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On February 22 2011 18:02 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 17:40 Skitz wrote:
Yer gretorp and Incontrol aren't the greatest actors in the world, hopefully they can pull out some sincere excitement when casting NASL.
btw Incontrol, there's such a thing as overhype dude. yea he overhyped this to the max i think thats why so many ppl are dissapointed, i was expecting a live studio just like the gsl, i was not expecting an online tournament, sure the prize pool is great (not as great as the gsl as its over 3 months) but online tournaments are just so much less entertaining then live lans. Also incontrol and gretorp casting, im cringing so hard right now, day 9 HD husky they all live around there im pretty sure all of them would be more appropriate for casting.
Except the first time Husky would cast, the automated ban list would get an overflow from all the husky hate/love threads that would pop up.
I'm 100% sure Day9 will cast the finals, no matter how busy he is, he just can't miss that opportunity, there is no way for that.
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Lol. That's great. That's actually very great
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On February 22 2011 18:02 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 17:40 Skitz wrote:
Yer gretorp and Incontrol aren't the greatest actors in the world, hopefully they can pull out some sincere excitement when casting NASL.
btw Incontrol, there's such a thing as overhype dude. yea he overhyped this to the max i think thats why so many ppl are dissapointed, i was expecting a live studio just like the gsl, i was not expecting an online tournament, sure the prize pool is great (not as great as the gsl as its over 3 months) but online tournaments are just so much less entertaining then live lans. Also incontrol and gretorp casting, im cringing so hard right now, day 9 HD husky they all live around there im pretty sure all of them would be more appropriate for casting.
Please.. please.. please, do not throw incontrol and gretorp under the bus like that and name HD as someone who should cast over them. Also when you make comments like Day9 should be casting. (They tried and at the moment he is way to busy with pre-booked casting jobs as stated by Gretorp). Husky is good, I really do like him but am I the only person that finds him more of a one man show? The guy just talks so damn fast sometimes and the level of excitement he brings I don't think can randomly be turned off in one second to let someone speak for 5 seconds and then have husky go off in a higher pitched voice.. haha, anyways, just my two cents.
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Yes. There's going to be a free low quality stream that will be made available to everybody... And then there will be a premium channel which is going to be behind a pay wall but made very very cheap. A whole season we're looking at maybe $20 to $25.
How is 25$ for ONE season very very cheap?
Oh well not like i would pay for a Jtv stream anyways since they are unwatchable in Europe.... sigh.
Whoever suggested HD or Husky should be shot.
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Yes, so exited! This will be great! I'm def. buying the premium to support this!
+1
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On February 22 2011 17:13 Dhalphir wrote:
The equally exciting news for me is this -
If the lan finals is going to be offline, that means there is potential within SC2 that permits LAN play, and with Blizzard backing this tournament, that means either the functionality already exists and they're going to enable it just for the tournament, or the plan is to open up LAN play in a patch by the time April rolls around.
Umm they already do this for the GSL? And that has been around for 4+ months now..
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iNcontroL brings amazing tournament to America.
Assholes on TL shit on the idea. WTF?
The thing about a LAN tournament in America is that it's impossible to try to spread it out over a few months and actually expect people to show up in person. Last time I checked the US is about 10 million square miles and South Korea is a mere 40,000. It costs a lot of money for people to travel and stay at a place that's anywhere from a few hundred to a couple thousand miles away. An online tournament just makes more sense logistically.
Also, Day9 is an extremely busy man and the SC2 community often takes him for granted. The guy is about to graduate with a master's degree in a couple of months and you people are shitting on him for not immediately jumping on board as a full time caster for this event.
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On February 22 2011 13:07 FXOpen wrote:
Being fined for 'unforeseeable problems' is just awesome! Honestly, if a snow storm goes through someones area and they cant log on, you are going to make them pay for it? Don't you think thats just a little bit silly?
Was also my initial reaction, but after thinking about it a bit, it makes perfect sense.
Having something like a "negligence"-rule wouldn't really work since it would be impossible to track for US-guys if the claimed snow storm really happened or - more importantly - did really cause the connection problems.
It's also what happens in everyday's modern trade contracts: having to pay a contractual penalty if you don't deliver in time. "Delivery" in this case would be showing up and play, since everything depends on matches being played on time. Everyone who has tried to follow black dragon league knows how annoying it is, when matches are constantly rescheduled because one guy just doesn't feel like playing (at least it appears to be this way considering the massive amount of rescheduled playdays).
It's an online event and the success of this whole thing depends on players showing up.
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And about the price... It is 25$for 10 weeks right? and the gsl is 10 $ for 4 weeks so i think its a pretty good price
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On February 22 2011 18:14 aderum wrote:
And about the price... It is 25$for 10 weeks right? and the gsl is 10 $ for 4 weeks so i think its a pretty good price
Agreed, for the amount of content their promising, how can anybody really bitch at the cost. Their basically pumping out just as much if not more games than GSL and I think if you worked it out, it's actually cheaper.
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On February 22 2011 16:29 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
They should get Day9 for this? Why isn't the best caster invited to cast it?
Cause if he did it there would be no more dailies... no more Day9 on big lans and so on?
Also i doubt NASL could pay Day9 enough.
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What about access to VODs?
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How can anyone with a clear mind think about a livestudio with offline games? Western esport is quite different. We are not playing in one town in one country and do nothing else. I think quite a few progamers or most of them have an other job @cheesemaster. That was just a stupid comment from you...
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On February 22 2011 17:38 Pcl.Busted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 16:36 mufin wrote:On February 22 2011 15:43 Pcl.Busted wrote:On February 22 2011 15:21 mufin wrote:On February 22 2011 14:05 IamAnton wrote:
"Incontrol stated that perhaps there will be a cap on Koreans at five max." LOL
that would be such a terrible idea... Let the best players in the world compete plz.. Yea and what happens when 30+ koreans decide to move over and take over the top 16 of the tournament. You now have a north american tournament filled with all korean players. Does that sound like a good way to get western esports on the right track? People want to watch players they can connect with; players that share their same culture and language. The league's purpose is to create the competitive environment needed for the west to catch up to the korean scene, not to determine who the best korean is. Think of it as just one giant TSL tournament. Thats called incentive, if the South Korean's are the best in the world then they are the best in the world and everyone else is just gonna have to get better. If not then its no better then male and female tournaments. The best should be aloud to compete no matter their race, sex or nationality. Sounds like you want easy mode. you fail to see the bigger picture. Do you really think from a business stand point that the NASL would have more success with koreans occupying the top 16 spots? It would just be GSL, but with different casters. If I wanted to watch GSL I would watch GSL. To put it into perspective, say my friend recommended me to watch the NASL. Would I be more likely to keep watching if I saw players that spoke my language and shared my culture or if I saw players that needed to be paired with a translator at all times? Theirs a reason why koreans have less fans in the western world then foreign players and its certainly not because foreigners are the better players. Simply put, if NASL wants to grow, it has to cater to its audience. Just like GSL caters to foreigners (code A seeds, housing, etc...) because they know thats what their viewership wants to see. Its just good business, sorry. I really like to think that the Starcraft 2 community is better then that. We aren't a group of racist cultural elitists. We play Starcraft 2 for the comradery we have with our Starcraft 2 brothers. Culture, language, sex, and country of origin shouldn't be factors in Starcraft 2 tournaments, those things really don't matter. We all play Starcraft 2 because we all love Starcraft 2. Maybe I'm naive and idealistic but shouldn't we put our brotherhood as Starcraft 2 players above greed and set an example for the rest of our world. Many of the smartest most logical people on the planet are a part of this community. Why can't we look past culture and creed or better yet learn about each others cultures(look at Team Liquid and OGS). We aren't Americans, Asians, Europeans or anything else we are Starcraft 2 players.
meh I don't feel its racist at all. It just goes to show that we are all human and we can't look at everything objectively all the time. Don't get me wrong, I watched the gsl since season 1 and not only did I have blast, I also learned a hell of a lot about korean culture. But on the other hand, I also watched foreign events such as MLG and ESL and I feel its just a better experience when you can identify with the players through their tone of voice and body language. It gives a sense of belonging rather than feeling like an outsider looking through the glass of a translator.
In the future, I believe the community will cheer for players representing their nationality just as they would in the Olympics. Unfortunately for now, the sc2 scene is summed up as koreans vs everyone else. When the western scene gets more established, I feel that "everyone else" is going to be further divided amongst the different nationalities and the diversity of the community will start to play a bigger part.
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On February 22 2011 17:32 dtz wrote:
pretty sure the cast is gonna be delayed if it is live. Anything more than 5 mins would be enough to ensure the integrity of the game. I think Justin.tv is quite prepared for it as well judging as we can see from the day9 stream thread.
The only problem would be jerks constantly checking match history and spoiling the result in chat.I imagine there will be one or two instances where all the bases are mined out, the outcome is not clear. Final battle to decide all. And some dumbass will " hey i checked the match history, jinro just won 1 min ago"
Hopefully the solution they find will guarantee the best viewing experience possible for the players.
good points.
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I just read the interview. This league is going to be huge! I'm really happy for InControL and SC2. Definately gonna watch it.
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On February 22 2011 17:32 dtz wrote:
pretty sure the cast is gonna be delayed if it is live. Anything more than 5 mins would be enough to ensure the integrity of the game. I think Justin.tv is quite prepared for it as well judging as we can see from the day9 stream thread.
The only problem would be jerks constantly checking match history and spoiling the result in chat.I imagine there will be one or two instances where all the bases are mined out, the outcome is not clear. Final battle to decide all. And some dumbass will " hey i checked the match history, jinro just won 1 min ago"
Hopefully the solution they find will guarantee the best viewing experience possible for the players.
Solution is to play on maps that disallow match history info 
As for this NASL, I didn't like the casting of the showmatch, it was way below GSL quality. I hope they do better for NASL.
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On February 22 2011 18:16 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 18:14 aderum wrote:
And about the price... It is 25$for 10 weeks right? and the gsl is 10 $ for 4 weeks so i think its a pretty good price Agreed, for the amount of content their promising, how can anybody really bitch at the cost. Their basically pumping out just as much if not more games than GSL and I think if you worked it out, it's actually cheaper.
Imagine if GSL decided to make Code A Ro32 a group stage, with 4 groups of 8, and everyone played a Bo5. In total, there's say 5 times the amount of total games played per season as before (don't care what the actual number is). If GOM decided to make the ticket $40, would you say that's a bargain? Of course not, you get the same amount of games with the top players but more games with the low-level ones.
2 players are advancing from each group of 10. There's not much you can do to convince me to care about the game between the 6th and 8th ranked player.
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Interesting. Looking forward to it
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