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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#fRYdXV!cYe!bZbbZa the pros are no missile travel, and mostly no aiming, As long as the target is within the cover fire's 45 degree angle it will hit, The 1 extra hate gen is nice, and the Kick back sometimes is quite useful to not get surrounded. | ||
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Kisra
United Kingdom466 Posts
On June 02 2012 23:05 Blasterion wrote: Just curious what is everyone's opinion on using evasive fire as a Hate Gen over the all popular everyone uses it Hungering Arrow. he current build I am running is http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#fRYdXV!cYe!bZbbZa the pros are no missile travel, and mostly no aiming, As long as the target is within the cover fire's 45 degree angle it will hit, The 1 extra hate gen is nice, and the Kick back sometimes is quite useful to not get surrounded. I used it up until Inferno. The problem with it is if you get stuck in a corner, it'll burn through all your Discipline in no time at all which leaves you vulnerable. While the evasion can be extremely strong (really handy against, say, Diablo), putting a hard-to-control drain on your most valuble resource makes it hard to use. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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TooL
Canada275 Posts
you have to decide on that balance yourself based on your play style and such. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 03 2012 02:32 thoradycus wrote: I have some gear that allows me to have 47 disp which I can use ss 4 times with rune. Is it worth here 2-4k dmg I'll lose? I currently have 28-29k dmg without sharpshooter. Having SS 4 times with the cost reduction rune is useless. 3 SS's with Lingering Fog = 4.5 second uptime and only needs +7 Discipline. 4 SS's with Special Recipe = 4 second uptime and needs like +12 Discipline. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
Also when I was using it heavily lag made it feel like I could still die anytime the backflip was going to proc. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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Teddyman
Finland362 Posts
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#aRXdSl!YeT!YcZbcb 36k DPS before Sharpshooter (66k after), 39k HP, resists around 380-470, 3800 armor, 38 discipline I'm trying to make a balanced and reasonably survivable build. It's probably far from the best build but could become one if Blizzard gives a much needed 2nd nerf to Smoke Screen. The idea is to use terrain to stack the 3 traps together in a doorway or near a wall. This way you get a 825% weapon damage AOE attack with one button press. Stampede will let you push monsters back and trap the same place repeatedly. Vault and Smoke Screen should keep you alive until you get your Stampede cooldown ready, and Nether Tentacles is there for general clearing in open spaces. The survivability thing will work out with more gear. Right now I can survive a hit in early act 3 on inferno and many weaker hits even in act 4, such as Corrupted Angel charge. Act 2 is quite easy to farm doing 5 stack Kulle/Belial runs. Obviously it's worse for loot that random chest/goblin exploiting or aspect farming etc but at least it's fun. You could do this with a glass cannon build too, maybe to take screenshots of 500k trap crits or something. I've done everything on inferno with this build except Diablo, who would be doable too but not nearly as fast as a specialized build. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On June 02 2012 23:05 Blasterion wrote: Just curious what is everyone's opinion on using evasive fire as a Hate Gen over the all popular everyone uses it Hungering Arrow. he current build I am running is http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#fRYdXV!cYe!bZbbZa the pros are no missile travel, and mostly no aiming, As long as the target is within the cover fire's 45 degree angle it will hit, The 1 extra hate gen is nice, and the Kick back sometimes is quite useful to not get surrounded. I tried it out for a bit when I first got it and then in inferno. I want to like it because it looks so kickass but it just didn't seem that good. I really hate that it spends your discipline because the 15 meter backflip is almost useless and I get much better mileage out of every other disc skill. I would rather it didn't backflip me at all. And the much larger range of Hungering and the ability for it to hit around corners actually makes it a much safer skill than Evasive Fire, regardless of dps. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On June 03 2012 03:24 starfries wrote: I tried it out for a bit when I first got it and then in inferno. I want to like it because it looks so kickass but it just didn't seem that good. I really hate that it spends your discipline because the 15 meter backflip is almost useless and I get much better mileage out of every other disc skill. I would rather it didn't backflip me at all. And the much larger range of Hungering and the ability for it to hit around corners actually makes it a much safer skill than Evasive Fire, regardless of dps. That's how I feel too, It makes me sad that there is really no way out of Hungering Arrow, just like how there is no way out of Elemental arrow either. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On June 03 2012 03:45 Blasterion wrote: That's how I feel too, It makes me sad that there is really no way out of Hungering Arrow, just like how there is no way out of Elemental arrow either. I think entangling shot is viable if you have a bit of hatred regen and don't need to spam it for hatred, but the other generators are meh. I really hope they rebalance all the other skills to make them useful - I'd love to use a cluster arrow build but for now the only less standard setup I've found usable is a trap build. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On June 03 2012 03:58 starfries wrote: I think entangling shot is viable if you have a bit of hatred regen and don't need to spam it for hatred, but the other generators are meh. I really hope they rebalance all the other skills to make them useful - I'd love to use a cluster arrow build but for now the only less standard setup I've found usable is a trap build. Grenades are close to being really good with high attack speed, but they have some weird scaling/proccing issues and being locked into the animation is a death sentence. Bola would be good if the damage was higher, but it's less single target dps than hungering. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On June 03 2012 04:11 Logo wrote: Grenades are close to being really good with high attack speed, but they have some weird scaling/proccing issues and being locked into the animation is a death sentence. Bola would be good if the damage was higher, but it's less single target dps than hungering. Grenades for me just feels funny, the pathing and delay simply makes it unsuitable for my play style | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On June 03 2012 03:45 Blasterion wrote: That's how I feel too, It makes me sad that there is really no way out of Hungering Arrow, just like how there is no way out of Elemental arrow either. I went through Inferno with Entangling Shot over Hungering Arrow. | ||
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HQuality
2682 Posts
On June 03 2012 04:26 ZAiNs wrote: I went through Inferno with Entangling Shot over Hungering Arrow. i stucked at some point of act III w/ hungering, but then switched to entangling (except diablo himself, hungering is better on him obv) and finished the game ^_^ entangling + tentacles is pretty OP Evasive with covering fire is VERY good tbh, if u have room to kite. 125% x3 absolutely stable dps, instant shot animation (can't miss at all) | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On June 03 2012 04:45 HQuality wrote: i stucked at some point of act III w/ hungering, but then switched to entangling (except diablo himself) and finished the game ^_^ entangling + tentacles is pretty OP Evasive with covering fire is VERY good tbh, if u have room to kite. 125% x3 absolutely stable dps, instant shot animation (can't miss at all) But the 3 can't hit the same target, can they? I don't know, the range is just SO short for me, you can't outrange any ranged abilities/attacks. I guess that doesn't matter against melee, but honestly you can use anything on melee and it will work. It's not really possible to miss with hungering arrow either, because of the seeker effect. I find it actually easier to stutter step with hungering than evasive, because I can just shift-click hungering in the general direction of stuff while it actually IS possible to miss with evasive in that case. edit: I guess you can't miss with the covering fire rune but I usually used the backflip or even the explosion rune | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8L2Wk.jpg) Yay! In terms of bosses: Belial > Shadow Diablo > Rakanoth. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On June 03 2012 03:01 Teddyman wrote: I'm trying to make a balanced and reasonably survivable build. It's probably far from the best build but could become one if Blizzard gives a much needed 2nd nerf to Smoke Screen whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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