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bradfield
Profile Joined April 2011
Belize23 Posts
April 18 2011 05:40 GMT
#361
I thought the NASL would be played on a studio in America, and ppl would have to go be there to play in it.
Even with less star players, i think the tournament would be more exciting.
quote?
Skrelt
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands306 Posts
April 18 2011 07:17 GMT
#362
On April 17 2011 03:16 starcraft911 wrote:
I'm going to beat my cat SOOOOOOOO bad if MC gets a walkover... 3 days in a row the best matches don't happen. WTF is going on... I have to go find my cat...

User was temp banned for this post.

I think you put it kinda strange

but i agree with you. It is not good for the spectators that the best matches get canceled. OFC the NASL cant do shit about this but that doesnt mean it is good for the viewers. And ofc there is alot to watch but when you cheer for some of your favorit players the "others" just wont do.
The Wolfpack - Metalband from the Netherlands
D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
April 18 2011 08:31 GMT
#363
I haven't been keeping up with the NASL as much as I could have been(real life gets in the way), but I have to agree that if the event isn't truly "live", then a lot could have been done towards buffering games - even though they'd be cast as replay files.

As we know, the games themselves are not live, but the stream is. Hence we're seeing, in a sense, a "replay" anyways. Given that, why not just go with commentating straight replays? I do believe that just casting the replays themselves, conceals the lag window(for good or ill).

Because if I was MC, and I finally arrive in NA - with no games to play due to a circumstance beyond my control - what now? Yes I'm sure NASL wasn't his only event, but still.
Canada
Dakk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden572 Posts
April 18 2011 09:10 GMT
#364
On April 17 2011 03:12 ZAiNs wrote:
These NASL free-wins are clearly part of a conspiracy to knock out all the big Protoss players.

Right on! I think you're on to something here! I big hidden conspiracy to overthrow the protoss's kingdom!
I will not fear, Fear is the mindkiller. Fear is the little death.
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
April 18 2011 15:08 GMT
#365
Bleh, the professionalism of these players is going to hurt the sport.

MC, I dont mind too much, delayed plane isn't his fault, but he should of scheduled himself a bigger buffer.

You can complain all you want that they (white-ra, mc, and the more to come)had schedule conflicts but thats their fault. They signed up for this league knowing that theyd have games to play every week on a tight schedule and were expected to show. On the other hand instead of picking and choosing tournaments that didnt interfere with each other, like a true professional, they're just playing the field willing to drop for whatever sounds like easier money.

I would not be surprised to see a lot of people drop out when this hits the play at the studio stage, screwing up the brackets hard.
DuneBug
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
April 18 2011 16:28 GMT
#366
seriously its week1 and two of the game walkovers were because of dreamhack.

yes nasl ought to have more flexible scheduling since it's not actually a live broadcast. I don't really know why they're not doing replay casting. I don't know why they're doing a lot of things ( map choice, 'when cheese goes wrong' )
TIME TO SAY GOODNIGHT BRO!
Dyspathy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States83 Posts
April 18 2011 23:45 GMT
#367
I really think that NASL season 2 would benefit by adding a make-up match week in week 10 of the season.
dark0dave
Profile Joined November 2010
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 00:51:12
April 19 2011 00:50 GMT
#368
On April 17 2011 03:12 ZAiNs wrote:
These NASL free-wins are clearly part of a conspiracy to knock out all the big Protoss players.

trolololol?


User was warned for this post
What is dead may never die. BW forever.
ipx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia34 Posts
April 19 2011 04:39 GMT
#369
Isn't it an online match? Couldn't he have just stayed where he was walked into a net cafe and played? Not that hard....

On another note NASL doesn't need any foreign players to be good, you don't even need massive amounts of money. You need ENTERTAINMENT.

Having combat-ex playing tearing up after getting his cheese rolled that is entertaining. Having grudge matches and rivalries and seeing people rage live or even online. Heart and passion is what makes good competition.

My favourite streamed game was the Destiny showmatch which he got rolled in with his baby mamma calling him over and over whilst he was playing. You could just tell the guy was going to lose his mind any second it was so tense.

Even get pre match skype interviews like boxing - Idra would be amaaaazing. You can even ignore what the Koreans say just make it up. Develop you're own language and culture like GSL has done for example "tasteless secret hallway" and "casting archon" that sort of stuff is fantastic as it makes your competition memorable.

Forfeits aren't entertaining...
human_ko
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation676 Posts
April 19 2011 04:44 GMT
#370
So when mc cant participate coz of delayed plane he plays with bratok next time, but when whitera was on a big tourney and could not participate, july doesn't accept the delay. weird huh? do we respect those koreans after this.. ?
WOrd, yo.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 05:34:52
April 19 2011 05:33 GMT
#371
On April 19 2011 13:44 human_ko wrote:
So when mc cant participate coz of delayed plane he plays with bratok next time, but when whitera was on a big tourney and could not participate, july doesn't accept the delay. weird huh? do we respect those koreans after this.. ?


Oh come on. You can't generalize them all because of one person. Naniwa was incredibly BM and Swedish, that must mean Jinro, being Swedish, is incredibly BM too right?

July wanted a free win. That doesn't mean MC, Boxer, etc will do the same.
wat
shabinka
Profile Joined October 2008
United States469 Posts
April 19 2011 06:03 GMT
#372
With all these players needing to reschedule they could have makeup games.
Brown Boy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada39 Posts
April 19 2011 06:27 GMT
#373
On April 19 2011 13:44 human_ko wrote:
So when mc cant participate coz of delayed plane he plays with bratok next time, but when whitera was on a big tourney and could not participate, july doesn't accept the delay. weird huh? do we respect those koreans after this.. ?


You do realize that July waited for White-Ra for 4 hours from 4am to 8am. I think that deserves quite a bit of respect. If July wanted he could have just taken the auto win after 45 minutes like the rules state for NASL but he decided to wait for his opponent.

Both situations were handled similarly by giving the auto win. Only difference is that MC wasn't given any losses because he got in contact with NASL and told them about his situation.
Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
April 19 2011 07:11 GMT
#374
On April 19 2011 13:44 human_ko wrote:
So when mc cant participate coz of delayed plane he plays with bratok next time, but when whitera was on a big tourney and could not participate, july doesn't accept the delay. weird huh? do we respect those koreans after this.. ?

Yeah i can't respect any Koreans ever because of what July did, because I'm a racist just like you.

Also I'll ignore the fact WhiteRa went out drinking to skip the match and didn't inform anyone.
Gargara
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania150 Posts
April 19 2011 09:40 GMT
#375
Seems this league is a bit out oFcontrol...
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 19 2011 11:54 GMT
#376
On April 19 2011 13:39 ipx wrote:
Isn't it an online match? Couldn't he have just stayed where he was walked into a net cafe and played? Not that hard....

On another note NASL doesn't need any foreign players to be good, you don't even need massive amounts of money. You need ENTERTAINMENT.

Having combat-ex playing tearing up after getting his cheese rolled that is entertaining. Having grudge matches and rivalries and seeing people rage live or even online. Heart and passion is what makes good competition.

My favourite streamed game was the Destiny showmatch which he got rolled in with his baby mamma calling him over and over whilst he was playing. You could just tell the guy was going to lose his mind any second it was so tense.

Even get pre match skype interviews like boxing - Idra would be amaaaazing. You can even ignore what the Koreans say just make it up. Develop you're own language and culture like GSL has done for example "tasteless secret hallway" and "casting archon" that sort of stuff is fantastic as it makes your competition memorable.

Forfeits aren't entertaining...

And the person that pays for his ticket back from Turkey to Korea when he misses his plane because he stayed in turkey and played from a netcafe is........ who? NASL?
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ipx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia34 Posts
April 19 2011 12:35 GMT
#377
And the person that pays for his ticket back from Turkey to Korea when he misses his plane because he stayed in turkey and played from a netcafe is........ who? NASL?


I guess no one has explained the details properly to me so was he in the air or close to boarding at the time the game was scheduled? In that case its totally different. From the way it was described in the OP I figured the plane was delayed so he was waiting around the airport when he could have turned up and 4 gated.

If he's in the air then that's just bad luck i guess.

He should still get the losses though. You're just inviting gaming the system by doing this. Hell idra will be coming up with every excuse possible for every ZvP he needs to play if that's the case.
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 18:27:13
April 19 2011 18:14 GMT
#378
Wait, what? White-Ra gets losses, but MC gets no losses because he "contacted" the NASL? Who cares if he did? They know the schedule they had to keep, therefore they should be responsible. This is like saying "Little Johnny didn't know stealing was wrong, so we're going to let him go this time." I don't want to say that it seems like NASL is playing favorites, but that's really the only reasoning behind this. I hope it's not the case or this league is doomed for failure. Every one should be treated equally. If you're going to give White-Ra the losses, MC should get them too. It's not like the losses would do anything to MC anyway. He's probably going to win every other game, so give him the losses, treat him equally and don't bend the rules.

Sorry if I'm understanding his wrong. I read the first 4 pages and no one has a clear idea of what happened, so this is just what I'm gathering from the first post.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
roflwaffles55
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada59 Posts
April 19 2011 18:18 GMT
#379
Awww! I was so psyched to see this game!!
NfinITE
Hammurabio
Profile Joined August 2010
152 Posts
April 19 2011 18:59 GMT
#380
On April 17 2011 03:08 Axel.Bowex wrote:
From the tweets of oGsMC, it is confirmed that Brat_OK will receive 2 wins, 0 losses. However, because he informed NASL of this situation, he will not be charged with losses. Therefore, he is still at 0 wins, and 0 losses.


The NASL website shows Brat_OK at 1-0 and MC at 0-1. I thought that MC wasn't getting a loss for this? And the "score" column has them both at zero points. Brat should have 2 points for going 2-0.

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