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On April 17 2011 07:41 Falcor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:34 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:On April 17 2011 07:24 Falcor wrote:On April 17 2011 07:18 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:On April 17 2011 07:15 burster wrote: players play the games, send replays in to NASL, works fine in TSL.
if the games arent going to be cast legit live but prerecorded live, i find it no difference if they cast it off replays... Yeah there's no difference for you or me or any other viewer of the stream, but there's a huge difference for the people actually producing it. omg its more hassle and work for the people producing it....then again at least if they keep cancelling the best matches they wont have to worry about producing anything. Let me ask you a question, since you're so critical of the NASL. If you were producing a huge tournament/league like the NASL, what would you do if a situation like White-Ra's occurred? What about a situation like MC's? I wouldnt scheduale a match to occur friday sat sun or mon of a weekend that has those players schedualed at a lan. Porblem solved.
Wasnt this game scheduled for Wednesday? and the Naniwa game for Tuesday?
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On April 17 2011 07:46 SMD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:41 Falcor wrote:On April 17 2011 07:34 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:On April 17 2011 07:24 Falcor wrote:On April 17 2011 07:18 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:On April 17 2011 07:15 burster wrote: players play the games, send replays in to NASL, works fine in TSL.
if the games arent going to be cast legit live but prerecorded live, i find it no difference if they cast it off replays... Yeah there's no difference for you or me or any other viewer of the stream, but there's a huge difference for the people actually producing it. omg its more hassle and work for the people producing it....then again at least if they keep cancelling the best matches they wont have to worry about producing anything. Let me ask you a question, since you're so critical of the NASL. If you were producing a huge tournament/league like the NASL, what would you do if a situation like White-Ra's occurred? What about a situation like MC's? I wouldnt scheduale a match to occur friday sat sun or mon of a weekend that has those players schedualed at a lan. Porblem solved. For matches that are delayed which is out of the players hand(ie plane being delayed) delay the fucking game dont cancel it. I dont think people will mind watching that matchup another day even tho that means a extra game needing to be casted. But see im not trying to run a million dollar organization(said its been approved for 3 seasons) so its not my job to do work arounds. Its their job to figure this shit out that keeps their fans happy, cancelling big games when you arent casting live isnt acceptable. If they cant figure out how to fix it hire someone who does edit: and i came up with all that on the top of my head on very little sleep. They had months to figure this out. Players that were invited and accepted new the schedule before we did, they know when they have to play, if they want to go to a LAN or some other tournament fine, but its their responsibility to be able to play their NASL match, or there opponent gets a walkover. With the schedule already being released ( and the players knowing it before we saw it) I don`t see how anyone but the players are to blame for missing their match. Yes oGsMC is missing it because of a plane, but blaming that on the NASL is just rediculous.
when nasl made they scheduale they also knew about when the big lans were happening. And if the organizers didnt realize lan always comes before online(especially group play) the league is going to be riddled with issues and they wont ever be fixed.
On April 17 2011 07:50 BigLighthouse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:41 Falcor wrote:On April 17 2011 07:34 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:On April 17 2011 07:24 Falcor wrote:On April 17 2011 07:18 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:On April 17 2011 07:15 burster wrote: players play the games, send replays in to NASL, works fine in TSL.
if the games arent going to be cast legit live but prerecorded live, i find it no difference if they cast it off replays... Yeah there's no difference for you or me or any other viewer of the stream, but there's a huge difference for the people actually producing it. omg its more hassle and work for the people producing it....then again at least if they keep cancelling the best matches they wont have to worry about producing anything. Let me ask you a question, since you're so critical of the NASL. If you were producing a huge tournament/league like the NASL, what would you do if a situation like White-Ra's occurred? What about a situation like MC's? I wouldnt scheduale a match to occur friday sat sun or mon of a weekend that has those players schedualed at a lan. Porblem solved. Wasnt this game scheduled for Wednesday? and the Naniwa game for Tuesday?
IE out of the players hand(plane delay) and naniwa i actually agree with the nasl...he said he was to tired to play the match or something retarded like that so he should be charged the losses
edit: and im not saying its nasl's fault shit happens... but bottom line it is nasls job to show matches the fans want to see and if they cant do that...
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Some of the people on here.. /facepalm. What exactly does this have to do with the NASL? MC can't make his match, NASL goes live in an hour&1/2 and you're mad at them? call the airline company that made MC miss his match.. the hell is wrong with some of you.
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While I absolutely do not think any of the walkovers have been NASL's fault, it really seems that they should come up with a more flexible system. Switch the days of a couple matches when necessary. Delay a match and broadcast it on a later day. Whatever. It's just really disappointing when this happens, and it is far more likely to happen to the top players, as they are the ones who are travelling around the most and have the highest number of potential conflicts.
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Sucks that MC's plane got delayed but I don't see it as a fault of NASL. I mean c'mon, they're still amazing games to be played...
stalife v machine, ret v ace, goody v catz, hasuobs v select
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Is this even officially confirmed yet? I can't find anything on the NASL homepage.
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Russian Federation131 Posts
even brat_ok has confirmed this! he gets WO
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this may sound ridicilous but maybe programers should just start tweeting that they need a place to play.. I mean they had 2 days to play the game, of course the flight time is something around 17 hours but if any pro gamer would send a tweet like "hey there, flight got delayed, need to play my NASL match, i'm currently at X airport, anyone living nearby?" i'm sure a lot of people would be happy to help.
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Who cares, ogsmc is a cocky prick. The dude needs to deflate his head.
User was banned for this post.
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It's not the NASL's responsibility to take the initiative in rescheduling games. If a player knows they have a definite, likely, or even possible conflict with their scheduled match time they should, at least a week in advance, contact NASL and their opponent to see if they could have the match time swapped with a game on another day. I find it hard to believe that NASL would be unaccommodating in this if the players took the correct initiative to have a match rescheduled.
This BS posters are spouting about having make up games or rescheduling on the last minute is ridiculous. This is a professional league and a player can no more miss a scheduled appointment here than I can with a doctor, a job interview, etc without expecting repercussions.
It sucks that we the spectators are missing matches, but that's on the players making commitments that they couldn't keep, not on the NASL.
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On April 17 2011 08:07 tl01234 wrote: Who cares, ogsmc is a cocky prick. The dude needs to deflate his head. I care... another walkover, this lets NASL look bad and I want to see great games, already so many possible great games ended with walkover just because the people couldnt play.
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And this is why you should cast replays.
So much more flexibility in scheduling. "It's almost like live" is BS. It just doesn't work when you have to schedule people from all over the world and have to live cast on a tight schedule.
Feel kinda sorry for Brat_Ok who trained so hard, but then again he might be happy he got the free wins.
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On April 17 2011 07:51 ahx wrote: Some of the people on here.. /facepalm. What exactly does this have to do with the NASL? MC can't make his match, NASL goes live in an hour&1/2 and you're mad at them? call the airline company that made MC miss his match.. the hell is wrong with some of you.
"Wait, a player has to make a trip after a major, reputable event? Let's schedule the match a couple hours after they get home! There's NO WAY that can go wrong!"
It seems like NASL just wants a "monopoly" on players. They either forfeit any major event, or they don't play in the tournament. While it's expected that players make their best effort to attend their match, NASL should realize that they should make some effort to avoid "close calls" and other conflicts. It's in their best interests.
My choir directors can schedule 80+ students for solo and ensemble contest within a 6 hour period taking into account any conflicts they are informed of better than NASL handles well-known conflicts.
Again, it just seems to me that they're going for quantity over quality.
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Wasn't the whole point of taking players from 'established teams' was to help guarantee they made their match appointments? Seems to have backfired. Players from established teams have more commitments and have to miss more games.
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On April 17 2011 08:18 Zeke50100 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:51 ahx wrote: Some of the people on here.. /facepalm. What exactly does this have to do with the NASL? MC can't make his match, NASL goes live in an hour&1/2 and you're mad at them? call the airline company that made MC miss his match.. the hell is wrong with some of you. "Wait, a player has to make a trip after a major, reputable event? Let's schedule the match a couple hours after they get home! There's NO WAY that can go wrong!" It seems like NASL just wants a "monopoly" on players. They either forfeit any major event, or they don't play in the tournament. While it's expected that players make their best effort to attend their match, NASL should realize that they should make some effort to avoid "close calls" and other conflicts. It's in their best interests. My choir directors can schedule 80+ students for solo and ensemble contest within a 6 hour period taking into account any conflicts they are informed of better than NASL handles well-known conflicts. Again, it just seems to me that they're going for quantity over quality.
There's the key. Onus is on the players to make it known that they need a match rescheduled.
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Almost no one has actual noted how bullshit it would be for BRAT_OK to have to reschedule his life around someone elses misfortune. Obviously it is the sportsmanly thing to do, but he should be no way obliged to. Which ever way you look at it, BRAT_OK followed the schedule and MC did not. BRAT_OK would have to disrupt his week as well as the fact that he has lost time keeping the day of the match free.
Allowing a reschedule would be super accommodating of both the player and the league, but if you begin setting the precedent that you won't be penalized if you don't attend your scheduled match time, then the league may simply dissolve.
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It's all in MC's plans. He is just giving his oponents a headstart to give people the impression they actually had a chance to beat him
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This is why casting from replay is the best for online tournament.
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On April 17 2011 08:27 Shana wrote: This is why casting from replay is the best for online tournament.
This has nothing to do with the problem of missing a scheduled match. Either way a match time must be set and both players and referees must show up. To make everyone else delay because of the fault of one player is 100% unfair to those who show up.
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Russian Federation899 Posts
On April 17 2011 08:21 Dali. wrote: Almost no one has actual noted how bullshit it would be for BRAT_OK to have to reschedule his life around someone elses misfortune. Obviously it is the sportsmanly thing to do, but he should be no way obliged to. Which ever way you look at it, BRAT_OK followed the schedule and MC did not. BRAT_OK would have to disrupt his week as well as the fact that he has lost time keeping the day of the match free.
Allowing a reschedule would be super accommodating of both the player and the league, but if you begin setting the precedent that you won't be penalized if you don't attend your scheduled match time, then the league may simply dissolve.
Yeah, but man, i wanted to see some epic TvP series D: Haven't seen Brat play for ages since he started training with his team in Kiev D:< I WANT BRATOKDROPS D:<<<
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