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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On June 17 2012 15:03 EchelonTee wrote:
How do you guys deal with Reflect Damage mobs? Do you just skip them, or do you have a special technique / item set to deal with them?
I'm sitting at 8k hp 45k dps, so I die from like 6 of my own hits, lol.
get more hp. some form of lifeleech or life on hit is also helpful, but only to allow you to attack more often. 8k hp is too little margin for error.
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How does the fireball spell thing by diablo actually work? It's castes with random ranges which makes it difficult to get past phase 2. Sometimes he teleports or charges to me, and casts the spell at close range which kills me instantly.
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On June 17 2012 22:10 thoradycus wrote:
How does the fireball spell thing by diablo actually work? It's castes with random ranges which makes it difficult to get past phase 2. Sometimes he teleports or charges to me, and casts the spell at close range which kills me instantly.
Strafing left / right is a lot safer than trying to outrange it. I've actually Vaulted into one before rofl.
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Anyone can tell me why my 1009 dps bow says -1200 dps compared to the newly found 1039 xbow but when put into the slot the xbow does 4k dps less in the char sheet?
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I think you read value with sharpshooter charged, then switch gear witch reset sharpshooter and lower your damage.
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On June 17 2012 23:31 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
Anyone can tell me why my 1009 dps bow says -1200 dps compared to the newly found 1039 xbow but when put into the slot the xbow does 4k dps less in the char sheet?
What's your crit chance? Could be the Archery passive.
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oh yea, archery passive, so is a bow in the end better then xbow?
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On June 17 2012 23:55 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
oh yea, archery passive, so is a bow in the end better then xbow?
Depend. In general yes, a bow is always a lot better, but an xbow become comparable at about 30% crit chance. 2 Examples:
10% crit, +100% crit damage, X damage non-crit (agi*ias*basedam).
50% more crit damage give u 115% X damage (100+ 10*1,5)
15% more damage give u 1,15* 110% X damage = 1,265 X damage
30% crit, +100% crit damage, X dam
50% more crit damage give u 145% X damage
15% more damage give u 1,15*130% X damage = 149,5% X damage
40% crit, +100% crit damage, X dam
50% more crit = 160% X dam
15% more dam = 1,15 *140% X = 161% X dam
50% crit, +100% crit dam, X dam
50% more crit = 175% X dam
15% more dam = 1,15*150% = 172,5 % X dam
However u have to consider also that the Xbow passive gets worse the more u stack crit dam, whereas bow passive does not. Examples:
50% crit, +200% crit dam, X dam
Xbow = (1 + 0,5*2,5) = 225% X dam
Bow = (1 + 0,5*2) *1,15 = 230% X dam
So a bow is always better barring some extremely rare cases where u have extremely high crit chance and low crit dam.
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On June 17 2012 23:55 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
oh yea, archery passive, so is a bow in the end better then xbow?
From a pure paperdoll dps perspective 2 hand bow is better than xbow until you reach over 31-32% crit chance (exact number depends on crit damage you already have).
There are other factors that can't really be calculated though. Bows have a faster attack speed the Xbow, this means they hit for less in those "alpha" strike scenarios - especially with sharpshooter stacked to 100%. You can't really use the speed of the bow as effectively when kiting, shooting faster means more chance of causing enemies to "flinch". Try both and see which you prefer.
The speed also means you use but also generate hatred faster, if you take into account the normal hatred regen through items and the base regen, it favors slow weapons from a "pure" dps perspective.
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On June 17 2012 19:47 HeadHunterzzzz wrote:
iskatu... wottaaa fffff?? a good way to kill him?
EDIT: (inferno)
i used entangling shot with hatred rune, caltrops with damage rune, multishot with suppressing fire, and my standard ss/prep/vault/nt setup.
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On June 18 2012 00:21 Gheizen64 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 23:55 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
oh yea, archery passive, so is a bow in the end better then xbow? Depend. In general yes, a bow is always a lot better, but an xbow become comparable at about 30% crit chance. 2 Examples: 10% crit, +100% crit damage, X damage non-crit (agi*ias*basedam). 50% more crit damage give u 115% X damage (100+ 10*1,5) 15% more damage give u 1,15* 110% X damage = 1,265 X damage 30% crit, +100% crit damage, X dam 50% more crit damage give u 145% X damage 15% more damage give u 1,15*130% X damage = 149,5% X damage 40% crit, +100% crit damage, X dam 50% more crit = 160% X dam 15% more dam = 1,15 *140% X = 161% X dam 50% crit, +100% crit dam, X dam 50% more crit = 175% X dam 15% more dam = 1,15*150% = 172,5 % X dam However u have to consider also that the Xbow passive gets worse the more u stack crit dam, whereas bow passive does not. Examples: 50% crit, +200% crit dam, X dam Xbow = (1 + 0,5*2,5) = 225% X dam Bow = (1 + 0,5*2) *1,15 = 230% X dam So a bow is always better barring some extremely rare cases where u have extremely high crit chance and low crit dam.
Wait, so the Archery 15% buff only applies AFTER the crit multiplier?
The more I know *_______*
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On June 18 2012 00:35 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:21 Gheizen64 wrote:On June 17 2012 23:55 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
oh yea, archery passive, so is a bow in the end better then xbow? Depend. In general yes, a bow is always a lot better, but an xbow become comparable at about 30% crit chance. 2 Examples: 10% crit, +100% crit damage, X damage non-crit (agi*ias*basedam). 50% more crit damage give u 115% X damage (100+ 10*1,5) 15% more damage give u 1,15* 110% X damage = 1,265 X damage 30% crit, +100% crit damage, X dam 50% more crit damage give u 145% X damage 15% more damage give u 1,15*130% X damage = 149,5% X damage 40% crit, +100% crit damage, X dam 50% more crit = 160% X dam 15% more dam = 1,15 *140% X = 161% X dam 50% crit, +100% crit dam, X dam 50% more crit = 175% X dam 15% more dam = 1,15*150% = 172,5 % X dam However u have to consider also that the Xbow passive gets worse the more u stack crit dam, whereas bow passive does not. Examples: 50% crit, +200% crit dam, X dam Xbow = (1 + 0,5*2,5) = 225% X dam Bow = (1 + 0,5*2) *1,15 = 230% X dam So a bow is always better barring some extremely rare cases where u have extremely high crit chance and low crit dam. Wait, so the Archery 15% buff only applies AFTER the crit multiplier? The more I know *_______*
Before or after the results is the same. The difference is that a 50% crit increase is a 15% dam increase with a 30% base dam increase, but not TOTAL damage, only total damage BEFORE considering crits. Ias work the same, a 15% ias is a 15% dam increase, but BEFORE considering IAS bonuses. Both ias and crits are not multiplicative whereas Archery is. Dunno if i've been clear enough.
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Yesterday I saw a stream of a 117k dps DH using a grenade build. It was pretty interesting to see a DH tank while spamming grenades and not doing the standard kite and smokescreen spam
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Could someone show me a kick ass build? I'm currently on normal and planning going inferno, I would prefer a build that is reliable throughout all difficulty levels. Also, should I try to explore all the little corners of the map during my first normal playthrough or just play without the details?
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On June 18 2012 02:33 OneBaseKing wrote:
Could someone show me a kick ass build? I'm currently on normal and planning going inferno, I would prefer a build that is reliable throughout all difficulty levels. Also, should I try to explore all the little corners of the map during my first normal playthrough or just play without the details?
You can't use the same build throughout all difficulties because you won't unlock all the skills.
Most demon hunters in inferno use Hungering Arrow/Devouring rune. Elemental Arrow/ Nether Tentacles rune. Smokescreen/Lingering Fog rune. Preparation / rune choice varies. And the last two slots vary quite a lot. You can use Bat Companion. Vault. Caltrops. Rain of Vengeance. Evasive fire. Multishot. Ect....
As far as exploring, IMO through your first run through normal. Exploring is the way to go. Enjoy the game bro. You'll have lots of chances to run through the content, but only one shot at it fresh. Soak it in.
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On June 18 2012 02:50 Terranasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 02:33 OneBaseKing wrote:
Could someone show me a kick ass build? I'm currently on normal and planning going inferno, I would prefer a build that is reliable throughout all difficulty levels. Also, should I try to explore all the little corners of the map during my first normal playthrough or just play without the details? You can't use the same build throughout all difficulties because you won't unlock all the skills. Most demon hunters in inferno use Hungering Arrow/Devouring rune. Elemental Arrow/ Nether Tentacles rune. Smokescreen/Lingering Fog rune. Preparation / rune choice varies. And the last two slots vary quite a lot. You can use Bat Companion. Vault. Caltrops. Rain of Vengeance. Evasive fire. Multishot. Ect.... As far as exploring, IMO through your first run through normal. Exploring is the way to go. Enjoy the game bro. You'll have lots of chances to run through the content, but only one shot at it fresh. Soak it in.
Thanks! Also why can't I unlock all skills? Aren't they just level-unlocked, like if I cap at 60, are all my skills unlocked?
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On June 18 2012 02:56 OneBaseKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 02:50 Terranasaur wrote:On June 18 2012 02:33 OneBaseKing wrote:
Could someone show me a kick ass build? I'm currently on normal and planning going inferno, I would prefer a build that is reliable throughout all difficulty levels. Also, should I try to explore all the little corners of the map during my first normal playthrough or just play without the details? You can't use the same build throughout all difficulties because you won't unlock all the skills. Most demon hunters in inferno use Hungering Arrow/Devouring rune. Elemental Arrow/ Nether Tentacles rune. Smokescreen/Lingering Fog rune. Preparation / rune choice varies. And the last two slots vary quite a lot. You can use Bat Companion. Vault. Caltrops. Rain of Vengeance. Evasive fire. Multishot. Ect.... As far as exploring, IMO through your first run through normal. Exploring is the way to go. Enjoy the game bro. You'll have lots of chances to run through the content, but only one shot at it fresh. Soak it in. Thanks! Also why can't I unlock all skills? Aren't they just level-unlocked, like if I cap at 60, are all my skills unlocked?
Right. But at level 20, it's better to use something than nothing. You don't get Nether Tentacles (one of the best skills in the game) until 59. I used Chakram a lot while leveling. It's pretty spammable, has good range and dece damage.
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On June 18 2012 03:01 Terranasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 02:56 OneBaseKing wrote:On June 18 2012 02:50 Terranasaur wrote:On June 18 2012 02:33 OneBaseKing wrote:
Could someone show me a kick ass build? I'm currently on normal and planning going inferno, I would prefer a build that is reliable throughout all difficulty levels. Also, should I try to explore all the little corners of the map during my first normal playthrough or just play without the details? You can't use the same build throughout all difficulties because you won't unlock all the skills. Most demon hunters in inferno use Hungering Arrow/Devouring rune. Elemental Arrow/ Nether Tentacles rune. Smokescreen/Lingering Fog rune. Preparation / rune choice varies. And the last two slots vary quite a lot. You can use Bat Companion. Vault. Caltrops. Rain of Vengeance. Evasive fire. Multishot. Ect.... As far as exploring, IMO through your first run through normal. Exploring is the way to go. Enjoy the game bro. You'll have lots of chances to run through the content, but only one shot at it fresh. Soak it in. Thanks! Also why can't I unlock all skills? Aren't they just level-unlocked, like if I cap at 60, are all my skills unlocked? Right. But at level 20, it's better to use something than nothing. You don't get Nether Tentacles (one of the best skills in the game) until 59. I used Chakram a lot while leveling. It's pretty spammable, has good range and dece damage.
I see, thanks a lot sir
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Use whatever build you want, in normal. All combinations are possible in this difficulty. And as our friend said before, enjoy the game.
Personally i enjoyed A LOT my "shuriken build" with chakram skill in normal 
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