EPTfeels sickening I don't even know how much longer I can play, I'm at 11k elite kills and I haven't found anything good, ever. The most for one item was probably 10 mil.
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Ym1r
United States1164 Posts
feels sickening I don't even know how much longer I can play, I'm at 11k elite kills and I haven't found anything good, ever. The most for one item was probably 10 mil. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Ym1r-1314/hero/836883 | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
Doesnt seem to show too much of a change. because you lose raw dps from the weapon and dex too, and gain in critical hit, so it might net be worth the cash. I would get better shoulders, gogo vile wards.Seems like the weakest piece currently. Kinda feel your primary stat is a little on the low side. Plus I also like to be at about 1.7 for attack speed, might be worth it to get a single socket high dps xbow, with crit, gem it(no idea about the prices on these though). then maybe use the crit damage gained from the xbow to upgrade other areas. | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3468 Posts
On November 27 2012 14:48 Ym1r wrote: I am like extremely broke, but I just want to know what I should upgrade next, and if a 2 slot with 2 100% gem manticore with no dex at 1k dps and 90% crit chance is better than my xbow im using feels sickening I don't even know how much longer I can play, I'm at 11k elite kills and I haven't found anything good, ever. The most for one item was probably 10 mil. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Ym1r-1314/hero/836883 I feel like your weapon is among your best items. First upgrades would be shoulders (I highly advise AGAINST vile wards however, you will get better rares cheaper) and replace your legacy andys and innas stuff. Your gloves could use an upgrade as well. Don't be tempted to buy legendaries just cuz they are shiny and orange. | ||
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wooozy
3813 Posts
noting that i'm not willing to spend any more than ~30m, is there anything i can change at this point? saving my gold for any future monk changes =p http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/wooozy-1907/hero/10872626 (hopefully you can catch it before i end up having to switch gears back to monk) also, i remember cluster bomb was always agreed to be the better rune, but now i see a lot of people using loaded for bear. can i get a brief explanation on that? also also, what do you find is a comfortable HP pool? i'm most likely going to lose the VIT from my nat's ring because i'm looking for an average damage/cc one (that excludes the 30m budget 'cause it's for my monk ;D). is ~32k hp, ~260 AR, 3.5k armor enough? | ||
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Glacierz
United States1244 Posts
On November 27 2012 17:26 wooozy wrote: ok so i haven't played DH since like 1.0.1 or 2 and randomly decided to casually gear my DH 'cause i was bored and had the manticore sitting in my stash for ages. some of it is shared from my monk and i completely guessed on how much defensive stats i needed. will i be able to get away with less resists on the bracers? i want to replace it with one that has pickup radius. 0 is such a joke >_< noting that i'm not willing to spend any more than ~30m, is there anything i can change at this point? saving my gold for any future monk changes =p http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/wooozy-1907/hero/10872626 (hopefully you can catch it before i end up having to switch gears back to monk) also, i remember cluster bomb was always agreed to be the better rune, but now i see a lot of people using loaded for bear. can i get a brief explanation on that? also also, what do you find is a comfortable HP pool? i'm most likely going to lose the VIT from my nat's ring because i'm looking for an average damage/cc one (that excludes the 30m budget 'cause it's for my monk ;D). is ~32k hp, ~260 AR, 3.5k armor enough? You can always replace helm with a mempo, and go for pick up radius on the bracer. You will lose some dps but become a lot tankier. Most of your gear is worth north of 30m already... no point in upgrades until you have a much higher budget. 30k hp is fine, but most DH i know with that much HP has close to 400 AR... It all depends on which MP you play on. I'm not sure why you are not using Archery, it's such a good dmg boost. | ||
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banatboy
120 Posts
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
My Barbarian really, really pisses me off, but I fear that if I sell her shit I'll just end up with a worse, slower and less durable version. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On December 02 2012 12:48 kafkaesque wrote: I'd love to know how much you have to spend to farm MP1 with a build based on Vault and fast movement speed. My Barbarian really, really pisses me off, but I fear that if I sell her shit I'll just end up with a worse, slower and less durable version. DH gear is very cheap now. I spent 20-40 mil on all my pieces a while back to farm crazy fast, and now they're all worth 100k-200k. | ||
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Serendipityx
United States595 Posts
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kabar
United States616 Posts
On December 02 2012 21:02 ChaosTriggeR wrote: considering maybe getting back into this game, whats the standard build now for demon hunters? I heard elemental arrow ball lightning is used a lot now. Also what about bows? What legendaries are worth it on dh now? Is manticore the preferred option or is a higher dps rare still better? i recently started playing a little d3 again as well, the op has a ton of good info. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On December 02 2012 21:02 ChaosTriggeR wrote: considering maybe getting back into this game, whats the standard build now for demon hunters? I heard elemental arrow ball lightning is used a lot now. Also what about bows? What legendaries are worth it on dh now? Is manticore the preferred option or is a higher dps rare still better? rare will always be better dps/cost than manticore. However the absolute best manticores will be better than the absolute best rares. Unless you are going for a 1300 dps double soc 170 dex manticore, get a rare instead. | ||
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zuqbu
Germany797 Posts
i am close to 400 hours on my DH, and i have never found something really useful i could use myself. natalya's set is the only set that didn't drop at all so far, the only thing that was remotely useful for me were some dex vile wards but at that point i had already better ones… that said, i didn't have bad luck with drops, i can't complain. but everyday i start farming, i wish an upgrade for my DH drops. for a long time, the RNG tried to say "just play a barb" and threw tons of immortal king stuff at me (2x the weapon and chest, gloves, helm and 5x the belt) along with a fantastic rare belt which is my highest sell to date, str+ar lacunis, echoing fury, skorn(s) etc. always had some WD and WIZ stuff drop inbetween, a tal rasha chest, amulet and belt here, zunimassa's stuff there, a low int witching hour, triumvirate(s), oculus, chantando, ice climbers as well as firewalkers with int and lots of other stuff i sold… now for a few days, the luck has swung to monk gear: 3 or 4 legendary fist weapons and i have found every piece of the inna's set… of course except for the part that would be useful for a DH (inna's temperance). alright, i got the message, instead of selling everything i decided to roll a monk and actually use some of the stuff i found myself. yesterday, my monk reached lvl 60, and i started progressing through act 1 inferno on MP1 when suddenly – after another elite pack bites the dust a glowing beam of light appeared. it's the first legendary my monk has found: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lgXO7.png) really, RNG? after all this time my DH tried to find something useful you decide that the first legendary my stupid monk should find is a nice DML? now i'm unsure if i should keep it or not, it's mostly a question of do i want to use ball lightning or multishot, here's my current DML: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Smb8f.png) what's your track record? did anyone have luck finding something he could equip no questions asked? | ||
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wooozy
3813 Posts
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
Notable times were me finding a manti (1.04),to upgrade from a broken bow,a dml to replace a rare quiver when I was saving up to buy one, then a dual socket anti from the act 3 keywarden, when I was again looking to buy one. One of the things that is a little frustrating, is a feeling of aimlessness. For example, I know I needed to get a dead mans, but where ..how? I was like...well I just have to run alkaizers, and save money/sell stuff and buy one(I got lucky and during the fourth run, a random scorpion dropped it but..yeah). It would be kinda cool to know that a certain area/person had a small chance of dropping it, so you could feel as though you ere trying for something. This sort of goes against the pure randomness that the game is supposed to be but, this is kinda what I've been feeling everytime I want to get a certain item, but have no other option but to blindly alkaizers/vota etc. | ||
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wkk6813
30 Posts
On December 03 2012 18:58 zuqbu wrote: the RNG is trolling me. i am close to 400 hours on my DH, and i have never found something really useful i could use myself. natalya's set is the only set that didn't drop at all so far, the only thing that was remotely useful for me were some dex vile wards but at that point i had already better ones… that said, i didn't have bad luck with drops, i can't complain. but everyday i start farming, i wish an upgrade for my DH drops. for a long time, the RNG tried to say "just play a barb" and threw tons of immortal king stuff at me (2x the weapon and chest, gloves, helm and 5x the belt) along with a fantastic rare belt which is my highest sell to date, str+ar lacunis, echoing fury, skorn(s) etc. always had some WD and WIZ stuff drop inbetween, a tal rasha chest, amulet and belt here, zunimassa's stuff there, a low int witching hour, triumvirate(s), oculus, chantando, ice climbers as well as firewalkers with int and lots of other stuff i sold… now for a few days, the luck has swung to monk gear: 3 or 4 legendary fist weapons and i have found every piece of the inna's set… of course except for the part that would be useful for a DH (inna's temperance). alright, i got the message, instead of selling everything i decided to roll a monk and actually use some of the stuff i found myself. yesterday, my monk reached lvl 60, and i started progressing through act 1 inferno on MP1 when suddenly – after another elite pack bites the dust a glowing beam of light appeared. it's the first legendary my monk has found: + Show Spoiler + really, RNG? after all this time my DH tried to find something useful you decide that the first legendary my stupid monk should find is a nice DML? now i'm unsure if i should keep it or not, it's mostly a question of do i want to use ball lightning or multishot, here's my current DML: + Show Spoiler + what's your track record? did anyone have luck finding something he could equip no questions asked? Yup, my DML is also self-found, there are better ones at AH to upgrade cheaply but i am still keeping mine because it feels like i built this character (at least 10%....lol ) This is me: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sun-1894/hero/18938946 | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1010 Posts
On December 02 2012 09:23 banatboy wrote: In anticipation of PvP, what would be a best build for a DH? (fastest time to get an opponent down, thoughts?) These are my thoughts and obviously just speculations. Hungering Arrow, Multishot and Impale will be important no doubt. They all travel fast and that's key. I think +% critical to Multishot equipment will get really expensive when PvP is here, and Elemental Arrow % damage will not be as valuable. I mean Multishot does a good amount of damage and is hard to miss with so another 10% critical chance to that skill will make it really good. Hungering Arrow is guided, nuff said. Everyone used it in D2 PvP. Impale does an insane amount of damage on crit, is really fast, has a longer range than Multishot and also knockbacks/stuns enemies so it's probably going to be a great snipe skill. The arenas look pretty small for a 4v4 though so i don't know, maybe Ball Lightning will be a useful skill to spam when defending. Most players stack physical or fire res after all. Anyway there are so many skills and combinations to try I just hope there's not going to be an ultimate PvP build. | ||
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PaNiCterrran
Sweden47 Posts
On December 04 2012 01:07 Freezard wrote: These are my thoughts and obviously just speculations. Hungering Arrow, Multishot and Impale will be important no doubt. They all travel fast and that's key. I think +% critical to Multishot equipment will get really expensive when PvP is here, and Elemental Arrow % damage will not be as valuable. I mean Multishot does a good amount of damage and is hard to miss with so another 10% critical chance to that skill will make it really good. Hungering Arrow is guided, nuff said. Everyone used it in D2 PvP. Impale does an insane amount of damage on crit, is really fast, has a longer range than Multishot and also knockbacks/stuns enemies so it's probably going to be a great snipe skill. The arenas look pretty small for a 4v4 though so i don't know, maybe Ball Lightning will be a useful skill to spam when defending. Most players stack physical or fire res after all. Anyway there are so many skills and combinations to try I just hope there's not going to be an ultimate PvP build. My experience form WoW PvP leads me to believe that stats such as max discipline and hatred regeneration will be more desired. Not only resources will be key, but also survivability will be increasingly desired for DHs. This will result in the average DPS decreasing. Items that will grow in worth will be: Natalya's Sight with cc and high fear chance, Natalya's Embrace with max discipline, DML with max discipline as well as Calamity (due max discipline, mark of death and hatred regeneration). Might be wrong, but I will probably buy some of the above in anticipation of PvP launch. | ||
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DetO
Finland69 Posts
 and what becomes to skills, i wouldn't count bola with stun rune out. nice aoe in it and stun is always needed  | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1010 Posts
What about life regeneration? Without health globes it would be a really good attribute when kiting but it looks like the arenas will actually drop random globes now and then. Will still probably be good, depending on what damage mitigation Blizzard will go for. Like on chest armor 200 vit feels way better than 500 life regen but that's because we're used to taking much damage and sometimes 1 hit killed (I'm looking at you dark Maghda >_>). | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
I think low hatred spenders combined with impale to spike down targets is going to be useful for a DH. My guess would be... Hungering Arrow/Bola shot. HA is good for the homing, Bola has the better burst & stun depending on team combo. Problem with bola is it can be planned for with immunity abilities and mitigated that way. Impale for spike damage. Spike trap could also be spike damage. SS - Immunity is going to be really important probably, I wouldn't expect Gloom to be enough to keep a DH alive in PvP. Vault - Movement is key. Possibly this could be sacrificed for another disc skill. Prep - See above 2. So what's the last slot? That's where I think things will differ between DH's. Anything from Caltrops to Spike trap to ball lightning to entangling shot. Chances are you'll see ball lightning the most, but I think there's a good case for spike trap to combo with impale/other skills for burst damage and space control. For passives you'll probably see something like Brooding, Perfectionist, Tactical Advantage. I bet for knockback & the like you'll have diminishing returns & immunity to prevent perma knockback. PvP for DH is going to be weird gear wise because atk speed is going to be a lot more important since it lowers your animation times and allows for more mobility. As said above I think +disc will be really important for SS spamming. Basically I expect DHs to PvP kind of like they did at the start of Inferno (spam ss to stay alive). | ||
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