• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:52
CEST 07:52
KST 14:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202537Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced50BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup Weeklies and Monthlies Info Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 587 users

oGsMC - NASL - Plane Delayed - Page 12

Forum Index > Community News and Headlines
393 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 20 Next All
Lori_ftw
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany286 Posts
April 17 2011 00:27 GMT
#221
Thats how it looks when you start a tournament with 5matches/day... and the joke is, that great matchups are walkovers.

möp
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 00:30:12
April 17 2011 00:28 GMT
#222
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
Klogbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States139 Posts
April 17 2011 00:30 GMT
#223
On April 17 2011 09:27 Lori_ftw wrote:
Thats how it looks when you start a tournament with 5matches/day... and the joke is, that great matchups are walkovers.



ofc the great matches are the walk overs...they are the players who have to travel the most, and will have the fullest schedules...They need to start rescheduling these games, if they aren't going to reschedule than they need to award losses to the players who don't show, whether or not it's out of their control, the standings are going to be hard to decipher at the end. MC is going to be at a distinct advantage or a disadvantage because his lack of games will make it easier to raise his winning percentage or lower it.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
April 17 2011 00:34 GMT
#224
On April 17 2011 08:56 Whitewing wrote:
Stop trashing NASL over it, players occasionally have problems and can't play, it's not the league's fault.

They're doing everything they can to accommodate the players, and they have literally no control over it.

They even just added in an extra day of lee-way for players. Cut the league some slack, sheesh. So many whiners.


The league should know better to re-re-re accommodate these players that literally are flying over planet earth to play in other tournaments to make a living. Giving walkovers in a small online tourney when players don't show up? Ok, acceptable.

Giving walkovers against high profile players that are traveling, in a tournament that is supposedly trying to make itself more legit as time passes...not the best idea for all parties involved imo, especially NASL. Can only get them more negative press, and it's hard to argue in their defense on this one...

Hopefully they fix these issues and accommodate players further than what they think is sufficient accommodation. I don't watch NASL, but I can't see how this is anything but a let down to fans that are giving NASL a chance and watching it + even paying for it.
Sup
lowkontrast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States855 Posts
April 17 2011 00:35 GMT
#225
On April 17 2011 09:07 WGT-Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 08:47 Bear4188 wrote:
On April 17 2011 08:40 Shana wrote:
On April 17 2011 08:29 Bear4188 wrote:
On April 17 2011 08:27 Shana wrote:
This is why casting from replay is the best for online tournament.


This has nothing to do with the problem of missing a scheduled match. Either way a match time must be set and both players and referees must show up. To make everyone else delay because of the fault of one player is 100% unfair to those who show up.


And being casted from replays means the schedule will be far more flexible for BOTH players. Korean doesn't have to play at 4 am or players with LAN tournament can play before the events started. Games can be played at more appropriate time for both players. Walk-over games can be prevented and it does not make any difference if the game streamed live or casted from replay.


Some games are played early because it's necessary for a player in Korea, a player in Europe, and a referee from the NASL in California to be in the game. Please elaborate on what kind of amazing time bending technology Blizzard has included with their replay feature that is allowing replay casted games to circumvent these inherent problems with international online leagues.


I think what he meant is that if it s casted from a replay the players can talk to each other about a decent time (not 4 am), because at any give time in the world you cannot have more than 12hours between 2 people. Therefore it can be 9am for player A and 9pm for player B and not 10pm-4am (or the like).

obviously one may argue that some players might have a job too and cant play during the day anyways, making such arrangements impossible. I was just developing his opinion, not stating my own


10pm-4am is only 6 hours... lol.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 17 2011 00:38 GMT
#226
Why not just re-match on the weekend ? Or just release the VODs so we all can watch the favorite players
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
April 17 2011 00:41 GMT
#227
On April 17 2011 08:27 Shana wrote:
This is why casting from replay is the best for online tournament.

You're completely right ;\ Notice how there are no walkovers in the TSL? They do it right, and they're much more flexible with the scheduling of when people need to play it seems.
THE ANSWER IS 288
v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 00:45:41
April 17 2011 00:45 GMT
#228
Schedule is set, player can't be there - how is it the fault of the NASL? Just seems like with one more pro league there are more and more overlaps, how is that not common sense? NASL is doing what they can, but if a player accepts the walk over, thats just how it is. Get over it.

When the IGN league is out, I can imagine even more overlaps...
"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 00:46:33
April 17 2011 00:45 GMT
#229
I dont understand why they dont get losses thought... Some of the guys who have to play MC later might as well not show up since MC is so good they will lose anyway but by finding an excuse to not show up they dont get losses. :D
pi_rate_pir_ate
Profile Joined April 2010
United States179 Posts
April 17 2011 00:47 GMT
#230
So they are talking right now like MC is still playing Brat_OK today?
What is?
parkLife
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada125 Posts
April 17 2011 00:49 GMT
#231
People seem to be upset about how NASL didn't reschedule the game. But from my understanding from NASL staff's explanation for White-Ra and Naniwa case, in the event that one player cannot make it in time, it is up to the opponent to decide either to reschedule or to just take the W.O.

So I'm assuming (since I can't be entirely certain) that BratOk chose to take the W.O.
In SC1, ZvZ was Rock-Paper-Scissors... unless JaeDong was playing, then it was Rock-Paper-Scissors-JD, and JD beats all of them.
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
April 17 2011 00:49 GMT
#232
Since this is divisional play and not at knock out stages yet, I don't understand why they don't just play these games on a different day, especially in a case like this one. It could be the next day, as some people have said, or they could designate a day or two at the end of division play for make-up games.

These things do happen in other sports leagues. In the NFL, one of the stadiums was flooded this year, I think it was the Vikings or another northern NFC team. When that happened, they just rescheduled the game, found a different venue (at a college I think) and made it free for anyone who came. The NASL really needs to have a similar policy for unforeseen circumstances. It makes much more sense than a team or a player playing less games than everyone else.
Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
April 17 2011 00:50 GMT
#233
On April 17 2011 09:45 TaKemE wrote:
I dont understand why they dont get losses thought... Some of the guys who have to play MC later might as well not show up since MC is so good they will lose anyway but by finding an excuse to not show up they dont get losses. :D


It's true. People can start abusing this and making excuses to get 0-0 against people they think they'll lose to. It's very unlikely though.
Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
April 17 2011 00:50 GMT
#234
whoever awarded 2 wins to brat against MC should be fired.
if it's team/board of trustees/organization who decided that, then the whole team should be fired and never be allowed to host a tournament again.

how stupid.
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
April 17 2011 00:55 GMT
#235
So one week has passed and 3 games didnt get played, stream is still choppy (framrate is bad and sound is offsync). When will you fix this mess? There are over 50 players streaming at TL in HD everyday without these issues (in terms of stream quality).
Im just a zerg
Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
April 17 2011 00:56 GMT
#236
korean should consider NASL as a joke for disrespect its players, for reasons

1. downplay lag
2. disrespecting players by not accommodating.
sickle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand656 Posts
April 17 2011 00:58 GMT
#237
sigh... i was so looking forward to bratok vs mc
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
April 17 2011 00:58 GMT
#238
Gonna be fun if some not so great player ends up winning the whole thing due to a bunch of WO's :D
Official Fan of; Obama oGs.MC // God of War ST.JulyZerg // d.Naniwa // ST.Squirtle // SlayerS_Alicia // Emperor SlayerS_BoxeR // EG.HuK // White-Ra // MarineKing.Prime.WE // oGs.NaDa's Body // SlayerS.MMA // MvP.DongRaeGu
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
April 17 2011 01:05 GMT
#239
lol :D the 3rd day in a row I'm planning to stay up to watch NASL just to go to bed as soon as I see the best match of the day got a WO.
Fkin hell the 3rd day in a row -.- this tourney is so great... oh wait nvm
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
April 17 2011 01:11 GMT
#240
Laggy stream (EU), best players walkover. Another reason as to why I stick to GSL / TSL / Events. Also less ping influence this way.
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 8m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft565
Nina 267
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 17686
Barracks 1284
ggaemo 1210
Hyun 673
Sacsri 71
Sexy 53
Aegong 48
yabsab 45
firebathero 45
Icarus 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever828
NeuroSwarm151
League of Legends
JimRising 726
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K903
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor150
Other Games
summit1g13793
ViBE159
Mew2King100
Livibee82
kaitlyn45
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 2886
UltimateBattle 222
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 80
• practicex 61
• Sammyuel 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1525
Counter-Strike
• davetesta49
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 8m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
8h 8m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
10h 8m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
Wardi Open
1d 5h
OSC
1d 18h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.