On May 20 2012 08:16 Shikyo wrote: All right, time to start a full tank Witch Doctor that's based around vit weapon with high damage and using a high damage weapon along with Soul Harvest to supply sufficient energy.
Sound like an amazing plan? =O
good plan =D
I have a 53 witchdoctor in act 4 nightmare hardcore, got there only soloing (which i feel is actually safest way unless u have pro group, relying on pubbies is terribly risky at times).
Stacking vitality is amazing as witchdoctor because of his passive blood ritual (1% life regen per sec) and because you can rely on soul harvest for damage and do it safely with spirit walk. Later on though u need to be smart on knowing when ur suppose to save the cooldowns.
Witch Doctor died at level 40. Got chain frozen and took way too much damage in Act 2. Even my 3 seconds to run away when I took the killing blow didn't help. Oh well, now I can focus on school again.
We are act 4 hell now. Went pretty smooth actually, except for one internet hickup for our norwegian guys while standing in Desecration and escaping with 1000 life. ;-) And our monk hit 60 for the second time :D (first died on Belial). Guess that's a rare feat in hardcore mode so far.
I'm planning on playing a wizard for hardcore mode with the help of a few friends. Any advice on how to play the acts? Like when are you supposed to go back to farm to avoid getting killed? What party setup would be preferable?
- Play at your own chosen pace, but if you are unsure, rather take it slow - Stick together (!!!! this is everything if you are too weak) - Pull carefully, explore full rooms / areas and always have a 100% safe retreat path to a waypoint - Always try to have 2-3 sides fully explored / safe, so you do not get sandwiched - Any party with a monk ;D - Do not play a caster class (you are of course free to do it and they have great utility and can survive absolutely fine, but on average they die more often than the other classes) - Stack vita, vita, vita (and armor/resistances later of course) - Early on, Damage should only come from weapon and jewelry - Use a shield - Shop items from NPCs - I am act 1 inferno now and my gear is still 80% shopped - Level<>Content just as you feel it is right, it mainly depends on your gear. With my alts, I rush through normal without any safety or breaks.. Normally you should not be required to farm a lot before late nightmare, but you might want to get 60 in nightmare
On May 21 2012 15:16 Artrey wrote: - Play at your own chosen pace, but if you are unsure, rather take it slow - Stick together (!!!! this is everything if you are too weak) - Pull carefully, explore full rooms / areas and always have a 100% safe retreat path to a waypoint - Always try to have 2-3 sides fully explored / safe, so you do not get sandwiched - Any party with a monk ;D - Do not play a caster class (you are of course free to do it and they have great utility and can survive absolutely fine, but on average they die more often than the other classes) - Stack vita, vita, vita (and armor/resistances later of course) - Early on, Damage should only come from weapon and jewelry - Use a shield - Shop items from NPCs - I am act 1 inferno now and my gear is still 80% shopped - Level<>Content just as you feel it is right, it mainly depends on your gear. With my alts, I rush through normal without any safety or breaks.. Normally you should not be required to farm a lot before late nightmare, but you might want to get 60 in nightmare
I'm curious about this- you get better items from the shop than from the auction house?
Well, there is almost nobody farming items on hell yet except us.. and it is better to get two perfectly rolled affixes (namely vitality+dex/vita for me) than five bad ones. Of course rares CAN be better, but the chances are low and you do not get many tries. For shopping, you can just run it 200 times until you get closed to perfection. So to get started, shopping is THE way to go.
On May 21 2012 15:52 Artrey wrote: Well, there is almost nobody farming items on hell yet except us.. and it is better to get two perfectly rolled affixes (namely vitality+dex/vita for me) than five bad ones. Of course rares CAN be better, but the chances are low and you do not get many tries. For shopping, you can just run it 200 times until you get closed to perfection. So to get started, shopping is THE way to go.
Nice work! Inferno is going to be insane though. I just don't think it's really designed to be playable HC from what I've seen of it, but hopefully you guys can prove that wrong.
On May 21 2012 15:52 Artrey wrote: Well, there is almost nobody farming items on hell yet except us.. and it is better to get two perfectly rolled affixes (namely vitality+dex/vita for me) than five bad ones. Of course rares CAN be better, but the chances are low and you do not get many tries. For shopping, you can just run it 200 times until you get closed to perfection. So to get started, shopping is THE way to go.
On May 21 2012 15:52 Artrey wrote: Well, there is almost nobody farming items on hell yet except us.. and it is better to get two perfectly rolled affixes (namely vitality+dex/vita for me) than five bad ones. Of course rares CAN be better, but the chances are low and you do not get many tries. For shopping, you can just run it 200 times until you get closed to perfection. So to get started, shopping is THE way to go.
On May 19 2012 13:08 Medrea wrote: Oh yeah good point.
I dunno this shit is pretty hardcore if you ask me. Actual hardcore MODE inferno wont happen, ever.
When you softcore players finally come over to the hardcore side I'll be set to sell to you and make a killing.
Join the dark side.
Well, there is a 100 percent chance inferno is going to be nerfed. So yeah i suppose.
Nerfed??
I don't think so -- I was hoping they'd increase the difficulty, add more mobs, harder champions, etc., etc., because right now, the game is pretty much a-move for me and my friends right now.
On May 19 2012 13:08 Medrea wrote: Oh yeah good point.
I dunno this shit is pretty hardcore if you ask me. Actual hardcore MODE inferno wont happen, ever.
When you softcore players finally come over to the hardcore side I'll be set to sell to you and make a killing.
Join the dark side.
Well, there is a 100 percent chance inferno is going to be nerfed. So yeah i suppose.
Nerfed??
I don't think so -- I was hoping they'd increase the difficulty, add more mobs, harder champions, etc., etc., because right now, the game is pretty much a-move for me and my friends right now.
I highly doubt that, especially on act 2 inferno and beyond.
There is a reason champion packs were completely skipped in inferno win speed runs.
On May 21 2012 15:52 Artrey wrote: Well, there is almost nobody farming items on hell yet except us.. and it is better to get two perfectly rolled affixes (namely vitality+dex/vita for me) than five bad ones. Of course rares CAN be better, but the chances are low and you do not get many tries. For shopping, you can just run it 200 times until you get closed to perfection. So to get started, shopping is THE way to go.
Hey. I am actually the Demon Hunter. Dev (the monk) is using Tempest Rush as only spender (all other slots are used for utility/survival), because it allows him to get away when being trapped. While a spender with dmg would be nice, there is simply no slot left for it. Of course he could respec for certain bosses, but then you lose your nephalem valor buff. Same for me with chakram - for Diablo impale might have been the better choice. However the goal is to have a universal build that always works, as long as it is expected to be sufficient.
On May 19 2012 13:08 Medrea wrote: Oh yeah good point.
I dunno this shit is pretty hardcore if you ask me. Actual hardcore MODE inferno wont happen, ever.
When you softcore players finally come over to the hardcore side I'll be set to sell to you and make a killing.
Join the dark side.
Well, there is a 100 percent chance inferno is going to be nerfed. So yeah i suppose.
Nerfed??
I don't think so -- I was hoping they'd increase the difficulty, add more mobs, harder champions, etc., etc., because right now, the game is pretty much a-move for me and my friends right now.
Bullshit. People who are killing diablo on inferno are just skipping past rares and champions because it's absolutely retarded how stupid they are, you're forced to kite stuff around until things are separated, and tackle 1 or maybe 2 at a time, because taking on a full pack in act 2 and later just isn't an option if they don't have absolutely garbage affixes.
On May 19 2012 13:08 Medrea wrote: Oh yeah good point.
I dunno this shit is pretty hardcore if you ask me. Actual hardcore MODE inferno wont happen, ever.
When you softcore players finally come over to the hardcore side I'll be set to sell to you and make a killing.
Join the dark side.
Well, there is a 100 percent chance inferno is going to be nerfed. So yeah i suppose.
Nerfed??
I don't think so -- I was hoping they'd increase the difficulty, add more mobs, harder champions, etc., etc., because right now, the game is pretty much a-move for me and my friends right now.
Bullshit. People who are killing diablo on inferno are just skipping past rares and champions because it's absolutely retarded how stupid they are, you're forced to kite stuff around until things are separated, and tackle 1 or maybe 2 at a time, because taking on a full pack in act 2 and later just isn't an option if they don't have absolutely garbage affixes.
On May 19 2012 13:08 Medrea wrote: Oh yeah good point.
I dunno this shit is pretty hardcore if you ask me. Actual hardcore MODE inferno wont happen, ever.
When you softcore players finally come over to the hardcore side I'll be set to sell to you and make a killing.
Join the dark side.
Well, there is a 100 percent chance inferno is going to be nerfed. So yeah i suppose.
Nerfed??
I don't think so -- I was hoping they'd increase the difficulty, add more mobs, harder champions, etc., etc., because right now, the game is pretty much a-move for me and my friends right now.
Bullshit. People who are killing diablo on inferno are just skipping past rares and champions because it's absolutely retarded how stupid they are, you're forced to kite stuff around until things are separated, and tackle 1 or maybe 2 at a time, because taking on a full pack in act 2 and later just isn't an option if they don't have absolutely garbage affixes.
EPT
(you are of course free to do it and they have great utility and can survive absolutely fine, but on average they die more often than the other classes)
