magic weapon that seems to add 30% into dps thus inflating it, about 180 all resists.

my build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#cRXOSQ!YXU!YbaYZZ

only time i have problems is when theres some hard champion combo.
I got honor. - Johnny Business
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
June 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2378
You might be bad, you might have unrealistic expectations. Everyone dies a lot in inferno. Well, every wizard.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
June 10 2012 10:39 GMT
#2379
On June 10 2012 19:36 Ueberlisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 19:25 trinxified wrote:
So I got 45k hp, 45k dps, 550+ resists and I'm still having a hard time progressing Act 3 (after Siegebreaker)...

What else can I do? I've spent almost 8 million in gear, and still I die often. I use MM/Blizz/Hydra build...

Or am I just bad at this game?


i run act 3 with 38k hp, 66k dps without magic weapon that seems to add 30% into dps thus inflating it, about 180 all resists.

my build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#cRXOSQ!YXU!YbaYZZ

only time i have problems is when theres some hard champion combo.


You got ridiculous dps compared to me, since mine is with magic weapon already. Did I overspend on getting all resists, since it doesn't look like it's helping me?
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
June 10 2012 10:44 GMT
#2380
You should either get ~300res and run force armor, or go all-out to 600+ and run prismatic. In between there's very little benefit.
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