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On April 19 2011 13:44 human_ko wrote:
So when mc cant participate coz of delayed plane he plays with bratok next time, but when whitera was on a big tourney and could not participate, july doesn't accept the delay. weird huh? do we respect those koreans after this.. ?
So...JulyZerg wakes up at 4 AM and waits for 4 hours before he's told of the situation and takes the win, so he's a chump. MC says in his Twitter that he's at the airport and the flight's delayed, so he can't play. He specifically says "If my opponent's staying up to play me, please go to sleep and take the win, yadda yadda yadda, I hope you enjoy the rest of your night." I think both of them were fine here. Also, WhiteRa knew he had a match but didn't bother to keep in touch with the admins, making his opponent wait for 4 hours w/out any knowledge of whether or not he was actually going to play. He could've taken the win at 5 AM and just gone back to sleep, but chose to stay up and wait to see if WhiteRa would show up. I don't see how the Koreans were in the wrong here...nor do I see how these two instances can even be compared.
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Russian Federation676 Posts
On April 20 2011 05:45 mrjpark wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 13:44 human_ko wrote:
So when mc cant participate coz of delayed plane he plays with bratok next time, but when whitera was on a big tourney and could not participate, july doesn't accept the delay. weird huh? do we respect those koreans after this.. ? So...JulyZerg wakes up at 4 AM and waits for 4 hours before he's told of the situation and takes the win, so he's a chump. MC says in his Twitter that he's at the airport and the flight's delayed, so he can't play. He specifically says "If my opponent's staying up to play me, please go to sleep and take the win, yadda yadda yadda, I hope you enjoy the rest of your night." I think both of them were fine here. Also, WhiteRa knew he had a match but didn't bother to keep in touch with the admins, making his opponent wait for 4 hours w/out any knowledge of whether or not he was actually going to play. He could've taken the win at 5 AM and just gone back to sleep, but chose to stay up and wait to see if WhiteRa would show up. I don't see how the Koreans were in the wrong here...nor do I see how these two instances can even be compared.
sorry I didn't know July waited for that long and wasn't informed, I think its fine to take a freewin after a sleepless night.
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I looked at one of his tweets as well on the topic, and this is what I got on the translator:
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I Only understood his plane was delayed by the wind (understandable). I don't get what a plane from Iran has to do with it. Anyone else have better explanation?
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mrmin123
Korea (South)2971 Posts
On April 20 2011 17:10 DarkCore wrote:I looked at one of his tweets as well on the topic, and this is what I got on the translator: I Only understood his plane was delayed by the wind (understandable). I don't get what a plane from Iran has to do with it. Anyone else have better explanation?
"If there's anybody waiting to see my NASL games this week, I suggest going to sleep~ My flight got delayed so my opponent got a free win. The NASL, understanding that this was because of my flight being delayed, did not count it as a loss on my record hehe. Have a good night."
That or the message is directed towards his opponent, in which case he's telling his opponent to go to sleep instead of waiting due to his flight being delayed, and that he's getting a free win etc
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-_- damn, they should just pp the matches. Would love to see this MU.
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I think everyone wouldn't be so up in arms if these were just forfeits by lesser tier players. However, these matches canceled have been pretty much the top matches of the night. = /
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On April 20 2011 05:45 mrjpark wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 13:44 human_ko wrote:
So when mc cant participate coz of delayed plane he plays with bratok next time, but when whitera was on a big tourney and could not participate, july doesn't accept the delay. weird huh? do we respect those koreans after this.. ? So...JulyZerg wakes up at 4 AM and waits for 4 hours before he's told of the situation and takes the win, so he's a chump. MC says in his Twitter that he's at the airport and the flight's delayed, so he can't play. He specifically says "If my opponent's staying up to play me, please go to sleep and take the win, yadda yadda yadda, I hope you enjoy the rest of your night." I think both of them were fine here. Also, WhiteRa knew he had a match but didn't bother to keep in touch with the admins, making his opponent wait for 4 hours w/out any knowledge of whether or not he was actually going to play. He could've taken the win at 5 AM and just gone back to sleep, but chose to stay up and wait to see if WhiteRa would show up. I don't see how the Koreans were in the wrong here...nor do I see how these two instances can even be compared.
These 2 instances can be compared quite easily. White-Ra didn't show up for his match because of Dreamhack if I'm not mistaken. He prioritized that over actually playing his match, so he forfeited and got 2 losses. I'm going to assume MC was out of Korea because of a tournament as well. The plane got delayed and he missed his match. MC prioritized another tournament over the NASL and he got 0 losses. Am I saying he shouldn't compete in other tournaments at all? No, I'm not, but he should still be held responsible for not making it to the match.
This is akin to me being late to a big meeting at the office and calling my boss saying "I'm going to be 15 minutes late because of traffic." Whose fault is it? It's my fault. I should've accounted for the possibility of traffic. I should have left earlier from my house to make it to the office and I didn't. The same thing happened here. MC could have either left later from wherever he was or left earlier (if at all possible).
NASL has failed on two fronts here. They failed in the scheduling by not loosening it up a bit. NASL has Sunday and Monday to make up for missed games. They should use those two days whenever possible and whenever needed. And they have also failed in the execution of a good system that punishes players for not making their matches. Frankly, I think it's bullshit that White-Ra got 2 losses (-2) while Naniwa and MC didn't lose points.
Edit - Looking at the actual points just annoyed me even more (edited the first post to reflect this). I just noticed MC AND Naniwa have 0 points, while White-Ra has -2. Wtf is that NASL? This system is stupid as hell. It's punishing players for losing their games, while rewarding those players that couldn't make it to games except for White-Ra.
Naniwa is 6th in his group. He should be tied for 10th with Haypro.
MC is 6th in his group. He should be tied for 10th with Ret.
White-Ra is tied for 10th in his group.
I see something totally messed up there.
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On April 21 2011 02:19 Joementum wrote:
Edit - Looking at the actual points just annoyed me even more (edited the first post to reflect this). I just noticed MC AND Naniwa have 0 points, while White-Ra has -2. Wtf is that NASL? This system is stupid as hell. It's punishing players for losing their games, while rewarding those players that couldn't make it to games except for White-Ra.
Note that Brat_OK and Strelok also have 0 points. They both won by forfeit, yet are tied with their walkover opponents.
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As long as NASL continues their live casts, I cannot see them having makeup's. It would require their entire crew, camera setups, casters, director, video encoding, editors, etc all to come in for 1-2 matches, that the players have known the times their matches are schedule for weeks now. Not going to happen. This is especially shown with the win/loss' they've given. It shows that they're 0 tolerance. If they let MC makeup his match this early in the tournament, anyone later on could claim to have schedueling issues due to planes/trains/automobiles, and point at the one makeup they previously allowed as a reason as to why they too should be allowed a makeup match, potentially costing NASL a lot of time and money. In my opinion, White-Ra is lucky he wasn't fined for his no show. (Or was he? No one has commented so I don't think he has been.)
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What's wrong with people? Why do they bump old topics like this one? 
User was warned for this post
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Bummed MC didn't get to play in the NASL but I'm glad they didn't give him 2 free losses.
NASL did a great job taking care of this whole situation. Props to them!
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