EPTThe stream itself atleast gives no proof about that.
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Tierfight
Belgium49 Posts
The stream itself atleast gives no proof about that. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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diesirae
United States37 Posts
On February 22 2011 12:13 dmillz wrote: 2.5 times the price for 3 times as much content...yes that sounds way more expensive. </endsarcasm> stop bashing it before you even give it a chance, watch some of the games THEN decide if its worth it, That's part of my point, I can't even give it a chance without access to VODs, I don't have time to be sitting through all the delays and bullshit that goes on during a live stream, if they're even broadcasting it while I'm not at work or class. If these morons had any semblance of long term business strategy they would not be charging such a ridiculous fee. If you're trying to grow the game as a spectator sport, you need to provide unrestricted access to VODs, otherwise the only people that will care are the few that already do. | ||
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Myia
173 Posts
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:22 -Archangel- wrote: Seriously, you told us this story 10 times on this thread already. Can you please stop now? First off all I am from europe, have 8mbit dl and was able to watch it normally on 720p with slight lags a bit later. Next, it is not always about speed, your internet provider just might be the cause of your problems (together with Jtv). Third, except for you I have not seen that many people complaining about connection problems in this topic. it wasn't even 10 times not even 5. Sick of these ppl saying i didn't have a problem therefore there is no problem. Considering the stream chat i was far from being alone. Same shit happened last time they streamed a tournament using Jtv .. Reddit Invitational. My ISP is just fine, funny i only have problems with Jtv. | ||
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RevRich
United States218 Posts
On February 22 2011 20:29 cuppatea wrote: You only get one chance to make a first impression and everything about that impression (the showmatch) was completely amateurish. It would have been far better to announce a $390k tournament on a professional looking website, using a professional quality stream, rather than do the whole thing on the cheap and make people instantly question whether you guys have what it takes to pull something like this off. At the very least, with weeks to prepare for this thing, you should have hired a competent artist to design some quality graphics for overlays and whatnot, rather than making them yourselves in mspaint and thinking "oh well, it'll do." I'd like to have seen SOMETHING to prove your competency before handing over money to a bunch of guys with no track record of running major tournaments and the showmatch completely failed to provide that. This is really on point. You're hyping a half million dollar league but your stream was out of sync, your overlays looked horrible, the trailer was short/simplistic/uninspiring, and the website is pretty lackluster. I'd rather wait 6 months and see something smooth and polished presented, but I can't help but remain excited. Lets hope this is just the beginning of something huge for NA esports, and mass improvement will take place over first few seasons. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
1. 5 players per team limit: Lots of sports have a similar limit (like Formula 1; I am sure Ferrari or McLaren could afford to have 3-4 top drivers in their team but it means nothing when they can only have two competing) and it is considered normal in those sports. Teams with more then 5 good players should just have internal qualifiers to determine who to send. That is the most fair. 2. What I question now how will they determine who will be part of the 50 players for seasons 2 and 3. There should be some qualifier for this (they said place 3 and 4 (I suppose 1 and 2 will as well) from open tournament will get a place but didn't say how they will choose who will fall out - maybe they should remove 1 player that was at the bottom of each division and give 5 spots for new players). But now we come to the problem, what if the new player is from Liquid and Liquid already has 5 members?! | ||
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Rodregeus
Australia126 Posts
It will give players a chance to compete in both if they have the ability, give us viewers the pleasure of having it spread out over the year. Rather than watching 5 hours of GSL and however many hours of NASL each night for a week out of the month then having a huge gap. I am glad that this should include a lot more foreigners as only really having Jinro and Idra in last seasons GSL was disappointing. But I would still love to see the likes of MvP, NaDa, MC and Naama show up for it. | ||
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Zomodok
United States41 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:35 Rodregeus wrote: Hopefuly this and GSL will cooperate and be shown in intervals to avoid overlapping each other. Why? Because the NASL will air at 4am eastern to overlap with the GSL? | ||
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bmg4ever
Germany74 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:26 Tierfight wrote: How do you know if it was prerecorded cast of replays? The stream itself atleast gives no proof about that. it was pretty obvious for everybody watching the stream. regarding the way they handled the little brakes between the maps i am 100% sure that it was prerecorded, like anybody else that watched it. that they casted from replays is in fact 100% sure, cause after one of the players left after typing gg the ingame popup did not occur where you can select to go back to the score screen, this only happens in replays. | ||
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:40 bmg4ever wrote: it was pretty obvious for everybody watching the stream. regarding the way they handled the little brakes between the maps i am 100% sure that it was prerecorded, like anybody else that watched it. that they casted from replays is in fact 100% sure, cause after one of the players left after typing gg the ingame popup did not occur where you can select to go back to the score screen, this only happens in replays. and thats ofc a good thing. Who would want to have lagging casters from America while 2 players in Korea play? | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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Tierfight
Belgium49 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:40 bmg4ever wrote: it was pretty obvious for everybody watching the stream. regarding the way they handled the little brakes between the maps i am 100% sure that it was prerecorded, like anybody else that watched it. that they casted from replays is in fact 100% sure, cause after one of the players left after typing gg the ingame popup did not occur where you can select to go back to the score screen, this only happens in replays. Those breaks are more like indication of live transmission, not pre recorded, learn something about live shows and then come to tell about how to recognize live show. And about those game leavings, it is totally possible that they cut the video footage of game screen and return to casters instantly for other reasons. There is absolutely no proof that the stream was pre-recorde and there is no proof that those games were replays. I was watching the stream. | ||
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:43 Markus138 wrote: and thats ofc a good thing. Who would want to have lagging casters from America while 2 players in Korea play? Dude they're arguing about whether or not it was replay casted, not if that's good or bad. Your comment misses the point. Edit: On February 22 2011 22:50 Tierfight wrote: Those breaks are more like indication of live transmission, not pre recorded, learn something about live shows and then come to tell about how to recognize live show. And about those game leavings, it is totally possible that they cut the video footage of game screen and return to casters instantly for other reasons. There is absolutely no proof that the stream was pre-recorde and there is no proof that those games were replays. I was watching the stream. Really, it didn't feel strange to you at all? Talk about being naive. | ||
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Tierfight
Belgium49 Posts
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spaZzNx-`
Hong Kong1221 Posts
No wonder IdrA went back to the US. Wonder if Jinro/Liquid will follow though. With now 4 players in GSL I'm not sure  | ||
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Rodregeus
Australia126 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:38 Zomodok wrote: Why? Because the NASL will air at 4am eastern to overlap with the GSL? I see you didn't read my entire post, and simply hit the reply button immediately after read the first line. In a vain hope of making someone sound dumb on the internet no doubt. When in actual fact you have made yourself come off as someone who lacks basic reading skills and comprehension. Please read all of my posts before replying to me in future. Thanks. | ||
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
Just look at it like some kind of testrun, if you had problems witch lag or something like that. I'm sure that testing their equipment was one of the reasons to do it. I have to say I'm totally pumped for this and I think iNcontroL is a good choice to be the "face" of the organisation. | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
TV-worthy. | ||
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bmg4ever
Germany74 Posts
so what about the totally different tone gretorps and incontrol voices had in the overlay breakes? and even if they just switched the headphones for no reason for some seconds, it never was like you would do a live show at all and it never felt like this. the breakes like they were done dont indicate a non interrupted and fluent live transmission at all, like you say this. and the fact that it were replays is proofed, just read my point about this again and watch the vods, you can see that on some of the maps where the cut to the casters would have been just to late to be faster then the ingame popup. | ||
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