• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:24
CEST 16:24
KST 23:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 292Serral wins Maestros of the Game 240ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29 Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) What is your PC setup in 2026 for SCBW/SC2 ? Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026
Tourneys
GSL CK #5 Race War WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4564 users

oGsMC - NASL - Plane Delayed - Page 20

Forum Index > Community News and Headlines
393 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 18 19 20 All
mrjpark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States276 Posts
April 19 2011 20:45 GMT
#381
On April 19 2011 13:44 human_ko wrote:
So when mc cant participate coz of delayed plane he plays with bratok next time, but when whitera was on a big tourney and could not participate, july doesn't accept the delay. weird huh? do we respect those koreans after this.. ?


So...JulyZerg wakes up at 4 AM and waits for 4 hours before he's told of the situation and takes the win, so he's a chump. MC says in his Twitter that he's at the airport and the flight's delayed, so he can't play. He specifically says "If my opponent's staying up to play me, please go to sleep and take the win, yadda yadda yadda, I hope you enjoy the rest of your night." I think both of them were fine here. Also, WhiteRa knew he had a match but didn't bother to keep in touch with the admins, making his opponent wait for 4 hours w/out any knowledge of whether or not he was actually going to play. He could've taken the win at 5 AM and just gone back to sleep, but chose to stay up and wait to see if WhiteRa would show up. I don't see how the Koreans were in the wrong here...nor do I see how these two instances can even be compared.
human_ko
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation676 Posts
April 20 2011 05:04 GMT
#382
On April 20 2011 05:45 mrjpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 13:44 human_ko wrote:
So when mc cant participate coz of delayed plane he plays with bratok next time, but when whitera was on a big tourney and could not participate, july doesn't accept the delay. weird huh? do we respect those koreans after this.. ?


So...JulyZerg wakes up at 4 AM and waits for 4 hours before he's told of the situation and takes the win, so he's a chump. MC says in his Twitter that he's at the airport and the flight's delayed, so he can't play. He specifically says "If my opponent's staying up to play me, please go to sleep and take the win, yadda yadda yadda, I hope you enjoy the rest of your night." I think both of them were fine here. Also, WhiteRa knew he had a match but didn't bother to keep in touch with the admins, making his opponent wait for 4 hours w/out any knowledge of whether or not he was actually going to play. He could've taken the win at 5 AM and just gone back to sleep, but chose to stay up and wait to see if WhiteRa would show up. I don't see how the Koreans were in the wrong here...nor do I see how these two instances can even be compared.


sorry I didn't know July waited for that long and wasn't informed, I think its fine to take a freewin after a sleepless night.
WOrd, yo.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 20 2011 08:10 GMT
#383
I looked at one of his tweets as well on the topic, and this is what I got on the translator:

[image loading]

I Only understood his plane was delayed by the wind (understandable). I don't get what a plane from Iran has to do with it. Anyone else have better explanation?
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 09:34:32
April 20 2011 09:31 GMT
#384
On April 20 2011 17:10 DarkCore wrote:
I looked at one of his tweets as well on the topic, and this is what I got on the translator:

[image loading]

I Only understood his plane was delayed by the wind (understandable). I don't get what a plane from Iran has to do with it. Anyone else have better explanation?

"If there's anybody waiting to see my NASL games this week, I suggest going to sleep~ My flight got delayed so my opponent got a free win. The NASL, understanding that this was because of my flight being delayed, did not count it as a loss on my record hehe. Have a good night."
That or the message is directed towards his opponent, in which case he's telling his opponent to go to sleep instead of waiting due to his flight being delayed, and that he's getting a free win etc
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
April 20 2011 14:11 GMT
#385
-_- damn, they should just pp the matches. Would love to see this MU.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
April 20 2011 16:52 GMT
#386
I think everyone wouldn't be so up in arms if these were just forfeits by lesser tier players. However, these matches canceled have been pretty much the top matches of the night. = /
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 17:29:29
April 20 2011 17:19 GMT
#387
On April 20 2011 05:45 mrjpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 13:44 human_ko wrote:
So when mc cant participate coz of delayed plane he plays with bratok next time, but when whitera was on a big tourney and could not participate, july doesn't accept the delay. weird huh? do we respect those koreans after this.. ?


So...JulyZerg wakes up at 4 AM and waits for 4 hours before he's told of the situation and takes the win, so he's a chump. MC says in his Twitter that he's at the airport and the flight's delayed, so he can't play. He specifically says "If my opponent's staying up to play me, please go to sleep and take the win, yadda yadda yadda, I hope you enjoy the rest of your night." I think both of them were fine here. Also, WhiteRa knew he had a match but didn't bother to keep in touch with the admins, making his opponent wait for 4 hours w/out any knowledge of whether or not he was actually going to play. He could've taken the win at 5 AM and just gone back to sleep, but chose to stay up and wait to see if WhiteRa would show up. I don't see how the Koreans were in the wrong here...nor do I see how these two instances can even be compared.


These 2 instances can be compared quite easily. White-Ra didn't show up for his match because of Dreamhack if I'm not mistaken. He prioritized that over actually playing his match, so he forfeited and got 2 losses. I'm going to assume MC was out of Korea because of a tournament as well. The plane got delayed and he missed his match. MC prioritized another tournament over the NASL and he got 0 losses. Am I saying he shouldn't compete in other tournaments at all? No, I'm not, but he should still be held responsible for not making it to the match.

This is akin to me being late to a big meeting at the office and calling my boss saying "I'm going to be 15 minutes late because of traffic." Whose fault is it? It's my fault. I should've accounted for the possibility of traffic. I should have left earlier from my house to make it to the office and I didn't. The same thing happened here. MC could have either left later from wherever he was or left earlier (if at all possible).

NASL has failed on two fronts here. They failed in the scheduling by not loosening it up a bit. NASL has Sunday and Monday to make up for missed games. They should use those two days whenever possible and whenever needed. And they have also failed in the execution of a good system that punishes players for not making their matches. Frankly, I think it's bullshit that White-Ra got 2 losses (-2) while Naniwa and MC didn't lose points.

Edit - Looking at the actual points just annoyed me even more (edited the first post to reflect this). I just noticed MC AND Naniwa have 0 points, while White-Ra has -2. Wtf is that NASL? This system is stupid as hell. It's punishing players for losing their games, while rewarding those players that couldn't make it to games except for White-Ra.

Naniwa is 6th in his group. He should be tied for 10th with Haypro.
MC is 6th in his group. He should be tied for 10th with Ret.
White-Ra is tied for 10th in his group.

I see something totally messed up there.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Hammurabio
Profile Joined August 2010
152 Posts
April 21 2011 15:15 GMT
#388
On April 21 2011 02:19 Joementum wrote:
Edit - Looking at the actual points just annoyed me even more (edited the first post to reflect this). I just noticed MC AND Naniwa have 0 points, while White-Ra has -2. Wtf is that NASL? This system is stupid as hell. It's punishing players for losing their games, while rewarding those players that couldn't make it to games except for White-Ra.


Note that Brat_OK and Strelok also have 0 points. They both won by forfeit, yet are tied with their walkover opponents.
GreenSamo
Profile Joined June 2010
United States13 Posts
April 21 2011 18:27 GMT
#389
As long as NASL continues their live casts, I cannot see them having makeup's. It would require their entire crew, camera setups, casters, director, video encoding, editors, etc all to come in for 1-2 matches, that the players have known the times their matches are schedule for weeks now. Not going to happen. This is especially shown with the win/loss' they've given. It shows that they're 0 tolerance. If they let MC makeup his match this early in the tournament, anyone later on could claim to have schedueling issues due to planes/trains/automobiles, and point at the one makeup they previously allowed as a reason as to why they too should be allowed a makeup match, potentially costing NASL a lot of time and money. In my opinion, White-Ra is lucky he wasn't fined for his no show. (Or was he? No one has commented so I don't think he has been.)
Flash_one
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)27 Posts
May 02 2011 06:44 GMT
#390
yeah
Wassssabe~
Allied
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States129 Posts
May 10 2011 03:18 GMT
#391
oh wow
twitter: @AlliieD
PET
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania430 Posts
June 06 2011 02:15 GMT
#392
What's wrong with people? Why do they bump old topics like this one?

User was warned for this post
www.GamerPET.com
office2010user1
Profile Joined June 2011
3 Posts
June 09 2011 05:53 GMT
#393
--- Nuked ---
ePAttack
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
June 12 2011 05:45 GMT
#394
Bummed MC didn't get to play in the NASL but I'm glad they didn't give him 2 free losses.

NASL did a great job taking care of this whole situation. Props to them!

Prev 1 18 19 20 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
11:00
GSL CK #5 - Day 2
Armani vs ZounLIVE!
Ryung 353
Classic173
herO (SOOP)139
CranKy Ducklings SOOP139
SHIN 118
Maru105
ByuN (SOOP)72
Rogue64
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 353
LamboSC2 346
Classic 173
herO (SOOP) 139
SHIN 118
Maru 105
ByuN (SOOP) 72
Rogue 64
Rex 38
RushiSC 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 28540
Bisu 3220
Rain 2796
actioN 1538
Jaedong 1039
Shuttle 873
Horang2 854
EffOrt 814
Zeus 708
Mini 589
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 460
firebathero 409
BeSt 390
Light 350
Hyuk 347
Larva 255
ggaemo 235
Snow 226
Stork 201
Killer 100
Pusan 86
Rush 64
[sc1f]eonzerg 57
Free 53
Sharp 47
soO 44
ToSsGirL 42
Hyun 42
sorry 30
910 27
scan(afreeca) 26
Aegong 24
JYJ 19
Bale 19
yabsab 18
HiyA 17
Terrorterran 14
Movie 14
Sexy 13
GoRush 12
Hm[arnc] 11
Shine 10
IntoTheRainbow 10
Icarus 5
Dota 2
qojqva1772
XaKoH 716
420jenkins42
Counter-Strike
byalli309
edward24
Other Games
hiko741
FrodaN730
B2W.Neo473
Lowko453
crisheroes293
Hui .188
Liquid`VortiX159
Livibee65
Organizations
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 1381
Other Games
BasetradeTV243
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 5
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 12
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3187
• TFBlade955
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 36m
Replay Cast
9h 36m
WardiTV Weekly
20h 36m
The PondCast
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
IPSL
5 days
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
IPSL
6 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.