|
On July 05 2012 15:42 KingOfAmerica wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 12:19 run.at.me wrote:
just completed nats set and its the most imba thing in the entire world. never had so much fun Really? The set bonuses are nice... but it seems like for the 50-70M you need to get a complete set you could have far superior gear in rares (IE make up crit chance partially on helm, higher dext rolls in all slots, etc) The Natalya's souls never seem to have great rolls, and for the 30M min you need to get a Natalya's mark you can get way better rings. I know the general concensus seems to be to build the Natalya's set, but I would like to understand it's relative benefits over other best in slot region rares. Anyone care to weigh in?
I've been trying to decide whether to complete the 4 set. I had the boots/cloak/ring for probably a month now. I've been upgrading other slots and I don't find a need to have to spam smokescreen all day. I sold a gg ring so I'm down to 42% crit chance and with a spike traps/caltrops combination I have been able to farm act 3 pretty reliably. They get stunned, they take huge dmg, u walk back, and repeat. You have more than enough discipline to do this for a few minutes straight.
I guess if you're gonna go glass cannon, the nats set isn't the worst idea in the world. Otherwise, the helm is absolute shit for the cost (assuming you want a socket).
|
Another question - what should i be aiming for in HP to be able to progress through act2 inferno? I have ~39k HP now which seems on the higher end from what i've seen. i think i need to sac some HP in favor of DPS (currently at ~39k without sharpshooter/~77k with SS) and resitances (all currently around 100), but don't want over do it. what's the optimal amount of HP for an inferno DH?
Thanks!
|
On July 06 2012 00:41 JustJonny wrote:
Another question - what should i be aiming for in HP to be able to progress through act2 inferno? I have ~39k HP now which seems on the higher end from what i've seen. i think i need to sac some HP in favor of DPS (currently at ~39k without sharpshooter/~77k with SS) and resitances (all currently around 100), but don't want over do it. what's the optimal amount of HP for an inferno DH?
Thanks!
Lower the HP, raise your dps and resist.
|
On July 06 2012 00:41 JustJonny wrote:
Another question - what should i be aiming for in HP to be able to progress through act2 inferno? I have ~39k HP now which seems on the higher end from what i've seen. i think i need to sac some HP in favor of DPS (currently at ~39k without sharpshooter/~77k with SS) and resitances (all currently around 100), but don't want over do it. what's the optimal amount of HP for an inferno DH?
Thanks!
Should be more then enough for act 2, I did it with 30k dips/20k hp and only resists from intelligence (like 30 allres or so). Just use smokescreen when nagas cloak so they hit your follower; then blow them up. Might want to get +10 disc if you don't have it atm though; being able to ss 3 times before preperation is pretty nice.
|
need some advice for getting max discipline items.So right now i am sitting 40k dps unbuff and able to take 2 hits when farming.I bought a 1H 1k dps bow w/o discipline [its high dex + vit] and kinda doubting whether i made a mistake there.Right now i wanna get MAX 10 dis for chest and quiver, for quiver Deadmanlegacy is the best since it has 20IAS but not sure for chest.any recommendation?
|
On July 06 2012 00:47 tuho12345 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 00:41 JustJonny wrote:
Another question - what should i be aiming for in HP to be able to progress through act2 inferno? I have ~39k HP now which seems on the higher end from what i've seen. i think i need to sac some HP in favor of DPS (currently at ~39k without sharpshooter/~77k with SS) and resitances (all currently around 100), but don't want over do it. what's the optimal amount of HP for an inferno DH?
Thanks! Lower the HP, raise your dps and resist.
what number is a good number for HP? 25-30k?
|
On July 06 2012 00:41 JustJonny wrote:
Another question - what should i be aiming for in HP to be able to progress through act2 inferno? I have ~39k HP now which seems on the higher end from what i've seen. i think i need to sac some HP in favor of DPS (currently at ~39k without sharpshooter/~77k with SS) and resitances (all currently around 100), but don't want over do it. what's the optimal amount of HP for an inferno DH?
Thanks!
I'm currently farming Act 3 with 48k dps without sharpshooter, 30k hp and 300 resist all. I was at around 20k hp before buying two rings with the same dps but roughly 10k more hp. It's actually doable with 20k hp and 300 resist all so I'm actually thinking of replacing the rings with more dps.
|
Hey guys, just wondering what's the best build to kill diablo, I have about 65k dps w/o SS and an xbow. Trying cluster bomb with load of bear.
|
On July 06 2012 01:37 andrewlt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 00:41 JustJonny wrote:
Another question - what should i be aiming for in HP to be able to progress through act2 inferno? I have ~39k HP now which seems on the higher end from what i've seen. i think i need to sac some HP in favor of DPS (currently at ~39k without sharpshooter/~77k with SS) and resitances (all currently around 100), but don't want over do it. what's the optimal amount of HP for an inferno DH?
Thanks! I'm currently farming Act 3 with 48k dps without sharpshooter, 30k hp and 300 resist all. I was at around 20k hp before buying two rings with the same dps but roughly 10k more hp. It's actually doable with 20k hp and 300 resist all so I'm actually thinking of replacing the rings with more dps.
I have 22k dps and 400+ AR, and 65k dps w/o SS. Act 3 is quite ok to farm Azmon, just may be skip a few fast/teleport elites. Other than that act 3 is more about build/resist and DPS than hp I think. HP is nice but even with 30k hp if u don't meet the require resistance, I think u won't be able to survive that easy.
|
On July 06 2012 01:28 JustJonny wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 00:47 tuho12345 wrote:On July 06 2012 00:41 JustJonny wrote:
Another question - what should i be aiming for in HP to be able to progress through act2 inferno? I have ~39k HP now which seems on the higher end from what i've seen. i think i need to sac some HP in favor of DPS (currently at ~39k without sharpshooter/~77k with SS) and resitances (all currently around 100), but don't want over do it. what's the optimal amount of HP for an inferno DH?
Thanks! Lower the HP, raise your dps and resist. what number is a good number for HP? 25-30k?
20-25k is ok, higher is good but costs more, if u can save up money to upgrade all at once for act 3, I think it's better.
|
nats set is good for me because i dont use sharp shooter and instead use tactical advantage (the 60% movement speed bonus)
i also duel wield 1 handers
in terms of cost, it really depends on what you want. the set is incredidbly imbalanced imo, which is what makes it so fun. i was lucky enough to find a helm with 80dex 80vit and 4% crit chance from someone on trade chat who had no idea what it was worth at the time (probably a week ago) for 6mil. then bought the chest for 10mil (111 dex 50 vit +3 sock), my brother found boots (which have no dex roll unfortunately)... and then the last piece (the ring) i ACTUALLY bought on rmah using money i'd made from my sales (my first and last item i buy coz i only made $150 on rmah) the ring is 10-20 dmg, 124 dex.
the biggest advantage is farming is ridiculously fast, and i was able to maintain most of my dps (sitting on 80k without sharpshooter). i skip whites when i can using (3/4 smoke screens in a row) then die 10x less than i do normally coz i can spam it. i just spent an hour pretty much clearing all of act three with exception to the arreat cores - i hate serpents.. (including fortified bunker and ice frost) must have killed 35+ elites in that time. i wasn't MF switching tho coz i was testing how much i could do in a short amount of time. (would take a fair bit longer switching coz i die all the time trying to switch)
at the end of the day you don't need it to farm comfortably but in terms of efficiency i havn't seen anything better. tactical advantage and nats set just means perma sprinting everywhere you go ignoring anything thats potentially a waste of time.
|
On July 06 2012 02:19 run.at.me wrote:
nats set is good for me because i dont use sharp shooter and instead use tactical advantage (the 60% movement speed bonus)
i also duel wield 1 handers
in terms of cost, it really depends on what you want. the set is incredidbly imbalanced imo, which is what makes it so fun. i was lucky enough to find a helm with 80dex 80vit and 4% crit chance from someone on trade chat who had no idea what it was worth at the time (probably a week ago) for 6mil.
hahaha what a fleecing, thats an amazing Natalyas gaze. Nice.
Thanks for the feedback. I think I can out DPS a natalya's set... but perma SS movement speed is extremely desirable to me. I run past whites in all acts and kite all day long, right now Im sacrificing my chest and bracers spot for an additional 13% bonus movement speed (+25% with boots). I guess if I can find a way to get a good natalya's ring for less then my first born child I may give this a shot
|
On July 06 2012 01:48 tuho12345 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 01:37 andrewlt wrote:On July 06 2012 00:41 JustJonny wrote:
Another question - what should i be aiming for in HP to be able to progress through act2 inferno? I have ~39k HP now which seems on the higher end from what i've seen. i think i need to sac some HP in favor of DPS (currently at ~39k without sharpshooter/~77k with SS) and resitances (all currently around 100), but don't want over do it. what's the optimal amount of HP for an inferno DH?
Thanks! I'm currently farming Act 3 with 48k dps without sharpshooter, 30k hp and 300 resist all. I was at around 20k hp before buying two rings with the same dps but roughly 10k more hp. It's actually doable with 20k hp and 300 resist all so I'm actually thinking of replacing the rings with more dps. I have 22k dps and 400+ AR, and 65k dps w/o SS. Act 3 is quite ok to farm Azmon, just may be skip a few fast/teleport elites. Other than that act 3 is more about build/resist and DPS than hp I think. HP is nice but even with 30k hp if u don't meet the require resistance, I think u won't be able to survive that easy.
I farmed Act 3 and killed Diablo in inferno before 1.03 hit. I only added 10k hp to get to 30k once the patch hit because I thought it would be really beneficial. I have around 140-150 mf in this setup as well since farming is the only thing this toon needs to do nowadays anyway.
Considering I'm currently using evasive fire and cluster arrow (loaded for bear), I'm considering dropping the attack speed rings too for crit damage.
|
Any suggestions for dealing with Ghom? I have about 45k dps before sharpshooter, somewhere around 150 resists and 35k health.
Is this just a DPS gear-check or what can you do to prevent poison from spreading everywhere within 30 seconds?
|
On July 06 2012 06:00 OhNeverMind wrote:
Any suggestions for dealing with Ghom? I have about 45k dps before sharpshooter, somewhere around 150 resists and 35k health.
Is this just a DPS gear-check or what can you do to prevent poison from spreading everywhere within 30 seconds?
What I read in posts he always makes an animation before casting the cloud. So if you go to the location of the old cloud he will make them in the same place and it gives you much more time till the room is filled.
At the beginning the cloud you go in should not make much damage, after the cast ofc go out as fast as you can.
|
Hey guys, just wondering an xbow with 1142 dps/ 6iAS35% dam and 90% crit dam versus a xbow with 1420 dps/45% dam/8% ias no socket.
Which one do u guys think is better. How much are they actually worth in term of gold right now.
Thank you.
|
would be easier to say if you posted min-max damages
|
On July 06 2012 08:38 tuho12345 wrote:
Hey guys, just wondering an xbow with 1142 dps/ 6iAS35% dam and 90% crit dam versus a xbow with 1420 dps/45% dam/8% ias no socket.
Which one do u guys think is better. How much are they actually worth in term of gold right now.
Thank you.
the 1420 dps one is definitely better imho. lets assume that you got at least 160% crit damage before factoring in the weapon socket. then, on each critical hit, the damage of the big bang weap is 1420*2.6 = 3692. the damage on the socketed weap will be 1142*3.5 = 3997.
thats a difference of about 300. on the other hand, the socketed weap will deal 300 dam less on each non-critical hit. so as long as your effective crit chance (factoring in SS if you use it) is below 50%, which it probably is, the big bang weap is stronger. in general, a higher base crit dam shifts the comparison in favor of the 1420 one, while higher crit chance shifts it towards the socketed one.
|
On July 06 2012 08:57 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 08:38 tuho12345 wrote:
Hey guys, just wondering an xbow with 1142 dps/ 6iAS35% dam and 90% crit dam versus a xbow with 1420 dps/45% dam/8% ias no socket.
Which one do u guys think is better. How much are they actually worth in term of gold right now.
Thank you. the 1420 dps one is definitely better imho. lets assume that you got at least 160% crit damage before factoring in the weapon socket. then, on each critical hit, the damage of the big bang weap is 1420*2.6 = 3692. the damage on the socketed weap will be 1142*3.5 = 3997. thats a difference of about 300. on the other hand, the socketed weap will deal 300 dam less on each non-critical hit. so as long as your effective crit chance (factoring in SS if you use it) is below 50%, which it probably is, the big bang weap is stronger. in general, a higher base crit dam shifts the comparison in favor of the 1420 one, while higher crit chance shifts it towards the socketed one.
Thanks for the advice, my crit chance is extremely low cuz I just dislike it and I don't know why. This is mine that I'm using, with the 90% crit gem
![[image loading]](http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r132/hitman133/Screenshot010.jpg)
And the other one has the stat like I said has 980-1411 damage, min 256-max 296, 45% dam and 8% iAS
|
% dmg/ias doesn't matter, it's all added onto the weapon dps already
300 weapon dps is way too much for a single socket to overcome
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
