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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
June 06 2012 14:23 GMT
#1161
On June 06 2012 22:41 Duskbane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 22:35 Perguvious wrote:
I was stuck on inferno act 3 keep level 2 for the better part of 4 days. Soul rippers rip my soul, not to mention there are usually 4-5 blue/yellow mobs before the exit. I luckily rolled into a run where I kited 3 blue mobs that had alright properties, and then smoke screen/vaulted all the way past mobs of monsters/soul ripper elites/soul ripper. I probably died about 30 times and it took around 70 minutes to get from the entrance of level 2 to the entrance of level 3. 60khp 200resist 3k armor


I've got 23k hp and 300-400 resist.. I think you should try and up your resists a bit at the cost of vitality, they are really better for defense maybe you can even take one hit from a ripper if you get more resist!

Can you tank a soul ripper hit with those stats?

It took me ridiculously long to clear the keep as well. And the tower levels are even worse.

On June 06 2012 23:10 oneofthem wrote:
just shoot arrows all over the place when you are moving and ss when you see a soul ripper.

If they decide to wander around a bit, then you can SS in time. But if a soul ripper really wants to kill you, you just die.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Ko1tz
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 14:26:17
June 06 2012 14:26 GMT
#1162
Anybody knows if there's any way to predict that frost nova Izual does? I'm constantly getting one shotted by that thing. I have been trying to ss at random; but most of the time it won't work (what a shock)

Also, thanks Tyrael for hitting the adds instead of the boss when he had 1% HP
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
June 06 2012 14:35 GMT
#1163
for soul rippers, ss before you go around corners, scope it out. if you see them run back around the corner and throw caltrops, then fire at angles if possible or reveal yourself for instant. the keep wasn't hard, but you can't expect the same killing speed as everywhere else -- you have to be slow, cautious and thorough
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
June 06 2012 14:36 GMT
#1164
On June 06 2012 23:26 Ko1tz wrote:
Anybody knows if there's any way to predict that frost nova Izual does? I'm constantly getting one shotted by that thing. I have been trying to ss at random; but most of the time it won't work (what a shock)

Also, thanks Tyrael for hitting the adds instead of the boss when he had 1% HP

I think it's health triggered.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 06 2012 14:38 GMT
#1165
On June 06 2012 23:36 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 23:26 Ko1tz wrote:
Anybody knows if there's any way to predict that frost nova Izual does? I'm constantly getting one shotted by that thing. I have been trying to ss at random; but most of the time it won't work (what a shock)

Also, thanks Tyrael for hitting the adds instead of the boss when he had 1% HP

I think it's health triggered.

yep he does it when he gets to a certain health
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Ko1tz
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France493 Posts
June 06 2012 14:42 GMT
#1166
On June 06 2012 23:38 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 23:36 starfries wrote:
On June 06 2012 23:26 Ko1tz wrote:
Anybody knows if there's any way to predict that frost nova Izual does? I'm constantly getting one shotted by that thing. I have been trying to ss at random; but most of the time it won't work (what a shock)

Also, thanks Tyrael for hitting the adds instead of the boss when he had 1% HP

I think it's health triggered.

yep he does it when he gets to a certain health

That was my guess aswell, I would say he does (roughly) every 25%? Dunno really, guess I'll just have to check his healthbar more carefully.

Thanks!
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 06 2012 15:22 GMT
#1167
On June 06 2012 23:38 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 23:36 starfries wrote:
On June 06 2012 23:26 Ko1tz wrote:
Anybody knows if there's any way to predict that frost nova Izual does? I'm constantly getting one shotted by that thing. I have been trying to ss at random; but most of the time it won't work (what a shock)

Also, thanks Tyrael for hitting the adds instead of the boss when he had 1% HP

I think it's health triggered.

yep he does it when he gets to a certain health

he does it at 66% and 33% and if youre in visible range with him he will even shout before that. However the time between shout and blast is randomly between like .1s and 1s.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 06 2012 15:37 GMT
#1168
On June 07 2012 00:22 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 23:38 Blasterion wrote:
On June 06 2012 23:36 starfries wrote:
On June 06 2012 23:26 Ko1tz wrote:
Anybody knows if there's any way to predict that frost nova Izual does? I'm constantly getting one shotted by that thing. I have been trying to ss at random; but most of the time it won't work (what a shock)

Also, thanks Tyrael for hitting the adds instead of the boss when he had 1% HP

I think it's health triggered.

yep he does it when he gets to a certain health

he does it at 66% and 33% and if youre in visible range with him he will even shout before that. However the time between shout and blast is randomly between like .1s and 1s.

Yes this is accurate, but for some reason I have had him double freeze before 33% which was pretty shitty.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 06 2012 16:15 GMT
#1169
"Easy fix for Demon Hunter - Smokescreen breaks invisible when you attack."
Jesus christ, BNet forums, I just remembered why I don't read you.

If this fix were to ever happen, I'd uninstall Diablo 3.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 06 2012 16:16 GMT
#1170
On June 07 2012 01:15 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
"Easy fix for Demon Hunter - Smokescreen breaks invisible when you attack."
Jesus christ, BNet forums, I just remembered why I don't read you.

If this fix were to ever happen, I'd uninstall Diablo 3.


I barely ever attack while SS is up, since I'm busy using my meager amount of time to buy distance to work with.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
June 06 2012 16:19 GMT
#1171
SS lasts for 1 second lol. You might get 1.5 - 2 attacks off
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
June 06 2012 17:02 GMT
#1172
On June 07 2012 01:15 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
"Easy fix for Demon Hunter - Smokescreen breaks invisible when you attack."
Jesus christ, BNet forums, I just remembered why I don't read you.

If this fix were to ever happen, I'd uninstall Diablo 3.

I'd actually like this, it feels weird using it to facetank things while trying to dps them down before you die. I'd rather have Shadow Power in that role and have Smokescreen be for escape only.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
June 06 2012 18:21 GMT
#1173
On June 07 2012 02:02 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 01:15 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
"Easy fix for Demon Hunter - Smokescreen breaks invisible when you attack."
Jesus christ, BNet forums, I just remembered why I don't read you.

If this fix were to ever happen, I'd uninstall Diablo 3.

I'd actually like this, it feels weird using it to facetank things while trying to dps them down before you die. I'd rather have Shadow Power in that role and have Smokescreen be for escape only.


Unless you are using vitality/resistance gear instead of going squishy DPS, I think you'd still get one shotted even with Shadow Power up(by Act 2/3/4 mobs, at least). Smoke Screen is our only real, reliable "oh shit I'm about to get raped" button.

Also, I don't really use it to face-tank unless I know I can kill the mob in 1 second. Normally I use it to force the mob to attack the templar and gain some distance so I can kite more with caltrops, but sometimes that mortar IS going to nail you, and you're gonna get one shotted.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
June 06 2012 18:33 GMT
#1174
fun fact: ur pets will crit 100% when you have 100% crit with ss (like running around not shooting, the pets will crit every single hits). Dunno if anyone has posted this yet I was screwing around in hell and found out this.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
June 06 2012 18:38 GMT
#1175
On June 07 2012 03:21 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 02:02 starfries wrote:
On June 07 2012 01:15 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
"Easy fix for Demon Hunter - Smokescreen breaks invisible when you attack."
Jesus christ, BNet forums, I just remembered why I don't read you.

If this fix were to ever happen, I'd uninstall Diablo 3.

I'd actually like this, it feels weird using it to facetank things while trying to dps them down before you die. I'd rather have Shadow Power in that role and have Smokescreen be for escape only.


Unless you are using vitality/resistance gear instead of going squishy DPS, I think you'd still get one shotted even with Shadow Power up(by Act 2/3/4 mobs, at least). Smoke Screen is our only real, reliable "oh shit I'm about to get raped" button.

Also, I don't really use it to face-tank unless I know I can kill the mob in 1 second. Normally I use it to force the mob to attack the templar and gain some distance so I can kite more with caltrops, but sometimes that mortar IS going to nail you, and you're gonna get one shotted.

Yeah, those are ways that it should be used. Making distance, or blocking damage. I didn't say you shouldn't use it. I'm talking about the people who chain SS and spam NT at an elite, kill one, die, and do it again.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Serendipityx
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States595 Posts
June 06 2012 18:39 GMT
#1176
how do you deal with the shadow clones in inferno diablo and whats a good dps to be at to try and kill him. I'm currently at 94k right now with sharpshooter. Probably around 40k without.
coopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States144 Posts
June 06 2012 18:40 GMT
#1177
On June 07 2012 03:39 ChaosTriggeR wrote:
how do you deal with the shadow clones in inferno diablo and whats a good dps to be at to try and kill him. I'm currently at 94k right now with sharpshooter. Probably around 40k without.


Ive seen some demon hunters use rain of vengeance with the stun and just burst them down with ss and tentacles
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
June 06 2012 19:31 GMT
#1178
On June 07 2012 03:38 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 03:21 Mondeezy wrote:
On June 07 2012 02:02 starfries wrote:
On June 07 2012 01:15 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
"Easy fix for Demon Hunter - Smokescreen breaks invisible when you attack."
Jesus christ, BNet forums, I just remembered why I don't read you.

If this fix were to ever happen, I'd uninstall Diablo 3.

I'd actually like this, it feels weird using it to facetank things while trying to dps them down before you die. I'd rather have Shadow Power in that role and have Smokescreen be for escape only.


Unless you are using vitality/resistance gear instead of going squishy DPS, I think you'd still get one shotted even with Shadow Power up(by Act 2/3/4 mobs, at least). Smoke Screen is our only real, reliable "oh shit I'm about to get raped" button.

Also, I don't really use it to face-tank unless I know I can kill the mob in 1 second. Normally I use it to force the mob to attack the templar and gain some distance so I can kite more with caltrops, but sometimes that mortar IS going to nail you, and you're gonna get one shotted.

Yeah, those are ways that it should be used. Making distance, or blocking damage. I didn't say you shouldn't use it. I'm talking about the people who chain SS and spam NT at an elite, kill one, die, and do it again.


It'd still be game breaking for DH's in their current state because a large % of the time the DH is going to fire an attack or land a hit whether you want them to or not (especially since ss is instant and doesn't interrupt).

This would also further break/ruin rapid shot and strafe which, while useless anyways, are at least hypothetically usable when in ss.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 06 2012 19:41 GMT
#1179
On June 06 2012 09:57 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Decided to finally get around to trying out cold damage on a weapon so I bought a 856 dps bow for 50k - and discovered that it worked just as well as my old 1145 dps crossbow. Mindblown. Slow is really awesome and I think Cull of the Weak is superior to Sharshooter.



How does this work? Does the cold slow enemies you are hitting with nether tentacles? I bought a budget 946 dps xbow at 50k. I've been browsing the AH from time to time for xbows around the 50k-100k range and noticed that you can get around 950 dps around that price range. Ones with a socket or cold damage usually have around 5% less dps.

Are they worth it?
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
June 06 2012 19:44 GMT
#1180
On June 06 2012 23:23 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 22:41 Duskbane wrote:
On June 06 2012 22:35 Perguvious wrote:
I was stuck on inferno act 3 keep level 2 for the better part of 4 days. Soul rippers rip my soul, not to mention there are usually 4-5 blue/yellow mobs before the exit. I luckily rolled into a run where I kited 3 blue mobs that had alright properties, and then smoke screen/vaulted all the way past mobs of monsters/soul ripper elites/soul ripper. I probably died about 30 times and it took around 70 minutes to get from the entrance of level 2 to the entrance of level 3. 60khp 200resist 3k armor


I've got 23k hp and 300-400 resist.. I think you should try and up your resists a bit at the cost of vitality, they are really better for defense maybe you can even take one hit from a ripper if you get more resist!

Can you tank a soul ripper hit with those stats?

It took me ridiculously long to clear the keep as well. And the tower levels are even worse.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 23:10 oneofthem wrote:
just shoot arrows all over the place when you are moving and ss when you see a soul ripper.

If they decide to wander around a bit, then you can SS in time. But if a soul ripper really wants to kill you, you just die.


A little while back I was running with 35k hp 300 all res...still got 1 shot by almost every white mob in act 3. Full glass cannon is better in every way unless you got about 50 mil to blow on perfect gear.
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