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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
June 08 2012 20:01 GMT
#2301
Ah thanks I was completely confused as to what item attack speed was, makes sense lol
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Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 21:08:09
June 08 2012 21:07 GMT
#2302
On June 09 2012 04:11 diophan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:54 Iranon wrote:
Okay, so I just spent most of my meager stash of dollaz on the AH regearing for Belial and beyond. Do I need a new weapon too? 36k life, 550ish res all, 2500 armor (4k with FA on), and 16k damage (22k with force weapon). I'm happy with the life and res, the armor is probably very low because it's not top-tier gear, but the damage seems way too low.
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All my gear came from searching the AH for unusually low prices on 110+ int, 65+ vit, and 45+ all res, and I think I did pretty well with that. One of my rings is still random jank I picked up in Hell somewhere, but I'm a little underwhelmed by my new stats. I'm using a 1005 dps 0.9 speed weapon with 232 int on it. I know I could get a 1200+ blue for cheap, but I figured the huge int bonus was worth it...

Where do I try and improve on a budget from here? I know ideally all my gear should be 200+ int 100+ vit and 80+ res all, but I can't afford that. Cutting all those stats in half cuts the prices of the items by an order of magnitude, so I just did that.


Assuming your attack speed is low, which I imagine it is based on how you described how you geared, grabbing a 15% IAS/60-80 int ring for 10k off the AH would be a good idea to replace your ring. The rings come from a vendor so you shouldn't pay more than 20k. Another good place to upgrade would be get gloves with IAS or crit if you don't already.

Your 232 int should be the equivalent of 150-180dps on your weapon so getting one that's a fair bit better will probably be pricey. I agree that your DPS is really low relative to the rest of your stats (except armor).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuCuIwwOof50dGpVRXhOYTZHNUJ3R1dWTmdNdS1TeWc#gid=1 seems to give correct numbers to you and can help you figure out the most efficient way to up your DPS.


Thanks, that's really helpful. Just picked up one of those rings, they're up to 17-18k now though. (They seem to have hit the price ceiling where it's just barely profitable to vendor them and resell.) I'll keep an eye out for better gloves -- if only you could search for 4-6 properties instead of 3...

For others who asked, I'm running 20 ap blizzard, venom hydra, 20 ap AO, diamond skin, force armor, and teleport (fracture). I'd like to swap one of those out for force weapon, but I really rely on blizzard to kite, I've finally gotten used to teleport, and not having AO would feel very strange, so I think I'm out of luck there.
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
June 08 2012 21:28 GMT
#2303
I progressed through Act 2 and now I'm in Act 3. It feels like my gear isn't good enough because it's taking a long time. Took like 2 hrs to do the first two quests. Had a rare ranged champion that killed me several times. I also run out of mana a lot and have lots of trouble killing elites, especially the ranged ones.

My stats are 1150 dps 2h 0.9 speed mace with 56% attack speed increase from gears. 32k hp, ~320 resists, 40k dps with glass cannon, 34.5k w/o, probably 3500 armor.

It feels like I'm taking too long to kill and take too much damage. Elite or champion ranged mobs can almost 1 hit me sometimes. Any tips for doing act 3?
Marines > everything
DnameIN
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland146 Posts
June 08 2012 21:55 GMT
#2304
Your DPS is way higher then mine when i entered act 3. I believe, mine was around 28k. Same thing with HP. I suggest getting more armor and all res if you feel that you die too much.

Im suprised, that you have problem with DPS. Maybe your build is not optimized? Are you using blizz/hydra/magic missile/arcane orb?

Anyway, if you are able to get to the siegebreaker quest, do so asap. Some areas are just real pain for us (and first quests in act 3 are one of them imo). Yestarday I had problems with passing Tower of the damned after siegebreaker. I believe it took me few hours to pass... 3 levels;P After that, everything started to go smoothly up to Diablo.
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
June 08 2012 22:01 GMT
#2305
I'm using 2H with hydra/orb, teleport, diamond skin, magic armor, magic weapon. I should probably start using Magic Missile because after a few nukes I'm out of mana. Problem is the 2H makes kiting a bit harder because it's so slow. Should I start using 1H + off-hand or stick to the 0.9 2H mace?
Marines > everything
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 22:03:12
June 08 2012 22:02 GMT
#2306
ive been stuck fighting Izual in nightmare, his rush attack gets me all the time, any tips?

i use DS, Venom Hydra, MI and energy armor
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
June 08 2012 22:11 GMT
#2307
On June 09 2012 07:02 keyStorm wrote:
ive been stuck fighting Izual in nightmare, his rush attack gets me all the time, any tips?

i use DS, Venom Hydra, MI and energy armor

Kite around the circles.
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
June 08 2012 22:12 GMT
#2308
On June 09 2012 07:02 keyStorm wrote:
ive been stuck fighting Izual in nightmare, his rush attack gets me all the time, any tips?

i use DS, Venom Hydra, MI and energy armor


Keep one of the gaps in the floor between him and you.
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
June 08 2012 22:25 GMT
#2309
On June 09 2012 06:07 Iranon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 04:11 diophan wrote:
On June 09 2012 03:54 Iranon wrote:
Okay, so I just spent most of my meager stash of dollaz on the AH regearing for Belial and beyond. Do I need a new weapon too? 36k life, 550ish res all, 2500 armor (4k with FA on), and 16k damage (22k with force weapon). I'm happy with the life and res, the armor is probably very low because it's not top-tier gear, but the damage seems way too low.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


All my gear came from searching the AH for unusually low prices on 110+ int, 65+ vit, and 45+ all res, and I think I did pretty well with that. One of my rings is still random jank I picked up in Hell somewhere, but I'm a little underwhelmed by my new stats. I'm using a 1005 dps 0.9 speed weapon with 232 int on it. I know I could get a 1200+ blue for cheap, but I figured the huge int bonus was worth it...

Where do I try and improve on a budget from here? I know ideally all my gear should be 200+ int 100+ vit and 80+ res all, but I can't afford that. Cutting all those stats in half cuts the prices of the items by an order of magnitude, so I just did that.


Assuming your attack speed is low, which I imagine it is based on how you described how you geared, grabbing a 15% IAS/60-80 int ring for 10k off the AH would be a good idea to replace your ring. The rings come from a vendor so you shouldn't pay more than 20k. Another good place to upgrade would be get gloves with IAS or crit if you don't already.

Your 232 int should be the equivalent of 150-180dps on your weapon so getting one that's a fair bit better will probably be pricey. I agree that your DPS is really low relative to the rest of your stats (except armor).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuCuIwwOof50dGpVRXhOYTZHNUJ3R1dWTmdNdS1TeWc#gid=1 seems to give correct numbers to you and can help you figure out the most efficient way to up your DPS.


Thanks, that's really helpful. Just picked up one of those rings, they're up to 17-18k now though. (They seem to have hit the price ceiling where it's just barely profitable to vendor them and resell.) I'll keep an eye out for better gloves -- if only you could search for 4-6 properties instead of 3...

For others who asked, I'm running 20 ap blizzard, venom hydra, 20 ap AO, diamond skin, force armor, and teleport (fracture). I'd like to swap one of those out for force weapon, but I really rely on blizzard to kite, I've finally gotten used to teleport, and not having AO would feel very strange, so I think I'm out of luck there.


You could try grabbing temporal flux and dropping blizzard--that's what many people here use.

On June 09 2012 06:28 vnlegend wrote:
I progressed through Act 2 and now I'm in Act 3. It feels like my gear isn't good enough because it's taking a long time. Took like 2 hrs to do the first two quests. Had a rare ranged champion that killed me several times. I also run out of mana a lot and have lots of trouble killing elites, especially the ranged ones.

My stats are 1150 dps 2h 0.9 speed mace with 56% attack speed increase from gears. 32k hp, ~320 resists, 40k dps with glass cannon, 34.5k w/o, probably 3500 armor.

It feels like I'm taking too long to kill and take too much damage. Elite or champion ranged mobs can almost 1 hit me sometimes. Any tips for doing act 3?


You have way too much attack speed for your build, IMO. Especially because you say you're out of mana frequently. If you're using AO/hydra you should have just enough IAS to kite properly and almost never be at full mana. Either pick up a signature as you mentioned or switch the IAS into crit/crit damage/more int. Your defensive stats aren't too bad... probably a bit better than what I used my first time through act 3. It was a slow going the first time through. Try to abuse small areas the enemies need to run through and keep them snared there.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
June 08 2012 22:39 GMT
#2310
On June 09 2012 06:55 DnameIN wrote:
Your DPS is way higher then mine when i entered act 3. I believe, mine was around 28k. Same thing with HP. I suggest getting more armor and all res if you feel that you die too much.

Im suprised, that you have problem with DPS. Maybe your build is not optimized? Are you using blizz/hydra/magic missile/arcane orb?

Anyway, if you are able to get to the siegebreaker quest, do so asap. Some areas are just real pain for us (and first quests in act 3 are one of them imo). Yestarday I had problems with passing Tower of the damned after siegebreaker. I believe it took me few hours to pass... 3 levels;P After that, everything started to go smoothly up to Diablo.


Out of interest how exactly do Opressors figure into that smooth sailing? I've been farming act 3 for a week now comfortably, but if i enter act 4 and meet opressors i know I'll die at least once for each of the shits (sometimes more often if they charge). Honestly after Soul rippers and Phasebeasts they are my most hated enemy...
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
June 08 2012 22:48 GMT
#2311
On June 09 2012 07:12 trifecta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 07:02 keyStorm wrote:
ive been stuck fighting Izual in nightmare, his rush attack gets me all the time, any tips?

i use DS, Venom Hydra, MI and energy armor


Keep one of the gaps in the floor between him and you.



ive done that and it worked quite well, now i feel my armor is too low for diablo
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
June 08 2012 23:33 GMT
#2312
now onto hell, any suggestion for builds?
Steedy
Profile Joined December 2010
20 Posts
June 08 2012 23:37 GMT
#2313
I was wondering if anyone has any good links for me to compare my gear to, say for instance of really well geared wizzies just to get an idea of how they itemise.

I have been using: http://trumps-equipment.blogspot.co.uk/ but was wondering if there was any more
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 00:13:23
June 08 2012 23:57 GMT
#2314
I'll post a screenshot of my gear later if you want. Probably not all the pieces unless someone asks. However, I'll just say I'm at 85k dps, 1.3 attack speed, 37% crit, 233% crit dmg, .9 weapon speed, like 1480? int, 32k hp, 5.4k armor, 400 resist all. Definitely prefer resist all and armor over vitality, but I'm pretty sure vitality is easier to stack in order to get 3 shot.

Also, phael, the guy who said he had 130k dps, it simply is not possible at a 20 mill budget. I've looked, and the gear you have to get up to that with reasonable resistances/armor/hp is probably 5 mill+ in each slot, and most likely 10-15 mill in amulets, rings, gloves, and weapon. Although who knows, maybe if I decided to get an andy's + attack speed bracers/boots it could work.
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 00:58:51
June 09 2012 00:56 GMT
#2315
On June 09 2012 08:57 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I'll post a screenshot of my gear later if you want. Probably not all the pieces unless someone asks. However, I'll just say I'm at 85k dps, 1.3 attack speed, 37% crit, 233% crit dmg, .9 weapon speed, like 1480? int, 32k hp, 5.4k armor, 400 resist all. Definitely prefer resist all and armor over vitality, but I'm pretty sure vitality is easier to stack in order to get 3 shot.

Also, phael, the guy who said he had 130k dps, it simply is not possible at a 20 mill budget. I've looked, and the gear you have to get up to that with reasonable resistances/armor/hp is probably 5 mill+ in each slot, and most likely 10-15 mill in amulets, rings, gloves, and weapon. Although who knows, maybe if I decided to get an andy's + attack speed bracers/boots it could work.


Why do people like Andariel's Visage so much? A socketed/int one is 8mil and only has 3% crit. I got my 140int/60 vit/6% crit/socket helm for 1.5mil. Otherwise the IAS seems not that great, especially with how much crit damage you have.

Also can I ask you why you decided to switch to a 2hander and what your thoughts are after switching? IIRC you use AO so you lose a fair bit of crit but get a lot more dmg/orb. I've been playing around with the idea of getting like +20 AP/crit on a 1hander and source and adding MM to my build and using obliteration instead of tap the source.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 01:09:38
June 09 2012 01:04 GMT
#2316
On June 09 2012 09:56 diophan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:57 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I'll post a screenshot of my gear later if you want. Probably not all the pieces unless someone asks. However, I'll just say I'm at 85k dps, 1.3 attack speed, 37% crit, 233% crit dmg, .9 weapon speed, like 1480? int, 32k hp, 5.4k armor, 400 resist all. Definitely prefer resist all and armor over vitality, but I'm pretty sure vitality is easier to stack in order to get 3 shot.

Also, phael, the guy who said he had 130k dps, it simply is not possible at a 20 mill budget. I've looked, and the gear you have to get up to that with reasonable resistances/armor/hp is probably 5 mill+ in each slot, and most likely 10-15 mill in amulets, rings, gloves, and weapon. Although who knows, maybe if I decided to get an andy's + attack speed bracers/boots it could work.


Why do people like Andariel's Visage so much? A socketed/int one is 8mil and only has 3% crit. I got my 140int/60 vit/6% crit/socket helm for 1.5mil. Otherwise the IAS seems not that great, especially with how much crit damage you have.

Also can I ask you why you decided to switch to a 2hander and what your thoughts are after switching? IIRC you use AO so you lose a fair bit of crit but get a lot more dmg/orb.

Yeah, I switched cause I saw a decent 2 hander (1400 dps, socket, slow 0.9 attack speed, vitality) for like 8 mill so I bought it and tried it out. At first it was difficult to get used to with a really slow attack speed of 1.15 and I'd die a lot more, but realized I was killing things faster because it was more damage per ap efficient. I also realized that that was the only way my DPS would get better, by stacking both crit and attack speed (which is expensive mind you), and if I did it with my 1 hander I'd just put myself above 2.00 which would just be too much.

As for andy's, I got it before with a 1 hander and it was pretty much pointless. Going above 1.4 is super preferential imo, but I don't think you'd really need that. In any case, for straight up DPS there's nothing better I think. Crit and attack speed just give too much damage at high end gear levels compared to int, and now I'm at a slow enough attack speed to where it's actually good for me. But I also have a high int/crit/ap on crit helm so that's why I'm reluctant to try. I might wait for inna's glory to get fixed and give that a shot as well since that's a lot of attack speed and crit I didn't have before.

I mean, maybe if you had infinite money you could go a slow 1 hander (1.2) with a ridiculous offhand and both would have godly stats meaning high crit, ap on crit, and high int/vitality with a lot of crit damage. But that's like 10 mill in the offhand alone.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
June 09 2012 02:04 GMT
#2317
So I'm planning to maximize movespeed... Which Legendaries should I aim for?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
June 09 2012 02:09 GMT
#2318
Lacuni prowlers, the flavor of time.
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FinalForm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
June 09 2012 02:16 GMT
#2319
How do I beat ACT III Heart of Sin Inferno? Dem phasebeasts packs. Any advice?
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
June 09 2012 02:39 GMT
#2320
On June 09 2012 11:09 Firebolt145 wrote:
Lacuni prowlers, the flavor of time.


Can't find lacunis with int/vit rolls on them...
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