EPTThere seems to be inconsistency if I am reporting this correctly.
Also, if you knew you were going to lose couldn't you just make up an excuse and just not receive the losses potentially? *scratches head*
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
There seems to be inconsistency if I am reporting this correctly. Also, if you knew you were going to lose couldn't you just make up an excuse and just not receive the losses potentially? *scratches head* | ||
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KoshkaTV
United States430 Posts
On April 17 2011 11:47 EnderSword wrote: So like...what's the difference between being given Losses or not? At the end, if he's 6-2 for instance, does that beat someone who was 6-4, or even someone 7-3? Is rank determined by wins, or win %? I agree this makes for much confusion and potential abuse. I wonder if the top players feel that they'll be safe anyways, as well as NASL being a very high game count for them to play.. that they'd rather not expose themselves to - at least while they are still safe from elimination. All the people who have missed, are big money winners... so they can afford to be selective. Making them 0-0, instead of 0-1... just further encourages it for all the reasons stated above. **Overall, NASL is far better than I anticipated.... I think they have a chance to be quite successful. Incontrol has amazing casting potential... the post game interviews are AMAZING!!!!** | ||
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Mitchlew
Australia428 Posts
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On April 17 2011 12:18 Corrik wrote: I am so confused. MC doesn't get a loss but Brat_OK gets 2 wins? Didn't Naniwa not get a loss but his opponent got 1 win? And didn't July get 2 wins and Whitera got the losses? There seems to be inconsistency if I am reporting this correctly. Also, if you knew you were going to lose couldn't you just make up an excuse and just not receive the losses potentially? *scratches head* Korean players are worth 2 wins while foreigners are worth 1!!! | ||
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Avaloch
241 Posts
On April 17 2011 12:18 Corrik wrote: I am so confused. MC doesn't get a loss but Brat_OK gets 2 wins? Didn't Naniwa not get a loss but his opponent got 1 win? And didn't July get 2 wins and Whitera got the losses? There seems to be inconsistency if I am reporting this correctly. Also, if you knew you were going to lose couldn't you just make up an excuse and just not receive the losses potentially? *scratches head* MC didn't get a loss because he contacted NASL to tell them that he cannot play the match because he is stuck in Istanbul. Whitera didn't tell them and was even called and e-mailed but he didn't respond. Therefore he was awarded losses for being MIA. | ||
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Nineteen_
United States34 Posts
 ))) <3 love man | ||
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oGm`REM
United States870 Posts
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RBKeys
Canada196 Posts
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FidoDido
United States1292 Posts
On April 17 2011 04:39 AKspartan wrote: oGsMC should invest in a gaming laptop so he can play his matches at the airport. oGsMC should invest in his own airline so he doesn't get flight delays. On a serious note, I knew this tournament was too good to be true. Online tournament + live stream = lots of hiccups. What they could've done was have the games played on weekdays a week earlier, then streamed it next week and then if there are any problems with players not showing up for a GOOD reason (not sleeping in, etc) they should be allowed to rescheduled to play on the weekend. Actually, this is probably a must for all online tournaments since they are sort of looked down on because of so many factors involving online play (lag, hacks for example). Those people who didn't buy the $25 ticket are probably loling at us subscribers as more W.O.s occur. I am disappoint | ||
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Propane
United States4 Posts
If there are still issues rescheduling for 1 day late I'd like to see make up games take place later in the season whenever both players get some free time. It would probably be pretty easy to just get any trusted person in NASL to observe a makeup game at any time and cast those as replay instead of live like the normally scheduled games. Even if it's not as good as the live commentated games, I'd prefer replay games to walkovers. EDIT: I'd also like to see no shows without contacting NASL take a fine on their deposit, but then have to reschedule with a 1 game penalty instead of a complete walkover. More games is always better than no games. (The fine could even be given to the other player to compensate for their wasted time) | ||
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
On April 17 2011 03:10 Turgid wrote: Omg if there's another walkover... The NASL turns out to become the tournament of walkovers ... and I doubt that is a good thing. I seriously hope they change their casting to casting from replays instead of this rigid way they are doing it now. Three walkovers in one week are unacceptable IMO, thats more than 10% of the games. On April 17 2011 12:18 Corrik wrote: I am so confused. MC doesn't get a loss but Brat_OK gets 2 wins? Didn't Naniwa not get a loss but his opponent got 1 win? And didn't July get 2 wins and Whitera got the losses? There seems to be inconsistency if I am reporting this correctly. Also, if you knew you were going to lose couldn't you just make up an excuse and just not receive the losses potentially? *scratches head* That confusion has to do with the stupid terms the NASL uses for their standings. "Points" is actually the "goal difference" (maps won / lost) and the "real points" is called "record" (and can go negative and I dont think they are thinking about draws). I wish they would change this ASAP to lessen the confusion. So the guys who get the walkover get "+1 record, +2 points" and if the NASL feels they are to blame for the games loss or if outside forces made it impossible the loser doesnt get anything negative, but if they think the loser in that matchup is to blame he gets "-1 record, -2 points". | ||
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drox22
129 Posts
On April 17 2011 11:48 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: What are you talking about? Yes he let them know, but what he let them know is that his plane was delayed and that he wouldn't make the scheduled time to play his match. When you're organizing a huge tournament you cannot make scheduling changes at the drop of a hat, it does not work. How is it bad decision making? I really don't understand why so many people are faulting NASL for something out of their control. Explain why it's impossible for them to reschedule the game for tomorrow and cast the games of replays and upload it to youtube. No problem at all, a 3 year old could do that. | ||
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On April 17 2011 05:02 Parnage wrote: Some of things I've read in this make me want to slam my head into my desk a few times. Seriously, every NASL thread seems to devolve into "NASL needs to do better and.. umm control everything!" The players signed a contract, they didn't show or in this case they where unable to show due to most likely an Act of God due to weather causing a flight delay. The NASL works on a tight broadcasting schedule trying to give a lot of great games in a short amount of time ie casting/recording the day before broadcast(2 days as of next week if I am reading the rescheduling right). What do you expect them to do? Seriously, they don't employ a wizard to control everything to work out perfectly bad luck happens. Stop blaming NASL for it. It's childish as best and at worst it's just.. unfathomably foolish. It's not foolish if you've bought a 25$ ticket and not getting to see the games you expected to see. | ||
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toasti0
Australia22 Posts
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Tracedragon
United States948 Posts
This isn't looking too good for NASL... | ||
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Zinthar
United States394 Posts
They really need to do something about their schedule issues. Perhaps they should do what the TSL3 is doing and just cast the replays, letting the players (along with one or two ref watchers, who obviously don't have to be Gretorp/InControl/etc.) play them at their convenience within a certain flexible timespan. Defending NASL because they set out to do something absurdly challenging and have failed is foolish. They shouldn't be surprised that these issues come up. It's the responsibility of the league (if they want to be successful) to serve the fans, and it's clear that they need to come up with a more flexible format. They can still broadcast 5 games per night, but they might need to have the actual games played up to a week prior to broadcast. TSL3 does this and results haven't been leaked. Also, this would allow the casts to actually be live, if NASL desires. Also, 3 forfeited matches is kind of unacceptable. While NASL is fixing these other issues, they should probably try to find a way to get the 3 forfeited matches played (since they never would have been forfeited if NASL hadn't tried to force players to play games around Dreamhack). | ||
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Wiiaboo
Canada44 Posts
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
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raist
Canada90 Posts
We've all asked for the top foreigners to play in this league and now it is biting us in the ass. I don't understand why so many people want the NASL to fail just so they can point a finger and laugh, then move on to QQ'ing about some other topics that don't meet everyones personal expectations. Ah well, live and learn.. we are only 4 days in | ||
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