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MoreFaSho
United States1427 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:50 Tierfight wrote: Those breaks are more like indication of live transmission, not pre recorded, learn something about live shows and then come to tell about how to recognize live show. And about those game leavings, it is totally possible that they cut the video footage of game screen and return to casters instantly for other reasons. There is absolutely no proof that the stream was pre-recorde and there is no proof that those games were replays. I was watching the stream. The sound quality was vastly different when they were actually live. They were covering up the replay bar. Incontrol said the NASL would be live (with the implied understanding that this wasn't). They even cut themselves off before they finished talking to go to the pre-recorded stuff. It was painfully obvious | ||
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Tierfight
Belgium49 Posts
On February 22 2011 23:02 bmg4ever wrote: you are really arguing this? so what about the totally different tone gretorps and incontrol voices had in the overlay breakes? and even if they just switched the headphones for no reason for some seconds, it never was like you would do a live show at all and it never felt like this. the breakes like they were done dont indicate a non interrupted and fluent live transmission at all, like you say this. and the fact that it were replays is proofed, just read my point about this again and watch the vods, you can see that on some of the maps where the cut to the casters would have been just to late to be faster then the ingame popup. No, your arguments are not valid. There is absolutely NO PROOF of replays. There is only your assumptions. | ||
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brentsen
1252 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:56 spaZzNx-` wrote: Wow 400K? Thats...massive LOL. No wonder IdrA went back to the US. Wonder if Jinro/Liquid will follow though. With now 4 players in GSL I'm not sure  Since it's online they don't even have to move to the US. Of course only if the lag is bearable, don't know about that. | ||
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Bliznako
Serbia165 Posts
When will all this whining end? So much pessimism and naysayers... It really was obvious that they had pre-recorded replays comments, but it was well thought out, they had really put some thought into it. If this is a scent of what is going to come, I believe it will be a good event with a decent production. Even if it fails, kudos for giving it a go and doing their best. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On February 22 2011 23:04 Tierfight wrote: No, your arguments are not valid. There is absolutely NO PROOF of replays. There is only your assumptions. The pre-written news post on G4TV that went up as soon as the games were over referenced the outcome of the games. Artosis is sick, but he sounded fine doing the post game interview (which would've been the same day in korea). Get real | ||
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
so for example; IM, they would send out Nestea or MVP, Zenex would send Kyrix(sp?),etc. so in the end there would probably be about 10 or so koreans; and the rest would be NA/ EU. This method would create a very diverse and fair system with the best of the best players. | ||
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
On February 22 2011 23:04 Tierfight wrote: No, your arguments are not valid. There is absolutely NO PROOF of replays. There is only your assumptions. There is proof, there is a screenshot where you can see the replay tooltip out there. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On February 22 2011 16:29 Jimmy Raynor wrote: They should get Day9 for this? Why isn't the best caster invited to cast it? I wonder if MLG has Day9 locked up for the time being. Interesting to watch MLG's response to this. | ||
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MrKefka
49 Posts
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IndridCold
United States385 Posts
I dont have much money, and i have never bought a premium package for any other event. But no other event is so important for the future of E-sports in the usa than this imo. If this fails, we can all watch koreans play each other for the next 10 years like we did in BW. If it succeeds (and it only will if we all support it) then we get to watch Sc2 in America. Sc2 on TV in the West! How can people be complaining about some stupid showmatch that means absolutely nothing! Go vote for your favorite player! Go get a coaching lesson, buy a fucking t-shirt! Support these guys and you will get your "perfect" live internet stream, maybe some day you can watch e-sports on tv like the koreans do. | ||
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coddan
Estonia890 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:18 StewKer wrote: *sigh* Really? Are you a troll like so many others? The voting is a PART of the process, it doesn't guarantee a person gets in or doesn't get into the tournament. The organizers will look at the list and take the list standings into consideration but it's not like the list is the only consideration when it comes to inviting players. So in that regard it does increase a player's chance of getting invited, but only to a point. The list is mostly a way for the community/viewers to feel like they are participating and is a fun thing. I personally have enjoyed casting my votes and leaving comments. Do I realize that who I vote for may not get in? Yeah, but at least my voice has been heard. Lot of you guys need to stop making issues out of nothing and arguing for the sake of arguing. Some of you have good posts with good points but some, like the above, are nothing but a waste of space. Good job calling troll on valid questions. We have the website saying the voting matters. Then we have Geoff saying that the voting does in no way whatsoever matter. What's true? You need to stop assuming shit before you attack people. | ||
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eloist
United States1017 Posts
On February 22 2011 23:19 IndridCold wrote: i dont understand why anyone gives a flying fuck if they were replays or not.... they just announced a 400k prize pool for a tournament in the United States for starcraft 2, and people are bitching about a test run of equipment for some little $1500 showmatch between 2 guys we've seen play a hundred times before. Who gives a shit what happened during the showmatch, this is the biggest Starcraft 2 news since blizzard showed a teaser video in 2007! I dont have much money, and i have never bought a premium package for any other event. But no other event is so important for the future of E-sports in the usa than this imo. If this fails, we can all watch koreans play each other for the next 10 years like we did in BW. If it succeeds (and it only will if we all support it) then we get to watch Sc2 in America. Sc2 on TV in the West! How can people be complaining about some stupid showmatch that means absolutely nothing! Go vote for your favorite player! Go get a coaching lesson, buy a fucking t-shirt! Support these guys and you will get your "perfect" live internet stream, maybe some day you can watch e-sports on tv like the koreans do. It's just money. I'd rather watch a 1k prize pool tourney where I am not facepalming at every little detail. Handing out half a million does not make a good show all by itself. Is the cash going to make this a 'real' star league in the west? No it won't. | ||
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coddan
Estonia890 Posts
On February 22 2011 23:04 Tierfight wrote: No, your arguments are not valid. There is absolutely NO PROOF of replays. There is only your assumptions. Except the fact you can see the Pause button between the overlays? | ||
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cubicle47b
United States14 Posts
On February 22 2011 23:29 coddan wrote: Good job calling troll on valid questions. We have the website saying the voting matters. Then we have Geoff saying that the voting does in no way whatsoever matter. What's true? You need to stop assuming shit before you attack people. You need to learn to read before you call people out. "The voting is a fun way to get involved and support your favorite players. It helps but by no means WHAT SO EVER decides who gets selected." | ||
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
On February 22 2011 23:03 MoreFaSho wrote: I don't understand why so many comments in this thread are about the showmatch when that topic has its own thread. This is a thread about the NASL. As far as the two are related some comments might make sense, but so many comments have absolutely nothing to do with the NASL. NASL and the people behind it have no track record of running major events (which is extremely difficult to do and has put many companies out of business) so the only thing we have to base our opinions off are the showmatch, which from a production point of view was a complete disaster. It just blows my mind that, with weeks to prepare, they would make such a mess of the long awaited, much hyped, grand unveiling of their tournament. It seems to me like they held a $1500 showmatch to announce a $400k tournament and ran then the whole production on a $10 budget, which ultimately reflected poorly on the NASL and cast doubt where it was supposed to generate excitement. | ||
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Panicc
Germany163 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:26 Tierfight wrote: How do you know if it was prerecorded cast of replays? The stream itself atleast gives no proof about that. pls be quite you are wrong dude | ||
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Tierfight
Belgium49 Posts
Be quiet yourself without evidence. | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
Was there mistakes made in the production? Yes, definitely. Could it have been better? Absolutely. So? People make it sound like its the end of the world. Like the league will fail. And most people seem to imply that because this league likely will become the most prestigeous one due to the price money they HAVE TO have the best production ever. And they have to have it on their first broadcast. Take it a bit easy. It just started. It will get better for sure, and even if it doesn't become TV-level production Im sure we'll be fine anyway. You dont need to burst out like the production team just commited murder. Just calmly tell them what they need to improve on, for example the sound desync problem. And if you rather not watch at all because the oh-so-terrible production, then dont. It's their own problem more than anyone's. Without viewers the league will be a massive fail anyway. If you're still interested even though the production is not top notch? Keep watching, give them feedback about what you think they can do better and then sit back and hope it gets fixed. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
I first want to see it a season before i pay money for it, same way i did it in the GSL. | ||
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