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Duskbane
Profile Joined August 2010
United States178 Posts
June 06 2012 19:49 GMT
#1181
On June 06 2012 23:23 starfries wrote:
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On June 06 2012 22:41 Duskbane wrote:
On June 06 2012 22:35 Perguvious wrote:
I was stuck on inferno act 3 keep level 2 for the better part of 4 days. Soul rippers rip my soul, not to mention there are usually 4-5 blue/yellow mobs before the exit. I luckily rolled into a run where I kited 3 blue mobs that had alright properties, and then smoke screen/vaulted all the way past mobs of monsters/soul ripper elites/soul ripper. I probably died about 30 times and it took around 70 minutes to get from the entrance of level 2 to the entrance of level 3. 60khp 200resist 3k armor


I've got 23k hp and 300-400 resist.. I think you should try and up your resists a bit at the cost of vitality, they are really better for defense maybe you can even take one hit from a ripper if you get more resist!

Can you tank a soul ripper hit with those stats?

It took me ridiculously long to clear the keep as well. And the tower levels are even worse.

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On June 06 2012 23:10 oneofthem wrote:
just shoot arrows all over the place when you are moving and ss when you see a soul ripper.

If they decide to wander around a bit, then you can SS in time. But if a soul ripper really wants to kill you, you just die.



Erm... no. I can't. But if I had even 50k hp and the same resists I probably could ^_^
PYLOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
June 06 2012 20:00 GMT
#1182
I'm thinking of rerolling a dh just to use as my farmer because they seem to be pretty damn good at killing things. How much do you think it would cost to gear him up to easily solo act 4 inferno? Could you do it for under 20m?
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
June 06 2012 20:04 GMT
#1183
On June 07 2012 05:00 blizzind wrote:
I'm thinking of rerolling a dh just to use as my farmer because they seem to be pretty damn good at killing things. How much do you think it would cost to gear him up to easily solo act 4 inferno? Could you do it for under 20m?



http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/515/gearq.jpg/

This guy soloed inferno act 4 easily, check what gear with this stats cost on the ah and you are good to go.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 06 2012 20:26 GMT
#1184
That would depend on what you want to farm. If you're just going to do aspects then you can do it as soon as you hit 60. Maybe buy a weapon first, but you can get a budget one for maybe 50k. Aspects are a joke in terms of difficulty ^_^

Anything else will likely require a substantial investment on your part.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 22:02:59
June 06 2012 22:00 GMT
#1185
On June 07 2012 01:19 CTStalker wrote:
SS lasts for 1 second lol. You might get 1.5 - 2 attacks off


Mortars/frozen/arcane though!

edit: To clarify, if I'm standing back while my duo partner/templar are tanking and spamming nether, I want to be able to keep firing without killing my survivability due to mortars and other long-animation attacks.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
subzer0
Profile Joined August 2011
67 Posts
June 06 2012 22:09 GMT
#1186
I'm in hell now and getting owned terribly...4 invulnerable/molten/freezing frog dudes...impossible.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 06 2012 22:15 GMT
#1187
On June 07 2012 07:09 subzer0 wrote:
I'm in hell now and getting owned terribly...4 invulnerable/molten/freezing frog dudes...impossible.


Invulnerable can be pretty impossible, especially when they're fast monsters. Best thing you can do is reload unless you want to suicide a few times to finish em off. Demon Hunters have it pretty easy since Tentacles (lightning ball) will hit the boss guy
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
subzer0
Profile Joined August 2011
67 Posts
June 06 2012 22:19 GMT
#1188
On June 07 2012 07:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
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On June 07 2012 07:09 subzer0 wrote:
I'm in hell now and getting owned terribly...4 invulnerable/molten/freezing frog dudes...impossible.


Invulnerable can be pretty impossible, especially when they're fast monsters. Best thing you can do is reload unless you want to suicide a few times to finish em off. Demon Hunters have it pretty easy since Tentacles (lightning ball) will hit the boss guy


Will do, thanks for the heads up. Those frog dude enemies are absolutely terrible to kill for me.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
June 06 2012 22:33 GMT
#1189
On June 06 2012 09:29 starfries wrote:
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On June 06 2012 07:06 SagaZ wrote:
I got 14k hp, 2,5k armor and like 100 resists 1332 dexterity and around 20k damage without sharpshooter.
My bow is like 690 dps, go ti tin the action house for like 50k. Nothing i bought from the action house costed over 50k... and i always searched for things like dexterity, crit damage, attk speed... never looked at vitality or resists.. so yeah i geared cheaply for the maximum damage i could afford, act 1 was painless exept from butcher.. i mean i can kill the guy but it takes me like 10-12 trys. Act 2 is horrible, every elite i came across had reflect damage and the god damn dudes that shoot mini mortars and jump at you from off the map to one shot you are so anoying.
i guess I'll try to break some jars till i get enought to survive 1 hit

break jars?

Anyways, I would just get good twitch reflexes on smokescreen, because you're going to need it later on. Trying to gear for survivability while maintaining dps is pretty expensive and you can get pretty far with just good reflexes and high dps. I would pick up a quiver and/or cloak with +max discipline though, it makes a pretty big difference. For the butcher, you can swap in something with vit and/or physical resist just to tank those chains, because he's super easy once you can take that hit.

I finally had the time to start on actual act 2 runs (maghda/kulle) instead of exploitative siegebreaker runs, and find act 2 to be extremely easy with a high HP/high resist/relatively low DPS build. I run about 35k HP, 500 resist and 24-25k DPS. There's no oneshots, no unlucky deaths and no smoke screen. Vault is so much more fun.

Which is just to say, there's more than one way to play act 2, and builds with more survivability offer options beyond the usual SS + nuke gameplay, which I still use for siegebreaker runs. The total amount of gold I've invested in this set is probably 300-400k in addition to my DPS set, but I'm enjoying it so much more.

My advice to people stuck in act 1 would be to invest in dex/vit/all resist gear over more DPS oriented stats (such as attack speed). It's both cheaper and will do the job more effictively in act 2. There's changes coming to inferno in a couple of weeks, and nuke-die- run gameplay is going to take a hit.
Duskbane
Profile Joined August 2010
United States178 Posts
June 06 2012 22:41 GMT
#1190
On June 07 2012 05:00 blizzind wrote:
I'm thinking of rerolling a dh just to use as my farmer because they seem to be pretty damn good at killing things. How much do you think it would cost to gear him up to easily solo act 4 inferno? Could you do it for under 20m?

As much as it'd cost to buy a 1200+ dps 2h crossbow with crit damage and a socket. The rest of the gear can just have some dex and attack speed thrown in and you'll do fine.
PYLOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
June 06 2012 22:42 GMT
#1191
Whew, all I really need now is a better bow, gloves, and boots, then I'll consider my DH finished. 90k DPS without sharpshooter.
http://i.imgur.com/apiTO.jpg
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 23:10:46
June 06 2012 23:10 GMT
#1192
Can't really be a "finished" character if you have 0 passive MF. Upper tier DH roll around Inferno with 200 MF gear on all the time.

Head doesnt even have a socket >.>
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
June 06 2012 23:13 GMT
#1193
On June 07 2012 07:42 superbabosheki wrote:
Whew, all I really need now is a better bow, gloves, and boots, then I'll consider my DH finished. 90k DPS without sharpshooter.
http://i.imgur.com/apiTO.jpg


How the hell did you get all of that gear :S

I got a super lucky drop that sold for 7mil and still can't afford Andariel's, let alone Beckon Sail and a 1300 DPS Xbow.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 06 2012 23:16 GMT
#1194
The Xbow is just raw damage. No dex and no socket. Its not very good and not very expensive either (relatively). Thats why he mentioned he needs a better one.

Also consider that nuke/die comps are getting an adjustment.
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RLTY
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States965 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 23:17:45
June 06 2012 23:17 GMT
#1195
How do you guys feel about the IAS nerf that's coming up? I feel like a lot of us are gonna lose out on a good portion of our DPS
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 06 2012 23:18 GMT
#1196
Hard to say considering it hasnt been said how its going to be implemented and to what degree.
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Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 23:28:03
June 06 2012 23:27 GMT
#1197
On June 07 2012 08:10 Medrea wrote:
Can't really be a "finished" character if you have 0 passive MF. Upper tier DH roll around Inferno with 200 MF gear on all the time.

Head doesnt even have a socket >.>

I press one button with autohotkey to get instant 250 mf lol. No need for a socket on helm when you will die in one hit neways >.>

On June 07 2012 08:17 RLTY wrote:
How do you guys feel about the IAS nerf that's coming up? I feel like a lot of us are gonna lose out on a good portion of our DPS

I don't think the nerf will be too bad, it's probably going to just give IAS diminishing returns so you can still have a pretty high amount. I would focus on crit chance a bit more to make up for any loss IAS.
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
June 07 2012 00:00 GMT
#1198
On June 07 2012 07:42 superbabosheki wrote:
Whew, all I really need now is a better bow, gloves, and boots, then I'll consider my DH finished. 90k DPS without sharpshooter.
http://i.imgur.com/apiTO.jpg


How much did those bracers cost? And how can you survive without movement speed? O_o

I run around with like 80k dps and 14k health, so a bit curious how you can afford all that dps and vitality on items ><
I speak fluent sarcasm.
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
June 07 2012 00:10 GMT
#1199
On June 07 2012 05:00 blizzind wrote:
I'm thinking of rerolling a dh just to use as my farmer because they seem to be pretty damn good at killing things. How much do you think it would cost to gear him up to easily solo act 4 inferno? Could you do it for under 20m?


Just did this, got tired of slogging through act2 inferno on monk. I'm at lvl 52 now, gonna take about half the gear off my monk, and the other half I found or was given by a wizard friend that has been farming act3 inferno.

I enjoy the monk much more, but you can't beat the faceroll dps of the DH, it is just so much easier and faster (so far). With the gear I have lying around I'll probably hit 80k dps without sharpshooter.

It is simply the best farming class in the game right now.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 07 2012 00:26 GMT
#1200
On June 07 2012 08:27 superbabosheki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 08:10 Medrea wrote:
Can't really be a "finished" character if you have 0 passive MF. Upper tier DH roll around Inferno with 200 MF gear on all the time.

Head doesnt even have a socket >.>

I press one button with autohotkey to get instant 250 mf lol. No need for a socket on helm when you will die in one hit neways >.>

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 08:17 RLTY wrote:
How do you guys feel about the IAS nerf that's coming up? I feel like a lot of us are gonna lose out on a good portion of our DPS

I don't think the nerf will be too bad, it's probably going to just give IAS diminishing returns so you can still have a pretty high amount. I would focus on crit chance a bit more to make up for any loss IAS.


You swap gear for every white mob your about to kill?

Magic find affects all enemies. Theres no reason not to stack MF when your already playing a class capable of killing everything on screen.

At like 225 MF white mobs start dropping rares like candy.
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