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On February 25 2011 20:40 hifriend wrote:It's understandable that kespa and their partners wish to use anything they can to gain leverage. The fans are getting fucked obviously but in the kespa/blizzard conflict it has become pretty apparent how neither really gives a shit about the fans anyway. Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 20:37 gregnog wrote:
Kespa has clearly been in the wrong for a long period of time. There is absolutely no question about it. Blizzard is in the right, they warned Kespa numerous times over a long period of time.
Only problem is this is now effecting competitive tournaments.
Honestly guys though, think about it, who really cares about WCG? They had a reality show with random nonames playing mario kart and dance dance. They make terrible decisions, pick bad citys, and haven't been the big name in E-Sports since CS died.
With NASL and MLG, maybe it would be good to see WCG just bite the dust finally and some of those sponsors can fan out to other more worthy organizations. When did CS die? O_O
It's not dead, but it is dying.
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How the fuck Samsungs gets to decide that wc3 can't be played?!?!? Kespa doesn't seem to give a shit about wc3.... For fucking sake...
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I see that Activision/Blizzard is owned by Vivendi, some French conglomerate that isn't even close to the size of Samsung (the world's largest private corporation). Why doesn't Samsung just do a corporate takeover of that shit, and not have to deal with this IP rights garbage?
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The way I see it Samsung is not very happy to pay Blizzard the rights and also promote their games, by including them in a big event like WCG. Unfortunately Blizzard have all the rights and if Samsung want to profit from WCG they have to pay the royalties to the game creators. I still don't see why Blizzard are the bad guys. They just don't want people to start organizing events and profit from their work.
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On February 25 2011 20:42 Icx wrote:
I haven't been to fond off the wcg myself, I have actually mainly watched for other games in the past, and even then the tournaments were run at a mediocre level.
So the following options
1) They don't run blizzard games, their image gets even worse and they start dying a slow death, they have been in a bit of a "slump" for a while now, and if this happens they will mainly be some sort of weird "show off samsung stuff event"
2) They run blizzard games against samsung's will, and then samsung may stop sponsering them, and it's probably gonna be lights out for them, I don't see any sponsor as big as samsung jumping in to sponsor a poorly run event like this, at this point the only value I see in the wcg is the name off it, and the sort off media it got in the more mainstream media for being the olympics off gaming
3) Samsung and wcg come to an agreement to run the games anyway, but then you have trouble with broadcasts etc.
Whatever happens, I just dont see how wcg can come out of this in a good way, and it's another hit again on their image.
ppl will still watch Counter Strike <3
and of course League of Legends <3
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On February 25 2011 19:56 yammeR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 19:20 Milkyst wrote:On February 25 2011 16:56 TheOnly92 wrote:
This is just ridiculous, the corporate world is trying to destroy everything! Simply quite speechless about all of their actions, afterall what ogn does is promoting BW, why is Blizzard suing anyway? ogn promotes BW, but is also making money off Blizzard's game. Blizzard wants money. I thought Blizzard was only asking for 1 dollar a year or something ridiculous like that? But that might just be hear say. Anyways I thought it wasn't about money but that Blizzard wanted OGN to recognize that everything they're making money off of is technically intellectual property of Blizzard.
nope
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Netherlands45349 Posts
I get why they are doing this, seeing as they don't want any more lawsuit trouble.
Due note that WCG wants Blizzard games(hell, theyl lose spectatorship if not) however Samsung does not. Samsung is their main sponsor and if they pull out there won't be a WCG at all. I understand why Samsuing is doing this with all of the lawsuit trouble they can run into it and I applaud them for making a stand. However this will sadly hurt the viewers.
Also, if you really want to read up on what is really happening into Kespa V blizzard check out this thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188322
Don't derail this though if possible 
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It's amazing yet sad at the same time that Blizzard rts games (bw/sc2/wc3) are the main e-sports games in the world followed by perhaps cs. WCG/Samsung excluding all Activision Blizzard games at WCG which is arguably the 3 most popular e-sports games in history. Which means the majority of viewers are already going to stop watching means less advertisement for the sponsors and the organisation than they arguably already have. Seems like they would rather let WCG fall than to surrender to Activision Blizzard in a matter of speaking.
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WCG without SC2 and WC3!?
NO WAY iam gonna watch it then.
Blizzard games = e-sport
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Sweden33719 Posts
On February 25 2011 21:01 Inex wrote:
The way I see it Samsung is not very happy to pay Blizzard the rights and also promote their games, by including them in a big event like WCG. Unfortunately Blizzard have all the rights and if Samsung want to profit from WCG they have to pay the royalties to the game creators. I still don't see why Blizzard are the bad guys. They just don't want people to start organizing events and profit from their work.
Thats pretty much why they are the bad guys?
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Sad if this came true 
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On February 25 2011 21:31 Morta wrote:
WCG without SC2 and WC3!?
NO WAY iam gonna watch it then.
Blizzard games = e-sport
I'm guessing this will be the last year of WCG if there won't be any blizzard games hosted. The viewing numbers will be too low compared to other years.
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On February 25 2011 21:44 Valikyr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 21:31 Morta wrote:
WCG without SC2 and WC3!?
NO WAY iam gonna watch it then.
Blizzard games = e-sport
I'm guessing this will be the last year of WCG if there won't be any blizzard games hosted. The viewing numbers will be too low compared to other years.
Definetly!
I mean,CS,CSS and all those games aren't bad games but SC2 is THE game at the moment and nearly everyone who is interested in e-sport want's to see the best players in the world competing in Blizzard's RTS games.
The number of viewers will drop rapidly when theres no WC3,SC2,SC1.
I'am really sad at the moment cause i always loved the WCG,i mean who didn't love it. ^^
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the live audiance in wcg chengdu 2009 was the most impressive thing I've ever seen live in e-sports, would be so sad to host wcg without blizz games ;(, certainly if its china, they love rts !_o
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Coincidence, I'm about to buy a 40+ inch tv this week and the choice for me was Philips or Samsung. This makes my decision very easy, not that it matters anyway. Looking now at my Samsung monitor makes me wanna puke.
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I think its Activision Blizzard's fault, being greedy bu tho Samsung is no better either.
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This is just another plot by Samsung to get more cell phone games in WCG, so Stork can actually win a gold.
But in all seriousness, foreign BW scene is dead, so there's no point to having that again, and Blizzard/GomTV already have a ton of Starcraft 2 leagues planned (including a world championship tournament I think), so they are unlikely to support WCG SC2, not that we'd miss much anyways. I think there are already enough tournaments.
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I love Samsung KHAN even more now. WCG sucks anyway so I dont really care about SC (yay koreans stomp everyone + no streams ) or any other game anymore.Show Blizzard whos boss if they want to kill of BW then Samsung will do this.
In ideal scenario Blizzard would drop the IP rights shenanigans and leave BW going its natural course and SC2 will still be more popular (outside Korea ).
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On February 25 2011 20:39 HeIios wrote:Why oh why does a sponsor interefere this much? Makes me percieve my samsung tv and monitor differently, seems like every company is run by complete bell-ends... and the ones who end up suffering is the players and the fans. DAMNIT!! Show nested quote +With NASL and MLG, maybe it would be good to see WCG just bite the dust finally and some of those sponsors can fan out to other more worthy organizations. What the heck? WCG is the olympics of ESPORTS. So fun to follow your country in the world wide scene.
if WCG would be the olympics of e sports, then it would only be held every 4 years.
side note:
how much had teamliquid to pay to blizzard for being allowed to host the TSL3?
just want to know of which numbers we are speaking...
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Does Samsung realize that sc:bw is a blizzard game?XD Also a WCG without blizz games, do not want.
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