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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 28 2012 14:28 GMT
#681
The difference in bow/xbow/1hxbow isn't that great just use whatever you have access to with the highest dps. Personally I like 1h crossbow + shield so I can take that random 1 hit that some how manages to slip through.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
May 28 2012 14:35 GMT
#682
On May 28 2012 22:57 kanada wrote:
I am through act 1 inferno, Have been using a 1H crossbow and quiver the whole time. Am I a fool? doing about 2.65 attacks per second. only 45k dps with sharpshooter.

i much prefer 2h crossbow, but it's really all about which one does more damage for you - if your 1h does more damage, use it
Maggost
Profile Joined August 2011
Venezuela296 Posts
May 28 2012 14:39 GMT
#683
I am running 1 xbow + shield in hell mode, i think it works like 15% better and give you some chance to survive against those 1 shot kills...

I am still trying to beat diablo with a party of 4 persons but it's imposible, im getting killed in the part where the clones appears.

HP: 15760
Damage: 5556
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LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
May 28 2012 14:47 GMT
#684
On May 28 2012 23:39 Maggost wrote:
I am running 1 xbow + shield in hell mode, i think it works like 15% better and give you some chance to survive against those 1 shot kills...

I am still trying to beat diablo with a party of 4 persons but it's imposible, im getting killed in the part where the clones appears.

HP: 15760
Damage: 5556

swap to a xbow with higher dps, get a quiver, spec for smoke screen, prep, elemental arrow (with nether)

pop smoke screen as soon as the clone pops and blow it up
spacemonkey4eve
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 15:51:58
May 28 2012 15:50 GMT
#685
So I finally grew a pair and started going through act 2 inferno, and surprisingly isn't too bad except for the few invuln/fast/mortar elites. I manage to keep 5 stacks of NV and the loot I have gotten so far is many times better quality than butcher/aspect runs. Learning how to kite/peel elites off/SS + discipline management will help you get through those elites, even if some of them you have to die several times. I think at one point an elite pack made me wait 30 seconds to res T.T

Best drop I've gotten so far is tal rashas chest w/ dex + vit :D

have 35k dps w/o sharpshooter, 28k hp, 100 resists. Took devouring arrow + nether w/ nightstalker passive
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
May 28 2012 15:52 GMT
#686
On May 28 2012 22:28 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 21:11 ilbh wrote:
any DH having success farming inferno act 2?

by success I mean not getting one shot and being able to kill all champions and elite mobs.

I can easilly farm act 1, but for act 2 my gear is just terrible lol

so, I'm curious to know how are you guys gearing for act 2 and beyond.

thanks!


Having the same problem. Act 1 so easy, but act 2 I can't kill any reflect or invulnerable minion packs. It makes things very tedious. I have 35k dps and about 26k hp almost no resists. Act 1 doesn't seem worth farming and act 2 seems very inefficient right now. I'm getting a bit sick of it.


I have 19k DPS and 21k HP... it sucks hard. there is a cave in act 2 that I could farm the first level, but second one was impossible...

one thing I was thinking about is to stack physical resist since most deads I was getting were from physical attacks, but I'm not sure if it would help...
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
May 28 2012 15:55 GMT
#687
On May 29 2012 00:52 ilbh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 22:28 Crushinator wrote:
On May 28 2012 21:11 ilbh wrote:
any DH having success farming inferno act 2?

by success I mean not getting one shot and being able to kill all champions and elite mobs.

I can easilly farm act 1, but for act 2 my gear is just terrible lol

so, I'm curious to know how are you guys gearing for act 2 and beyond.

thanks!


Having the same problem. Act 1 so easy, but act 2 I can't kill any reflect or invulnerable minion packs. It makes things very tedious. I have 35k dps and about 26k hp almost no resists. Act 1 doesn't seem worth farming and act 2 seems very inefficient right now. I'm getting a bit sick of it.


I have 19k DPS and 21k HP... it sucks hard. there is a cave in act 2 that I could farm the first level, but second one was impossible...

one thing I was thinking about is to stack physical resist since most deads I was getting were from physical attacks, but I'm not sure if it would help...

don't.. go full damage.. get +attack speed or +crit damage on everything you can, i also found +12% run speed on boots is super nice

and get a good weapon
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
May 28 2012 16:00 GMT
#688
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eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
May 28 2012 16:11 GMT
#689
On May 29 2012 01:00 Sated wrote:
Since nobody answered...

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On May 28 2012 03:45 Sated wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#aRYgXV!ceY!bbZZZb

I've been using this and having pretty good success with it. Not having an AoE attack doesn't seem to be a big deal because because enemies have a tendency to form straight lines when you kite them (perfect for Elemental Arrow) and because you have such high crowd-control ability. The only problem I have is with elite mobs, but I think that's more down to ridiculous modifiers than my character.

Any suggestions on making this more solid for Hell/Inferno? I don't have gear that's any good yet (I only hit for 2.5k DPS, with ~20k health), but I'm not having any problems running around Act 1 of Hell thus far.



Afaik, Screaming Skull is one of the less popular elemental arrow runes. Most people are either using Nether Tentacles for the insane dps, or Frozen Arrow if you want the snare. In hell and inferno, lifesteal is significantly reduced, 80% in inferno and I believe 60% in hell, so if you're using shadow power, it will do much more to keep you alive if you use Gloom instead of Blood Moon. Other than those two things, it seems pretty solid, although it does seem a bit odd to have both SS and Shadow Power in there, just because they fill such similar roles as discipline spenders.

Just for preference, I prefer sharpshooter to culling the weak as a dps passive, but obviously that's a call that depends a lot on your playstyle, as well as the weapon you're using and its archery bonus.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
Therg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden238 Posts
May 28 2012 16:15 GMT
#690
Gonna buy a new weapon and I have a question. What is more efficient; getting a ~1200 dps xbow or a ~1070 dps xbow with a socket (emerald ofc). Crit is about 30% for atm. My budget is around 5 mill.
BentoBox
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada303 Posts
May 28 2012 16:56 GMT
#691
I used screaming skull in nightmare and it was SO GOOD. Because all mobs, elites included, would run away from me. But when I reached Hell, I stopped working altogether against elites and I haven't even considered it for Inferno... I imagine it would be too op...
Only dead fish swim with the stream
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
May 28 2012 18:01 GMT
#692
Just a quick question for the more elite than me: How do you guys deal with super fast mobs? Caltrops doesn't slow them at all it seems, and I just get pummeled, even using Smoke Screen at the right times. I either die alot to the same pack, or I run in/out of the dungeon I'm in.... The Smoke Screen nerf is really hurting me.
Flaf?
kanada
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada255 Posts
May 28 2012 18:43 GMT
#693
On May 29 2012 03:01 Jamial wrote:
Just a quick question for the more elite than me: How do you guys deal with super fast mobs? Caltrops doesn't slow them at all it seems, and I just get pummeled, even using Smoke Screen at the right times. I either die alot to the same pack, or I run in/out of the dungeon I'm in.... The Smoke Screen nerf is really hurting me.


sounds like you are dealing with them like I am, dying alot. When it comes to fast mobs in inferno I am pretty much toast. You can try and bottleneck them that is my plan usually. If i get them on a stairway and can place bomb traps 3 stacked up they do massive damage.
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 19:15:32
May 28 2012 19:04 GMT
#694
i am officially cock blocked halfway into act 3 inferno. i can barely do the bridge to siege breaker, but after that i wanna kill myself.

i have no fucking idea what to do. i feel like gimping my damage for 500+ resists isn't going to help anything.

Here is a picture of my IAS build. 271+ resists, 51k hp, 44k dps without sharpshooter. I have a few upgrades sitting in my stash that will put my dps to 50k but the IAS on them are bugged and unusable until blizzard fixes it.

(that's a 1232 dps bow with 25% IAS btw)

i'm going to try a finding a good 1h / shield & numbing traps i guess...
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
May 28 2012 19:14 GMT
#695
i've put everything into DPS/dex crit for my demon hunter. I found that it was useless to try to tank one or two hits.

Sure, mitigating death by one hit helps, but it's better to kill faster than dragging it out. You shouldn't even be hit once in inferno because dH cant tank. At least, in the current version. Having more vit/defence doesn't help much because if you get hit, you're probably dead anyways later on for example fast elites.

I have not explored vit/def with resistance yet, so maybe dH has that possible route to tank a couple of shots. I found a lot of resistance base gears in act4 inferno for some reason... maybe blizz is trying to tell me something.

But anyways, I found the crossbow most effective. Attack speed limits me to being stationary, more prone to missile/range attacks and less damage.

With high damage and slower attack, I can deal a lot of damage but still be able to perform evasive maneuvers.

I'm using cluster arrows to get the most damage as possible in a short amount of time. I took up vegeance as a passive so I can shoot 3 cluster arrows in one go. i do almost 250k in 4 secs with sharpshooter and archery.

my skills vary from solo to parties but some skills that are staples are vault, smokescreen, rain of vegeance stun. rain of vegeance doesn't cost any hatred and can stun elites. it's free damage. for my primary, i usually go entangling shot or hungering depending on my party.
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kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
May 28 2012 19:16 GMT
#696
On May 29 2012 04:04 klops wrote:
i am officially cock blocked halfway into act 3 inferno. i can barely do the bridge to siege breaker, but after that i wanna kill myself.

i have no fucking idea what to do. i feel like gimping my damage for 500+ resists isn't going to help anything.

Here is a picture of my IAS build. 271+ resists, 51k hp, 44k dps without sharpshooter. I have a few upgrades sitting in my stash that will put my dps to 50k but the IAS on them are bugged and unusable until blizzard fixes it.

(that's a 1232 dps bow with 25% IAS btw)


Your gear has 250 more resist, 30k more health and 7k less damage than what I used to clear the game with.
This is a player issue and not a gear issue.

Just keep trying til you get better at kiting/avoiding damage, because that's really where the key is.
I speak fluent sarcasm.
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 19:39:25
May 28 2012 19:35 GMT
#697
On May 29 2012 04:16 kaztah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 04:04 klops wrote:
i am officially cock blocked halfway into act 3 inferno. i can barely do the bridge to siege breaker, but after that i wanna kill myself.

i have no fucking idea what to do. i feel like gimping my damage for 500+ resists isn't going to help anything.

Here is a picture of my IAS build. 271+ resists, 51k hp, 44k dps without sharpshooter. I have a few upgrades sitting in my stash that will put my dps to 50k but the IAS on them are bugged and unusable until blizzard fixes it.

(that's a 1232 dps bow with 25% IAS btw)


Your gear has 250 more resist, 30k more health and 7k less damage than what I used to clear the game with.
This is a player issue and not a gear issue.

Just keep trying til you get better at kiting/avoiding damage, because that's really where the key is.


i have killed every boss in act 4 besides diablo (never tried) with a friend's waypoint. clearing the game is not the issue. i take zero damage from izual and the rest of diablos brigade. farming elites is the issue and the only thing i care about.

pardon my french but, "no shit"

edit - i guess i should have been more specific in my post.
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
May 28 2012 19:39 GMT
#698
On May 29 2012 04:35 klops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 04:16 kaztah wrote:
On May 29 2012 04:04 klops wrote:
i am officially cock blocked halfway into act 3 inferno. i can barely do the bridge to siege breaker, but after that i wanna kill myself.

i have no fucking idea what to do. i feel like gimping my damage for 500+ resists isn't going to help anything.

Here is a picture of my IAS build. 271+ resists, 51k hp, 44k dps without sharpshooter. I have a few upgrades sitting in my stash that will put my dps to 50k but the IAS on them are bugged and unusable until blizzard fixes it.

(that's a 1232 dps bow with 25% IAS btw)


Your gear has 250 more resist, 30k more health and 7k less damage than what I used to clear the game with.
This is a player issue and not a gear issue.

Just keep trying til you get better at kiting/avoiding damage, because that's really where the key is.


i have killed every boss in act 4 besides diablo (never tried) with a friend's waypoint. clearing the game is not the issue. i take zero damage from izual and the rest of diablos brigade. farming elites is the issue and the only thing i care about.

pardon my french but, "no shit"


You're really not reading his response in the sense that it should be read. He CLEARED the game (SOLO - Incl elite packs) without a friend's waypoints. He is telling you to learn to kite ELITE MOBS (NOT BOSSES) better, and avoid taking damage.
Flaf?
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
May 28 2012 19:44 GMT
#699
On May 29 2012 04:39 Jamial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 04:35 klops wrote:
On May 29 2012 04:16 kaztah wrote:
On May 29 2012 04:04 klops wrote:
i am officially cock blocked halfway into act 3 inferno. i can barely do the bridge to siege breaker, but after that i wanna kill myself.

i have no fucking idea what to do. i feel like gimping my damage for 500+ resists isn't going to help anything.

Here is a picture of my IAS build. 271+ resists, 51k hp, 44k dps without sharpshooter. I have a few upgrades sitting in my stash that will put my dps to 50k but the IAS on them are bugged and unusable until blizzard fixes it.

(that's a 1232 dps bow with 25% IAS btw)


Your gear has 250 more resist, 30k more health and 7k less damage than what I used to clear the game with.
This is a player issue and not a gear issue.

Just keep trying til you get better at kiting/avoiding damage, because that's really where the key is.


i have killed every boss in act 4 besides diablo (never tried) with a friend's waypoint. clearing the game is not the issue. i take zero damage from izual and the rest of diablos brigade. farming elites is the issue and the only thing i care about.

pardon my french but, "no shit"


You're really not reading his response in the sense that it should be read. He CLEARED the game (SOLO - Incl elite packs) without a friend's waypoints. He is telling you to learn to kite ELITE MOBS (NOT BOSSES) better, and avoid taking damage.


i must be playing this very hard to play game wrong. i'll go practice my orb walking in dota before i try playing again.

take his gear and try fighting an elite licker pack in act 3 with 4 affixes. let me know how it goes.
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 19:45:56
May 28 2012 19:45 GMT
#700
On May 29 2012 04:35 klops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 04:16 kaztah wrote:
On May 29 2012 04:04 klops wrote:
i am officially cock blocked halfway into act 3 inferno. i can barely do the bridge to siege breaker, but after that i wanna kill myself.

i have no fucking idea what to do. i feel like gimping my damage for 500+ resists isn't going to help anything.

Here is a picture of my IAS build. 271+ resists, 51k hp, 44k dps without sharpshooter. I have a few upgrades sitting in my stash that will put my dps to 50k but the IAS on them are bugged and unusable until blizzard fixes it.

(that's a 1232 dps bow with 25% IAS btw)


Your gear has 250 more resist, 30k more health and 7k less damage than what I used to clear the game with.
This is a player issue and not a gear issue.

Just keep trying til you get better at kiting/avoiding damage, because that's really where the key is.


i have killed every boss in act 4 besides diablo (never tried) with a friend's waypoint. clearing the game is not the issue. i take zero damage from izual and the rest of diablos brigade. farming elites is the issue and the only thing i care about.

pardon my french but, "no shit"

edit - i guess i should have been more specific in my post.


Of course you take no damage from izual, because any damage means you're dead. That's how the class works, and it just shows that my concept of kiting/avoiding damage rings true.
It's not like there's anything different from that on elite packs, and my point is still true. Your gear is good enough to clear almost anything, and 500 resist wont make up for your failure at avoiding things that can be avoided.

Funnily enough, the lickers in act 3 is probably the hardest mobs in the entire game.
I speak fluent sarcasm.
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