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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 18:46:22
May 27 2012 18:45 GMT
#641
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 27 2012 18:46 GMT
#642
On May 28 2012 02:27 Zudimi wrote:
Anyone some tipps how to survive belial phase 1 and 2? Im pretty much oneshot by the adds

Personally I broke down and used a 1h xbow + shield so it took 2 hits to kill me from the snakes. Get to a corner then spray and pray, in the corner you only aggro one side of the room making it easier to deal with. Phase 2 just go SS spam and burn him asap. Phase 3 is just a joke with nether tents
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
May 27 2012 18:55 GMT
#643
On May 28 2012 02:08 poor newb wrote:
wheres the safest place to farm in act 3 or 4?

Not the safest but once you have the dps to do azmo runs(and the mini boss before him), you can make some really good money.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 27 2012 19:38 GMT
#644
The bridge before siegebreaker is good for DH you get 5nv and then rape siegebreaker who drops really good.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
May 27 2012 20:02 GMT
#645
On May 28 2012 04:38 NotSorry wrote:
The bridge before siegebreaker is good for DH you get 5nv and then rape siegebreaker who drops really good.

do you clear the place before that, or just run straight to the bridge? those heralds of pestilence' - i hate them.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
May 27 2012 21:06 GMT
#646
On May 28 2012 02:08 poor newb wrote:
wheres the safest place to farm in act 3 or 4?


A lot of people are farming the Aspects in Act 4. Get the checkpoint for right before Diablo and then take the waypoint previous and kill the NPC that transforms into a purple mob. Use Evasive Fire + Covering Fire to shoot through the teleporting pillar and kite it in circles. Most people skip the Marius spawn because it has a shit ton of health. Illusions. and is ranged.

I'm personally farming the demon ambush in Act 3 between the signal fire and raising catapult quest. I've gotten two 1100 and a 1200 dps weapon so far from drops. There's occasionally an elite pack that spawns for an extra challenge and loot. I've also seen a Treasure Imp twice now.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 21:24:51
May 27 2012 21:15 GMT
#647
On May 27 2012 02:38 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 01:35 klops wrote:
On May 27 2012 00:36 FliedLice wrote:
On May 26 2012 23:48 klops wrote:
On May 26 2012 02:42 superbabosheki wrote:
On May 26 2012 02:00 Hardigan wrote:
what do you think about "magic find" items with lvl 60?
-how many % would be acceptable?
-are you comfortable sacrificing some dps/vit for it?
-does "magic find" also count for rare (yellow) items or only for magic (blue)?
-if i would have an acceptable amount of it, should i shoot every barrel/destructible object or does this attribute only count for enemys?

MF is pretty overrated once you realize it's mechanics. I've ran with 185 mf and it really doesn't make too much of a difference. With 200 mf, a monster has a 0.1% chance to drop a rare, that increases to 0.3%. If it has a 0.001% chance to drop a legendary, it would increase to 0.003%. For bosses, nephalem valor is all you need to get the crazy drops, mf has very little effect on them. 5 stacks of valor would be better than 200 mf, and if they are stacked, the difference is still negligible.

Inferno is pretty ezpz once you gear up, I have no troubles at all.Once I find a good helm/ring/belt, I'll finally be satisfied with my DH and start a wizard! [image loading]


why did you even bother cutting out your crit chance when its obvious you're using sharpshooter?


even with sharpshooter 100k is pretty high


maybe if he was using a bow i'd be impressed.


It's pretty hard to take the ss seriously, he has 170% extra crit damage and 100% crit chance. Everything is stacked for bragging purposes, and we can't draw anything useful from it in regards to comparing/gearing ourselves in Inferno.

If you want to help, please post your gear and what your numbers look like when you don't feel yourself so hard.

Woah alot of people are butthurt about my SS, it's caught off because that's where the word "attributes" cuts off rofl, no duh I'm using sharpshooter. That SS was with my SURVIVABILITY gear, as you'll notice my vit and resists aren't complete crap, it helps alot to not die to weak minions/random fires/etc.

That SS was taken just to show that inferno is very easy once you have proper gear. With an emerald slotted bow, dex tal rashas chest, and a 120 dex andariels visage, I can inflate that number to 180k.

Crit damage is probably the most important stat for a DH, and if you can balance that with dex/aspeed, you will be very strong. Gloves/ammys/rings can have all 3 of those stats. Example: http://i.imgur.com/gu1Sq.png

Helm/Bracer/Gloves/Rings/Ammys can give crit strike percentages.

The only way to get attack speed from helms/armor is from legendaries(tal rashas, andariels, mempos). A 3 socket tal rashas armor is probably the best in the game for DH, unless you get a really lucky 90+ dex roll. You can get attack speed on other parts, but since they are lower level legendaries the dex roll is too low to make it worth it. Inna's pants has the glitchy attack speed stat so I would stay away from that, at least for now.


Good1
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation138 Posts
May 27 2012 21:18 GMT
#648
I got a nice loot and everything but it gets 1 shot from everything, im so tired of it, i think it's a joke and bad game design. You have to play perfectly to kill certain mobs.
Good1
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation138 Posts
May 27 2012 21:24 GMT
#649
On May 28 2012 06:15 superbabosheki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 02:38 Cel.erity wrote:
On May 27 2012 01:35 klops wrote:
On May 27 2012 00:36 FliedLice wrote:
On May 26 2012 23:48 klops wrote:
On May 26 2012 02:42 superbabosheki wrote:
On May 26 2012 02:00 Hardigan wrote:
what do you think about "magic find" items with lvl 60?
-how many % would be acceptable?
-are you comfortable sacrificing some dps/vit for it?
-does "magic find" also count for rare (yellow) items or only for magic (blue)?
-if i would have an acceptable amount of it, should i shoot every barrel/destructible object or does this attribute only count for enemys?

MF is pretty overrated once you realize it's mechanics. I've ran with 185 mf and it really doesn't make too much of a difference. With 200 mf, a monster has a 0.1% chance to drop a rare, that increases to 0.3%. If it has a 0.001% chance to drop a legendary, it would increase to 0.003%. For bosses, nephalem valor is all you need to get the crazy drops, mf has very little effect on them. 5 stacks of valor would be better than 200 mf, and if they are stacked, the difference is still negligible.

Inferno is pretty ezpz once you gear up, I have no troubles at all.Once I find a good helm/ring/belt, I'll finally be satisfied with my DH and start a wizard! [image loading]


why did you even bother cutting out your crit chance when its obvious you're using sharpshooter?


even with sharpshooter 100k is pretty high


maybe if he was using a bow i'd be impressed.


It's pretty hard to take the ss seriously, he has 170% extra crit damage and 100% crit chance. Everything is stacked for bragging purposes, and we can't draw anything useful from it in regards to comparing/gearing ourselves in Inferno.

If you want to help, please post your gear and what your numbers look like when you don't feel yourself so hard.

Woah alot of people are butthurt about my SS, it's caught off because that's where the word "attributes" cuts off rofl, no duh I'm using sharpshooter. That SS was with my SURVIVABILITY gear, as you'll notice my vit and resists aren't complete crap, it helps alot to not die to weak minions/random fires/etc.

That SS was taken just to show that inferno is very easy once you have proper gear. With an emerald slotted bow, dex tal rashas chest, and a 120 dex andariels visage, I can inflate that number to 180k.

Crit damage is probably the most important stat for a DH, and if you can balance that with dex/aspeed, you will be very strong. Gloves/ammys/rings can have all 3 of those stats.

Helm/Bracer/Gloves/Rings/Ammys can give crit strike percentages.

The only way to get attack speed from helms/armor is from legendaries(tal rashas, andariels, mempos). A 3 socket tal rashas armor is probably the best in the game for DH, unless you get a really lucky 90+ dex roll.




Would be nice if you can show your full gear, very curious to see those monstrous items. Demage doesnt mateer much if you get 1 shotted by a fast mob, inferno is not easy in any way
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
May 27 2012 21:33 GMT
#650
Here's some random stuff, I have better gloves and some of my items are in the AH. http://i.imgur.com/l3HF3.png. Some parts I need to improve but that's the gist of it.
BentoBox
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada303 Posts
May 28 2012 00:06 GMT
#651
On May 28 2012 03:38 ELA wrote:
Im stuck on The Butcher on Inferno at the moment, his multi-chain attack just oneshots me every time if I dont dodge it by chance or smoke screen (not enraged). Anyone have a few good tips on beating him? I use Nether Tentacles, Preperation, Smoke Screen w. the prolonged effect, Guardian Ballista for the 15% dmg reduction.

Any recommendations? Or is it just my gear? 26k hp, ~60 all resists

edit: got him! Timed my smokescreens to after he ran into the wall, that seems to be the time where he does multichain the most often! - It's quite helpful to know for all classes I think!


Just killed him after 30~ deaths. It basically comes down to memorizing his animations to know what he's about to do. When he looks left and right, you know he'll be throwing his grappling scythe~ The multi-chain also has a very specific animation. You need to be very conservative with your discipline usage if you can. Always strive to be at the bottom of the screen if possible because you cannot see what he's up to when he's below. And sometimes you'll be in a bad position, know the butcher is going to throw something at you but SS won't last long enough to get you through a cell of fire, so you die... GL
Only dead fish swim with the stream
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
May 28 2012 00:26 GMT
#652
so i just got my dh to 60 and inferno, I came from playing monk so I have absolutely no clue on what gear to focus on.

My guess definitely is high dex and as much ias as possible but Im not sure how much vita and resists I need.
Power of Ze
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
May 28 2012 01:01 GMT
#653
On May 28 2012 06:06 silencefc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 02:08 poor newb wrote:
wheres the safest place to farm in act 3 or 4?


A lot of people are farming the Aspects in Act 4. Get the checkpoint for right before Diablo and then take the waypoint previous and kill the NPC that transforms into a purple mob. Use Evasive Fire + Covering Fire to shoot through the teleporting pillar and kite it in circles. Most people skip the Marius spawn because it has a shit ton of health. Illusions. and is ranged.

I'm personally farming the demon ambush in Act 3 between the signal fire and raising catapult quest. I've gotten two 1100 and a 1200 dps weapon so far from drops. There's occasionally an elite pack that spawns for an extra challenge and loot. I've also seen a Treasure Imp twice now.


i'm interested in what your magic find is or whatever.. you're talking about the purple mob that spawns off the raised bridge right?
i've been getting only 600 atk blues at best and it seems the tier of those drops are very low so far
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
May 28 2012 01:08 GMT
#654
On May 28 2012 10:01 nanaoei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:06 silencefc wrote:
On May 28 2012 02:08 poor newb wrote:
wheres the safest place to farm in act 3 or 4?


A lot of people are farming the Aspects in Act 4. Get the checkpoint for right before Diablo and then take the waypoint previous and kill the NPC that transforms into a purple mob. Use Evasive Fire + Covering Fire to shoot through the teleporting pillar and kite it in circles. Most people skip the Marius spawn because it has a shit ton of health. Illusions. and is ranged.

I'm personally farming the demon ambush in Act 3 between the signal fire and raising catapult quest. I've gotten two 1100 and a 1200 dps weapon so far from drops. There's occasionally an elite pack that spawns for an extra challenge and loot. I've also seen a Treasure Imp twice now.


i'm interested in what your magic find is or whatever.. you're talking about the purple mob that spawns off the raised bridge right?
i've been getting only 600 atk blues at best and it seems the tier of those drops are very low so far


I've been running it with 28%mf, but I've dropped it a bit lower.

Purple mobs take a lot of runs before they drop anything decent because they're usually much easier than any Inferno Elite pack. Even the Act 4 Aspects usually drop a lot of crap and I was running that with +100mf wearing hybrid mf/dps gear.

If you want quality drops over quantity, you have to run through areas and dungeons and farm Elite packs such as Butcher runs in Act 1, Terminus runs in Act 2, Zoltan Kule runs in Act 2, and the larger bridge areas in Act 3. These are usually much, much harder than simple Purple runs.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
May 28 2012 01:19 GMT
#655
On May 28 2012 10:08 silencefc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 10:01 nanaoei wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:06 silencefc wrote:
On May 28 2012 02:08 poor newb wrote:
wheres the safest place to farm in act 3 or 4?


A lot of people are farming the Aspects in Act 4. Get the checkpoint for right before Diablo and then take the waypoint previous and kill the NPC that transforms into a purple mob. Use Evasive Fire + Covering Fire to shoot through the teleporting pillar and kite it in circles. Most people skip the Marius spawn because it has a shit ton of health. Illusions. and is ranged.

I'm personally farming the demon ambush in Act 3 between the signal fire and raising catapult quest. I've gotten two 1100 and a 1200 dps weapon so far from drops. There's occasionally an elite pack that spawns for an extra challenge and loot. I've also seen a Treasure Imp twice now.


i'm interested in what your magic find is or whatever.. you're talking about the purple mob that spawns off the raised bridge right?
i've been getting only 600 atk blues at best and it seems the tier of those drops are very low so far


I've been running it with 28%mf, but I've dropped it a bit lower.

Purple mobs take a lot of runs before they drop anything decent because they're usually much easier than any Inferno Elite pack. Even the Act 4 Aspects usually drop a lot of crap and I was running that with +100mf wearing hybrid mf/dps gear.

If you want quality drops over quantity, you have to run through areas and dungeons and farm Elite packs such as Butcher runs in Act 1, Terminus runs in Act 2, Zoltan Kule runs in Act 2, and the larger bridge areas in Act 3. These are usually much, much harder than simple Purple runs.


i see, thanks a lot. it seems that i'm having too much trouble with almost all elite packs in act 2 and 3 so i'll just have to hope for a good upgrade as a drop off the purple mobs i can currently farm
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 28 2012 01:28 GMT
#656
What do you guys build to get 100% crit? I'm only lvl 50 at Act 1 Hell but my Crit chance is 18%. Should I start looking for ammys and rings with sick crit chance?
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dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 01:41:28
May 28 2012 01:32 GMT
#657
On May 28 2012 09:26 Elegance wrote:
so i just got my dh to 60 and inferno, I came from playing monk so I have absolutely no clue on what gear to focus on.

My guess definitely is high dex and as much ias as possible but Im not sure how much vita and resists I need.



The general rule I use is: enough survivability to not get one shot by hard to dodge or unavoidable damage, rest into more damage. So for Act 1, enough to survive the Butcher's arc chain attack.

Forgot to add that the best defense the DH has is stacking as much damage and max discipline as you can, and killing things before you run out of discipline.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
May 28 2012 01:33 GMT
#658
On May 28 2012 10:28 HazMat wrote:
What do you guys build to get 100% crit? I'm only lvl 50 at Act 1 Hell but my Crit chance is 18%. Should I start looking for ammys and rings with sick crit chance?

They're using an ability called Sharpshooter which increases your critical hit chance by 1% every second, but resets when you score a critical hit. As far as I know nobody actually has 100% crit chance, but it's all the same when you're trying to show off your DPS :p.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
May 28 2012 01:35 GMT
#659
On May 28 2012 10:28 HazMat wrote:
What do you guys build to get 100% crit? I'm only lvl 50 at Act 1 Hell but my Crit chance is 18%. Should I start looking for ammys and rings with sick crit chance?


Don't think 100% crit chance is possible with current modifiers on items; the max modifiers I've seen on the market so far (4.5 for rings, 8 for helms, 8 for quivers, 8 gloves, etc) would only give you 40-50 at most. Might be possible once the game is out longer and people find items with higher modifiers.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 01:55:49
May 28 2012 01:36 GMT
#660
Derp
So what crit chance should I be aiming for?
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