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ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
June 16 2012 13:02 GMT
#1561
Lacunis are never worth it. If your looking for damage 6% crit chance from a rare or blue absolutely dominates the attack speed from Lacunis.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
June 16 2012 13:21 GMT
#1562
On June 16 2012 22:02 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Lacunis are never worth it. If your looking for damage 6% crit chance from a rare or blue absolutely dominates the attack speed from Lacunis.


Agreed, even strongarm bracers with high dex and only 3% crit chance are better. Rare bracers go up to 6% crit chance afaik, and can roll high dex rolls. The only reason for Lacuni's would be for the move speed maybe.
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Sawofhackness
Profile Joined May 2011
Afghanistan183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 14:07:50
June 16 2012 13:50 GMT
#1563
Am comfortably getting quite a few rares now with 55kdps without SS on.

I've had my quiver for along time, ticks all the box's.. but I've noticed some quivers with plus 11% damage to hungering arrow (or elemental)

If I get this, do I get a plain 11% increase in damage? (obviously just using the hungering with pierce)

That's quite a good deal if it's the case.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 16 2012 14:23 GMT
#1564
On June 16 2012 22:50 Sawofhackness wrote:
Am comfortably getting quite a few rares now with 55kdps without SS on.

I've had my quiver for along time, ticks all the box's.. but I've noticed some quivers with plus 11% damage to hungering arrow (or elemental)

If I get this, do I get a plain 11% increase in damage? (obviously just using the hungering with pierce)

That's quite a good deal if it's the case.

I believe it is a 11% increase after all the other DPS multipliers and the skill multiplier.

Find it to be a good deal myself, have 2 quivers to alternate.
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 22:53:07
June 16 2012 22:40 GMT
#1565
What do you guys think i should spend my gold on ?

Here is my gear (clic to full size) :

[image loading]

And here are my stats :

[image loading]

Edited due to auction of amulet processed during me writing.


I tend to go +crit/+crit damage instead of +attack speed.
I dont realy like the armor/allres things, as i preffer to play a glasscannon build, avoiding everything i can, raging on the other things i cant avoid :p

i dont use sharshooter as i dont like it beeing reset everytime i do an action, and i dont like dps on the 1st second only.
So i use a nether/ss/prep build and try to avoid what i can.

I use steady aim, archery and tactical advantage (make avoiding ice shard, and running away from thing so much easier).


So my question : i was wondering what should i spend my gold on.
I think weapon is the answer since we can have pretty high crit damage in those, and i dont have any, and i have 30% crit chance.

The problem is socketed crossbow or with crit damage are awefuly expensive.
So how much dps should i search ? i currently have a ~1.1k dps one. is a 1k dps with ~50% crit dmg will be an upgrade to my gear that worth the price ?


Edited due to auction of amulet processed during me writing.
Edit 2 : to add more info, i'm mostly doing 5stack siegebreaker runs. i can also do belial but breaker is cooler and i tend to puke when i see acte 2
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 23:44:55
June 16 2012 23:19 GMT
#1566
If you actually do the math on weapons you'll notice that it's never worth getting crit damage on your weapon, almost no matter how high crit chance you has. Personally I don't think you need +Disc on your armor and I think you should get a 250+ Dex one instead (or maybe a Beacon Sail if you can't afford getting attack speed on your rings). Also, you forgot to post your boots.

Base damage, attack speed, crit damage, crit chance and dexterity all work together multiplicative (sort of) and you will, in most cases, get the most bang for your buck if you work on improving your worst factor. For you, this is your attack speed while crit damage is your strongest and the one you'd get the least from improving.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
June 17 2012 05:45 GMT
#1567
Looking forward to upgrade my chest piece, stats are about 34% AS, 20% crit, 124% crit dmg. should i go for a upgrade for AS with a beckon sail/lacuni , or go for a natalya's chest piece? also, i've noticed there's a legendary chest called the inquisitor with move speed stats, is that thing worth it to consider? my budget is around 5 mil.
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
June 17 2012 06:03 GMT
#1568
I've been swapping out some of my attack speed gear with crit chance/dmg ones and my DPS seems to be around the same. I've swapped out andariels and beckon's sail now and thinking about lacuni's now.. although the movespeed is really useful
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 17 2012 06:03 GMT
#1569
How do you guys deal with Reflect Damage mobs? Do you just skip them, or do you have a special technique / item set to deal with them?

I'm sitting at 8k hp 45k dps, so I die from like 6 of my own hits, lol.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 17 2012 06:20 GMT
#1570
On June 17 2012 15:03 EchelonTee wrote:
How do you guys deal with Reflect Damage mobs? Do you just skip them, or do you have a special technique / item set to deal with them?

I'm sitting at 8k hp 45k dps, so I die from like 6 of my own hits, lol.


What I do is pop a couple shots while SSed, run around til 14 discipline, and then repeat. It works, but it's kinda slow, so I usually just skip.
TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
June 17 2012 06:32 GMT
#1571
On June 17 2012 15:03 EchelonTee wrote:
How do you guys deal with Reflect Damage mobs? Do you just skip them, or do you have a special technique / item set to deal with them?

I'm sitting at 8k hp 45k dps, so I die from like 6 of my own hits, lol.


with nether, I launch a short 2 second burst of nether and right as it hits the reflect damage mob, I SS. I've seen people use impale + ss to do the same thing essentially (ss + 3 impales, repeat)
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thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
June 17 2012 06:43 GMT
#1572
For me it depends whether the mobs are kit able or not...if they are, then I fire 1-2 nether shots and time my SS. If I'm close, I SS and do it 3 times. If they are fast, and no room to kite, I'll just skip/reset.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 07:27:28
June 17 2012 07:25 GMT
#1573
On June 17 2012 15:03 EchelonTee wrote:
How do you guys deal with Reflect Damage mobs? Do you just skip them, or do you have a special technique / item set to deal with them?

I'm sitting at 8k hp 45k dps, so I die from like 6 of my own hits, lol.

my solution: dont run around in the later acts of inferno with 8k hp. if you do that, dont complain that stuff kills you.



On June 17 2012 07:40 zeross wrote:
What do you guys think i should spend my gold on ?

Here is my gear (clic to full size) :

[image loading]

And here are my stats :

[image loading]

Edited due to auction of amulet processed during me writing.


I tend to go +crit/+crit damage instead of +attack speed.
I dont realy like the armor/allres things, as i preffer to play a glasscannon build, avoiding everything i can, raging on the other things i cant avoid :p

i dont use sharshooter as i dont like it beeing reset everytime i do an action, and i dont like dps on the 1st second only.
So i use a nether/ss/prep build and try to avoid what i can.

I use steady aim, archery and tactical advantage (make avoiding ice shard, and running away from thing so much easier).


So my question : i was wondering what should i spend my gold on.
I think weapon is the answer since we can have pretty high crit damage in those, and i dont have any, and i have 30% crit chance.

The problem is socketed crossbow or with crit damage are awefuly expensive.
So how much dps should i search ? i currently have a ~1.1k dps one. is a 1k dps with ~50% crit dmg will be an upgrade to my gear that worth the price ?


Edited due to auction of amulet processed during me writing.
Edit 2 : to add more info, i'm mostly doing 5stack siegebreaker runs. i can also do belial but breaker is cooler and i tend to puke when i see acte 2




just get a bow with 1k-1.05k dps and an open socket. that way, you can get the equivalent dps of a 1150-1200 dps crossbow with 10-30% more crit dam (-50 for losing the archery crossbow bonus, + 60-80 from emerald in the socket. ~1.2k effective dps by multiplying the 1050 base dam with the 15% bonus you get from archery if using a bow.)

such bows can be obtained for about 2-3 mil. can be a blue one if it must.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 09:29:46
June 17 2012 08:01 GMT
#1574
On June 17 2012 16:25 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 15:03 EchelonTee wrote:
How do you guys deal with Reflect Damage mobs? Do you just skip them, or do you have a special technique / item set to deal with them?

I'm sitting at 8k hp 45k dps, so I die from like 6 of my own hits, lol.

my solution: dont run around in the later acts of inferno with 8k hp. if you do that, dont complain that stuff kills you.



Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 07:40 zeross wrote:
What do you guys think i should spend my gold on ?

Here is my gear (clic to full size) :

[image loading]

And here are my stats :

[image loading]

Edited due to auction of amulet processed during me writing.


I tend to go +crit/+crit damage instead of +attack speed.
I dont realy like the armor/allres things, as i preffer to play a glasscannon build, avoiding everything i can, raging on the other things i cant avoid :p

i dont use sharshooter as i dont like it beeing reset everytime i do an action, and i dont like dps on the 1st second only.
So i use a nether/ss/prep build and try to avoid what i can.

I use steady aim, archery and tactical advantage (make avoiding ice shard, and running away from thing so much easier).


So my question : i was wondering what should i spend my gold on.
I think weapon is the answer since we can have pretty high crit damage in those, and i dont have any, and i have 30% crit chance.

The problem is socketed crossbow or with crit damage are awefuly expensive.
So how much dps should i search ? i currently have a ~1.1k dps one. is a 1k dps with ~50% crit dmg will be an upgrade to my gear that worth the price ?


Edited due to auction of amulet processed during me writing.
Edit 2 : to add more info, i'm mostly doing 5stack siegebreaker runs. i can also do belial but breaker is cooler and i tend to puke when i see acte 2




just get a bow with 1k-1.05k dps and an open socket. that way, you can get the equivalent dps of a 1150-1200 dps crossbow with 10-30% more crit dam (-50 for losing the archery crossbow bonus, + 60-80 from emerald in the socket. ~1.2k effective dps by multiplying the 1050 base dam with the 15% bonus you get from archery if using a bow.)

such bows can be obtained for about 2-3 mil. can be a blue one if it must.



Thanks for the answers guys.
Since you two told me completely different answer its kinda hard to choose. but i never though of using a bow instead of a crossbow but yeah i can see how with a star gemme i can get more dps cheaper.

For Zerg-Legend : discipline is my only survivability in acte3 as i have shitty hp and resist. basicly when i'm out of disc and preparation is on cooldown (does this rune proc only when we dont realy need it to ?) it mean i'll probably die in a very short time.

As for my boots, here they are :
[image loading]

I know i could get some %mvt speed on them but i dont feel like i realy need it for siegebreaker run, as there is no so much fast attack to dodge, and tactical advantage already give me so much speed its hard to control :p



Edit : ended up buying a 1k dps bow at around 1.2m with a socket that had already a decent gem, crafted it one more time to have a star emerald and it ended up beiing a ~2k dps upgrade.
so i am now at ~40k dps and wonder how the hell i'll go higher than than, i think every upgrade will now be 8m+

can we effectively resist with a big health pool/armor/all res ? is the huuuuuuge cost of this useful ? because i dont realy see the difference between beiing one shoted or 2-shoted, as you can only put one potion then everything is on CD and you die, or run for your life wich i dont like.

the thing that prevented me for going @res and stuff is that its not effective until you have like a lot, so the first buy will end up deiing useless at the begining :/ and i didnt have that much money to begin with
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 17 2012 10:09 GMT
#1575
how the fuck is izual managable, sometimes he does the ice shit that kills u instantly right at the beginning of his retarded speech...dead, sometimes he does it when he ends the speech, if u dont see him u dont hear shit to even prepare for it ( dont ve his life bar visible than either) is this the most retarded luck based fight ever or what...fuckin useless youtube videos just show pre nerf shit etc...god i am so fuckin angry i wanna punch someone
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musai
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada552 Posts
June 17 2012 10:22 GMT
#1576
On June 17 2012 19:09 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
how the fuck is izual managable, sometimes he does the ice shit that kills u instantly right at the beginning of his retarded speech...dead, sometimes he does it when he ends the speech, if u dont see him u dont hear shit to even prepare for it ( dont ve his life bar visible than either) is this the most retarded luck based fight ever or what...fuckin useless youtube videos just show pre nerf shit etc...god i am so fuckin angry i wanna punch someone


He does his ice things at 66% and 33%, you just have to be really fucking ready when he's at those points, and pray his yell isn't off. And yea the pre-nerf videos are pretty frustrating, either SS spam or Tyrael standing in his way lol.
HeadHunterzzzz
Profile Joined June 2012
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 15:13:44
June 17 2012 10:47 GMT
#1577
iskatu... wottaaa fffff?? a good way to kill him?

EDIT: (inferno)
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 11:13:06
June 17 2012 11:07 GMT
#1578
That IAS change (if the notes are real) is going to make my tears flow long and hard

Such a massive change, not just statistically but just how the character will play. Feels so odd and slow to kite when i lower my IAS down to what it will be after nerf.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
June 17 2012 11:19 GMT
#1579
On June 17 2012 19:47 HeadHunterzzzz wrote:
iskatu... wottaaa fffff?? a good way to kill him?

I used frost arrows to take out the black things and slow them down(along wth iskatu)..and then used impale with chmical burn to get shots off on him..he went down after that. Just need to keep running/vaulting.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 17 2012 11:53 GMT
#1580
anyone on europe kind enough to kill diablo for me, i wanna deinstall the game so badly, i hate this game so much ...
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