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Lori_ftw
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany286 Posts
April 17 2011 00:27 GMT
#221
Thats how it looks when you start a tournament with 5matches/day... and the joke is, that great matchups are walkovers.

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Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 00:30:12
April 17 2011 00:28 GMT
#222
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Klogbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States139 Posts
April 17 2011 00:30 GMT
#223
On April 17 2011 09:27 Lori_ftw wrote:
Thats how it looks when you start a tournament with 5matches/day... and the joke is, that great matchups are walkovers.



ofc the great matches are the walk overs...they are the players who have to travel the most, and will have the fullest schedules...They need to start rescheduling these games, if they aren't going to reschedule than they need to award losses to the players who don't show, whether or not it's out of their control, the standings are going to be hard to decipher at the end. MC is going to be at a distinct advantage or a disadvantage because his lack of games will make it easier to raise his winning percentage or lower it.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
April 17 2011 00:34 GMT
#224
On April 17 2011 08:56 Whitewing wrote:
Stop trashing NASL over it, players occasionally have problems and can't play, it's not the league's fault.

They're doing everything they can to accommodate the players, and they have literally no control over it.

They even just added in an extra day of lee-way for players. Cut the league some slack, sheesh. So many whiners.


The league should know better to re-re-re accommodate these players that literally are flying over planet earth to play in other tournaments to make a living. Giving walkovers in a small online tourney when players don't show up? Ok, acceptable.

Giving walkovers against high profile players that are traveling, in a tournament that is supposedly trying to make itself more legit as time passes...not the best idea for all parties involved imo, especially NASL. Can only get them more negative press, and it's hard to argue in their defense on this one...

Hopefully they fix these issues and accommodate players further than what they think is sufficient accommodation. I don't watch NASL, but I can't see how this is anything but a let down to fans that are giving NASL a chance and watching it + even paying for it.
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lowkontrast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States855 Posts
April 17 2011 00:35 GMT
#225
On April 17 2011 09:07 WGT-Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 08:47 Bear4188 wrote:
On April 17 2011 08:40 Shana wrote:
On April 17 2011 08:29 Bear4188 wrote:
On April 17 2011 08:27 Shana wrote:
This is why casting from replay is the best for online tournament.


This has nothing to do with the problem of missing a scheduled match. Either way a match time must be set and both players and referees must show up. To make everyone else delay because of the fault of one player is 100% unfair to those who show up.


And being casted from replays means the schedule will be far more flexible for BOTH players. Korean doesn't have to play at 4 am or players with LAN tournament can play before the events started. Games can be played at more appropriate time for both players. Walk-over games can be prevented and it does not make any difference if the game streamed live or casted from replay.


Some games are played early because it's necessary for a player in Korea, a player in Europe, and a referee from the NASL in California to be in the game. Please elaborate on what kind of amazing time bending technology Blizzard has included with their replay feature that is allowing replay casted games to circumvent these inherent problems with international online leagues.


I think what he meant is that if it s casted from a replay the players can talk to each other about a decent time (not 4 am), because at any give time in the world you cannot have more than 12hours between 2 people. Therefore it can be 9am for player A and 9pm for player B and not 10pm-4am (or the like).

obviously one may argue that some players might have a job too and cant play during the day anyways, making such arrangements impossible. I was just developing his opinion, not stating my own


10pm-4am is only 6 hours... lol.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 17 2011 00:38 GMT
#226
Why not just re-match on the weekend ? Or just release the VODs so we all can watch the favorite players
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
April 17 2011 00:41 GMT
#227
On April 17 2011 08:27 Shana wrote:
This is why casting from replay is the best for online tournament.

You're completely right ;\ Notice how there are no walkovers in the TSL? They do it right, and they're much more flexible with the scheduling of when people need to play it seems.
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v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 00:45:41
April 17 2011 00:45 GMT
#228
Schedule is set, player can't be there - how is it the fault of the NASL? Just seems like with one more pro league there are more and more overlaps, how is that not common sense? NASL is doing what they can, but if a player accepts the walk over, thats just how it is. Get over it.

When the IGN league is out, I can imagine even more overlaps...
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TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 00:46:33
April 17 2011 00:45 GMT
#229
I dont understand why they dont get losses thought... Some of the guys who have to play MC later might as well not show up since MC is so good they will lose anyway but by finding an excuse to not show up they dont get losses. :D
pi_rate_pir_ate
Profile Joined April 2010
United States179 Posts
April 17 2011 00:47 GMT
#230
So they are talking right now like MC is still playing Brat_OK today?
What is?
parkLife
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada125 Posts
April 17 2011 00:49 GMT
#231
People seem to be upset about how NASL didn't reschedule the game. But from my understanding from NASL staff's explanation for White-Ra and Naniwa case, in the event that one player cannot make it in time, it is up to the opponent to decide either to reschedule or to just take the W.O.

So I'm assuming (since I can't be entirely certain) that BratOk chose to take the W.O.
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Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
April 17 2011 00:49 GMT
#232
Since this is divisional play and not at knock out stages yet, I don't understand why they don't just play these games on a different day, especially in a case like this one. It could be the next day, as some people have said, or they could designate a day or two at the end of division play for make-up games.

These things do happen in other sports leagues. In the NFL, one of the stadiums was flooded this year, I think it was the Vikings or another northern NFC team. When that happened, they just rescheduled the game, found a different venue (at a college I think) and made it free for anyone who came. The NASL really needs to have a similar policy for unforeseen circumstances. It makes much more sense than a team or a player playing less games than everyone else.
Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
April 17 2011 00:50 GMT
#233
On April 17 2011 09:45 TaKemE wrote:
I dont understand why they dont get losses thought... Some of the guys who have to play MC later might as well not show up since MC is so good they will lose anyway but by finding an excuse to not show up they dont get losses. :D


It's true. People can start abusing this and making excuses to get 0-0 against people they think they'll lose to. It's very unlikely though.
Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
April 17 2011 00:50 GMT
#234
whoever awarded 2 wins to brat against MC should be fired.
if it's team/board of trustees/organization who decided that, then the whole team should be fired and never be allowed to host a tournament again.

how stupid.
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
April 17 2011 00:55 GMT
#235
So one week has passed and 3 games didnt get played, stream is still choppy (framrate is bad and sound is offsync). When will you fix this mess? There are over 50 players streaming at TL in HD everyday without these issues (in terms of stream quality).
Im just a zerg
Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
April 17 2011 00:56 GMT
#236
korean should consider NASL as a joke for disrespect its players, for reasons

1. downplay lag
2. disrespecting players by not accommodating.
sickle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand656 Posts
April 17 2011 00:58 GMT
#237
sigh... i was so looking forward to bratok vs mc
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
April 17 2011 00:58 GMT
#238
Gonna be fun if some not so great player ends up winning the whole thing due to a bunch of WO's :D
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Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
April 17 2011 01:05 GMT
#239
lol :D the 3rd day in a row I'm planning to stay up to watch NASL just to go to bed as soon as I see the best match of the day got a WO.
Fkin hell the 3rd day in a row -.- this tourney is so great... oh wait nvm
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
April 17 2011 01:11 GMT
#240
Laggy stream (EU), best players walkover. Another reason as to why I stick to GSL / TSL / Events. Also less ping influence this way.
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