EPTIn other words how much extra DPS do you need to make up for the loss of the extra socket on a manticore?
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GrimZeRo
United States113 Posts
In other words how much extra DPS do you need to make up for the loss of the extra socket on a manticore? | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 23 2012 03:26 GrimZeRo wrote: Quick question: What is the one socket equivalent DPS wise of a 2 socketed manticore with 1060 dps. Assuming the dex/IAS/ and CHD are all the same. In other words how much extra DPS do you need to make up for the loss of the extra socket on a manticore? 1160-1200, roughly. Of course, it depends on things like Crit Chance and how much CHD you have without the weapon. | ||
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
This is my gf's character. We're playing on same account. She wasn't playing for sometime and she asked me for upgrades. I couldn't help her because it seem her upgrades became really expensive. Can someone help me? She has roughly 40m budget. Much appreciated. Edit: She tried HA with Spray of Teeth but she said Evasive fire still seems better her (Probably because of no projectile style). I don't know if she is right about that. I still believe HA is better. Can someone clear this? Thanks again. | ||
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OhNeverMind
United States90 Posts
On November 23 2012 11:01 Aceace wrote: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Ace-2540/hero/4129523 This is my gf's character. We're playing on same account. She wasn't playing for sometime and she asked me for upgrades. I couldn't help her because it seem her upgrades became really expensive. Can someone help me? She has roughly 40m budget. Much appreciated. Edit: She tried HA with Spray of Teeth but she said Evasive fire still seems better her (Probably because of no projectile style). I don't know if she is right about that. I still believe HA is better. Can someone clear this? Thanks again. Since you already have a nice 2-socket manticore I'd probably focus on getting the 2-piece nats for the extra crit chance (probably boots + chest). I also noticed a huge difference in farm speed once I got the extra movespeed from inna's pants so getting a decent one of those or lacuni's would also be a good choice. I prefer HA but honestly evasive fire is really good and generates more hatred so it really is 100% up to preference. for reference this is my gear but I wish I had some discipline http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Hephaestus-1911/hero/3444577 | ||
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FakeDouble
Australia676 Posts
Ah the old HA vs EF debate. HA does more single target damage, good for running ubers or if you don't have high damage EF (covering fire) lets you hit all three blues, might still take the same number of shots as HA but less overkill and instant damage, good for low mp farming when your damage is high enough It's personal preference really, I use both, HA for MP2 and up, EF for MP1 and MP0 | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On November 23 2012 11:01 Aceace wrote: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Ace-2540/hero/4129523 This is my gf's character. We're playing on same account. She wasn't playing for sometime and she asked me for upgrades. I couldn't help her because it seem her upgrades became really expensive. Can someone help me? She has roughly 40m budget. Much appreciated. Edit: She tried HA with Spray of Teeth but she said Evasive fire still seems better her (Probably because of no projectile style). I don't know if she is right about that. I still believe HA is better. Can someone clear this? Thanks again. The weakest item in the set right now is the belt, however the BiS belt is either The Witching Hour or Inna's Belt, both of which require some good stats to go with them, and are super expensive. For now, I would upgrade the shoulders to a Vile Wards. You can get an endgame Vile Wards for quite cheap and use it for the rest of your D3 career. Your skills should depend on what you are farming. Personally, I take Hungering Arrow/Spray of Teeth + Elemental Arrow/Ball Lightning. Ball Lighting is stupidly OP, and for lower MPs using vengeance, I get enough hatred regen that I never have to use Hungering Arrow ever. The only time I use it is for picking off single stray targets or dpsing down a single elite monster. I don't have enough experience with cluster arrow to determine what primary goes best with it. | ||
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
She bought a cheap Vile Ward and start farming for lacuni with some cc for movespeed. Thanks so so much. (Btw witching hour prices are insane.) | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
On November 23 2012 13:33 Aceace wrote: Thanks so so much. She bought a cheap Vile Ward and start farming for lacuni with some cc for movespeed. Thanks so so much. (Btw witching hour prices are insane.) I gotta say i don't like that she is disregarding sets completely. 2piece inna (Belt+pants) and 3piece nats(Boots chest Ring) easily gives you by far the best dps per Gold spent. Replace the andys with a mempo to make up for the lost suvivability and i think she can get 30-50k extra dps. | ||
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HeadHunterzzzz
24 Posts
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Headhunterz-2917/hero/7673188 i was thinking about nat's boots and ring with cd.. | ||
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LaiShin
Australia978 Posts
If you're going for cc lacunis later on, go Ice Climber imo. Otherwise, nat boots + nat ring. Amulets should be pretty cheap to upgrade. But I'm not sure on eu prices. What budget are u working with? | ||
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HeadHunterzzzz
24 Posts
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Soft`Soap
Canada865 Posts
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SoftSoap-1341/hero/13398693 what should I upgrade next? | ||
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triforks
United States370 Posts
im thinking that a manticore with 1 more socket but like 1.1k dps might be better? or maybe just save for witching hour belt? here is me http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/triforkz-1814/hero/672050 | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 26 2012 08:08 Soft`Soap wrote: 210k unbuffed DPS and all my next upgrades look to be expensive and I'm sure it'll be hard for me to find deals lol (I don't like spending more than like 15m on an item haha) http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SoftSoap-1341/hero/13398693 what should I upgrade next? Glove and Left ring will be the cheapest with biggest effects. Trifectas are the obvious upgrades, but you could probably get +200 dex total on those two pieces for only a few million. | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On November 26 2012 08:08 Soft`Soap wrote: 210k unbuffed DPS and all my next upgrades look to be expensive and I'm sure it'll be hard for me to find deals lol (I don't like spending more than like 15m on an item haha) http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SoftSoap-1341/hero/13398693 what should I upgrade next? Why do you have sharp shooter? Doesnt ss become kinda worthless once your past 40%? I'd swap the andy's for a mempo, it would make you a lot less squishy to fire, give some more hp, and some all res. The ones with crit chance cost a bit, but you seem rich. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 26 2012 14:17 dartoo wrote: Why do you have sharp shooter? Doesnt ss become kinda worthless once your past 40%? I'd swap the andy's for a mempo, it would make you a lot less squishy to fire, give some more hp, and some all res. The ones with crit chance cost a bit, but you seem rich. He's not nearly that rich. Any Mempo with crit is minimum 200mil. | ||
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
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Glacierz
United States1245 Posts
On November 27 2012 05:33 Thermia wrote: Sitting at 155k dps with 4piece legacy nat's/215k with new ones + andariels and kinda at a loss for what I should upgrade next. It seems like most things that would have a pretty small benefit are priced quite high (100m budget - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mierin-1506/hero/6016468 ) You can get 100 higher dps manticore if going for only 1 socket under your budget, that will probably give the biggest dps boost. With only 100m, I think you could also work on getting more tanky while maintaining the same DPS at this point for optimal benefit/price ratio, your hp is a bit too low. Or you can do what I did after reaching 200k dps, gear up a barb for 100m and be just as effective farming low mps and tanking ubers: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/6699122 http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3184969 | ||
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
On November 27 2012 05:44 Glacierz wrote: You can get 100 higher dps manticore if going for only 1 socket under your budget, that will probably give the biggest dps boost. With only 100m, I think you could also work on getting more tanky while maintaining the same DPS at this point for optimal benefit/price ratio, your hp is a bit too low. Or you can do what I did after reaching 200k dps, gear up a barb for 100m and be just as effective farming low mps and tanking ubers: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/6699122 http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3184969 I generally just play with friends on barbs when doing content I could actually die on, legacy nats is just for facerolling ubers/it's more fun to play with IMO. | ||
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Soft`Soap
Canada865 Posts
On November 26 2012 14:17 dartoo wrote: Why do you have sharp shooter? Doesnt ss become kinda worthless once your past 40%? I'd swap the andy's for a mempo, it would make you a lot less squishy to fire, give some more hp, and some all res. The ones with crit chance cost a bit, but you seem rich. I actually don't play with SS at all haha. I was checking to see what my crits would average out at and I must've left it on when I signed out, it should be fixed now. I'm actually not nearly as rich as you think, I have maybe 9m on me right now, which is definitely not nearly enough to buy a mempo with crit haha. I've honestly gotten lucky with almost all of my items and have bought them for very cheap (excluding the witching hour which I actually paid 17m for but it's still a decent deal I hope, and the Manticore which I paid 12 rmah dollars but just because I sold an item for that much and I felt I could splurge lol). My way of buying items is to camp out on a specific item on weekends and just filter by time left, sometimes people will underprice their items by a lot and you'll be able to get a really good deal. If you know exactly what you're looking for then have as many filters as possible. For example I filtered the dead man's legacy to have 19% ias, 190 dex, a socket, 9 crit chance, and hungering arrow damage. I refreshed for like 35 minutes before one came up (that wasn't instantly gone) that was under 1.5m and I insta-bought it without looking at it as I knew it had the minimum stats I was looking for lol. | ||
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