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betaV1.25
Profile Joined April 2010
425 Posts
February 22 2011 10:31 GMT
#481
On February 22 2011 19:21 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 19:16 Nizaris wrote:
On February 22 2011 19:12 The KY wrote:
I can't believe anyone thought this was underwhelming...what more did you want? An exact carbon copy of the GSL? Tip; if you wanna watch the GSL, just watch the GSL.

It's an online tournament until the last 16, where it's a LAN. Obviously because in Korea, it's alright to do a month long LAN because all the progamers live in the same place. Anyone who can't see a problem with doing that in America didn't think for more than 3 seconds.

As for the casters, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But the fact is that anyone who disagrees that Inc and Gretorp are awesome is wrong. That's right, you are entitled to your wrong opinion.

I want a non Jtv stream so us Europeans with 30 mbit connections can actually enjoy the livestream without lag.

I got no problems with jtv.



Me neither as long as i dont put it above 240p....


How ever, at first it was terrible to watch gom aswel, they did some major improvements, if justin.tv sees potential in Europe, i dont see why they coudnt improve. Stuff like this takes major investments and if you dont have a solid ROI ist really hard to spend that much.
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
February 22 2011 10:33 GMT
#482
I love the NASL for not forgetting European players! I didn't take it for granted at all. This is such a huge step for esports, Now if someone puts something of similar epicness up in Europe, (where ofc also players from NA are allowed) all my dreams would come true, we would basically have OSL and MSL in the West :D We could permanently watch people competing in 2 different huge leagues, maybe with a slightly different format. Omg this would be so awesome and is already.
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
February 22 2011 10:39 GMT
#483
hopeing Justin TV sorts out any issues with streaming to europe otherwise this will be a fail on that part. Otherwise I really cannot wait, I havent ordered any GSl yet even for vods as the time it is in isnt very good for anyone living in birtain and working 9-5!!! Be interesting to see what time these are played in comparison to uk times.
Live and Let Die!
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 11:09:02
February 22 2011 10:43 GMT
#484
Is that guy fucking kidding me? How can he possibly hope to win like this :/

Yeah that's not the GSL life report thread^^
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
February 22 2011 10:44 GMT
#485
This is gonna be interesting. NASL has already talked to MLG, but IEM wasn't mentioned at all.
I feel like one of the reasons esports didn't completely kick in yet is that we don't have semi-pros. In all the tournaments so far we see the big guys battling it out, even for prize pools like 50$ or sth. Now, as more tournaments grow, I think we might see an amateur base build up. This is really good news.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 10:47:14
February 22 2011 10:45 GMT
#486
On February 22 2011 19:39 Tommylew wrote:
hopeing Justin TV sorts out any issues with streaming to europe otherwise this will be a fail on that part. Otherwise I really cannot wait, I havent ordered any GSl yet even for vods as the time it is in isnt very good for anyone living in birtain and working 9-5!!! Be interesting to see what time these are played in comparison to uk times.


thats the beauty of the GSL. I almost never can watch it live but after work the VODs are always uploaded. If you take care you're not getting spoiled until then (which means no TL/social media etc during work) it's perfect to watch as it was live.

They also said there's gonna be a recast for Europe which is quite nice. Normal US tournaments have been from 22 until 4 am in the morning which is quite ok though to watch

edit: Mandalor: why should they talk about IEM? There won't be any IEM matches between april and july. The grandfinals are next week and the next season i guess will start in Ocotober or something like that
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
February 22 2011 10:50 GMT
#487
On February 22 2011 19:43 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Is that guy fucking kidding me? How can he possibly hope to win like this :/


^^ I think you are posting in the wrong thread
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
ArhK
Profile Joined July 2007
France287 Posts
February 22 2011 10:50 GMT
#488
On February 22 2011 11:03 orotoss wrote:
I don't see why it's not just an open tournament with qualifiers. If the pros we love are really that good, then they will make it to the top. If there are some unknowns out there who could crush idra and huk, well I wanna watch those guys. The popularity system goes against everything that Starcraft is about. This is a COMPETITIVE e-sport, not a popularity contest.

I understand that they want the games to be entertaining, but people are impressed by the skills of the players, not their names. People wanna watch Jinro because he is awesome at Starcraft 2, and we would be even more entertained by someone who is better.


This, exactly.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
February 22 2011 10:51 GMT
#489
On February 22 2011 19:18 CursedRich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 19:12 The KY wrote:
I can't believe anyone thought this was underwhelming...what more did you want? An exact carbon copy of the GSL? Tip; if you wanna watch the GSL, just watch the GSL.

It's an online tournament until the last 16, where it's a LAN. Obviously because in Korea, it's alright to do a month long LAN because all the progamers live in the same place. Anyone who can't see a problem with doing that in America didn't think for more than 3 seconds.

As for the casters, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But the fact is that anyone who disagrees that Inc and Gretorp are awesome is wrong. That's right, you are entitled to your wrong opinion.


So are you and Ive worked in TV production for 8 years


Ok.

...?

On February 22 2011 19:16 Nizaris wrote:
I want a non Jtv stream so us Europeans with 30 mbit connections can actually enjoy the livestream without lag.


That's fair enough, but in their mission statement NASL acknowledge that there is a lot of pressure on jtv to step it up. And jtv themselves have said they are committed to improving their streams to cater for esports. So I think it's not fair to judge them just yet.

In fact on all complaints of quality, the show match was a test run. Yeah it didn't go so wonderful. But neither did the first GSL. Plus, horrible lag for Europe wasn't fixed until season 3 of GSL.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 22 2011 10:54 GMT
#490
On February 22 2011 19:50 Leviance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 19:43 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Is that guy fucking kidding me? How can he possibly hope to win like this :/


^^ I think you are posting in the wrong thread


i do this shit all the time so annoying
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
trancey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany729 Posts
February 22 2011 10:55 GMT
#491
If the stream to EU works fine many people will buy the premium (including me) and JTV will profit too. I think they will manage to get it working then.
bmg4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany74 Posts
February 22 2011 10:56 GMT
#492
On February 22 2011 19:29 eloist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 19:12 The KY wrote:
I can't believe anyone thought this was underwhelming...what more did you want? An exact carbon copy of the GSL? Tip; if you wanna watch the GSL, just watch the GSL.

It's an online tournament until the last 16, where it's a LAN. Obviously because in Korea, it's alright to do a month long LAN because all the progamers live in the same place. Anyone who can't see a problem with doing that in America didn't think for more than 3 seconds.

As for the casters, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But the fact is that anyone who disagrees that Inc and Gretorp are awesome is wrong. That's right, you are entitled to your wrong opinion.

The only thing lifting this above any other community project that has been shown thus far is the prize pool. The big number at the end. That's it.

It should be alright for people to be skeptical until we see more. Until production is at least on par with the often criticized GLHF.tv for instance. Until it becomes clear that the structure is as well thought out as the TSL. Until there is more to look at than a single HTML page. Until it's evident that someone is actually checking pre recorded footage for errors before broadcasting.


exactly this!

only the pure prize money number stands out, in whole it jet by far does not look like the biggest and most professional organization in western esport history, its just the biggest prize pool.

it seems that they were simply not ready for the announcement yet and they go live with it without a big sponsor behind the event. it seems that they have there budget guaranteed by blizzard for 3 seasons, but still its a bit gambling in the hope that financially it will pay off in the end. in dont see how this can work in the longrun without a sponsor and to get one that invests soo much into a completely new esports brand the first seasons have to be mindblowing and thats not only be done by the pure prize money number.

the production value has to increase massivly, cause it did not fit to the "biggest organization in western esport history" role. they simply have to be better! then for example a eg masters cup broadcasts, which was really great, cause thats what everybody will expect.

i really really hope they get it done, or the chance to get esports that big anytime will be gone forever after 3 seasons.
hadang
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 10:56:55
February 22 2011 10:56 GMT
#493
What about the premium pricing ? 20 - 25 $ seems a bit too much compared to the 10 $ of GSL. And GSL has the better players ... and the better casters ... and a stadium for the finals
Enzyme
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia183 Posts
February 22 2011 10:56 GMT
#494
On February 22 2011 19:51 The KY wrote:
In fact on all complaints of quality, the show match was a test run. Yeah it didn't go so wonderful. But neither did the first GSL. Plus, horrible lag for Europe wasn't fixed until season 3 of GSL.


The difference being that this tournament is specifically targeting NA and Europe as its audience, while the GSL is first and foremost Korean.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
February 22 2011 10:57 GMT
#495
On February 22 2011 19:45 Markus138 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 19:39 Tommylew wrote:
hopeing Justin TV sorts out any issues with streaming to europe otherwise this will be a fail on that part. Otherwise I really cannot wait, I havent ordered any GSl yet even for vods as the time it is in isnt very good for anyone living in birtain and working 9-5!!! Be interesting to see what time these are played in comparison to uk times.


edit: Mandalor: why should they talk about IEM? There won't be any IEM matches between april and july. The grandfinals are next week and the next season i guess will start in Ocotober or something like that


Ah okay, didn't know that. Thanks for the clarification.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
February 22 2011 11:08 GMT
#496
On February 22 2011 19:56 Enzyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 19:51 The KY wrote:
In fact on all complaints of quality, the show match was a test run. Yeah it didn't go so wonderful. But neither did the first GSL. Plus, horrible lag for Europe wasn't fixed until season 3 of GSL.


The difference being that this tournament is specifically targeting NA and Europe as its audience, while the GSL is first and foremost Korean.


That's highly debatable. GSL, the Global Star League, has worked pretty hard on getting it's tournament worldwide. Take a look at the new ad that comes on in between games, the one with the map of the world behind the GOM logo?
Tisp
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada209 Posts
February 22 2011 11:09 GMT
#497
On February 22 2011 18:46 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 18:16 Shelke14 wrote:
On February 22 2011 18:14 aderum wrote:
And about the price... It is 25$for 10 weeks right? and the gsl is 10 $ for 4 weeks so i think its a pretty good price


Agreed, for the amount of content their promising, how can anybody really bitch at the cost. Their basically pumping out just as much if not more games than GSL and I think if you worked it out, it's actually cheaper.


Imagine if GSL decided to make Code A Ro32 a group stage, with 4 groups of 8, and everyone played a Bo5. In total, there's say 5 times the amount of total games played per season as before (don't care what the actual number is). If GOM decided to make the ticket $40, would you say that's a bargain? Of course not, you get the same amount of games with the top players but more games with the low-level ones.

2 players are advancing from each group of 10. There's not much you can do to convince me to care about the game between the 6th and 8th ranked player.


Except if the 6th vs 8th match is Liquid`Huk vs EGIdrA.
Think about it from a REAL sports perspective. You don't watch any of the games that don't have playoff implications past Week 9 of the NFL? Past game 60 of the NHL?

Give me a break. This is going to be the highest level play with the best 50 players. Every game will be awesome and exciting to watch regardless of the player's position in their divison. The fact that the divison exists at all is beyond exciting. The majority of this community loves watching high level pros fight over $50 dollars, nevermind having each and every game worth some sort of point system.

Stop being a dbag and appreciate how awesome this announcement is.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 11:13:48
February 22 2011 11:12 GMT
#498
On February 22 2011 19:56 hadang wrote:
What about the premium pricing ? 20 - 25 $ seems a bit too much compared to the 10 $ of GSL. And GSL has the better players ... and the better casters ... and a stadium for the finals

10$ is for 3 weeks of games at strange times. 25$ will be for 9+ weeks of games at premium times.
Yes, players are better in GSL but that does not necessarily means more entertaining games (as some GSL seasons have shown us). Yes casters are better (well they are not with Kelly on board :D), but not that much. These guys can and I expect them to step up their game.

Well the best thing is to wait and watch the first week and then decide if you want to give them your money.

Let me add, if they are planning to restream for EU then I hope they put it at evening time when working people can watch it as well as students. I really hate GSL live stream as I cannot watch it during the morning.
PoisedYeTi
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia167 Posts
February 22 2011 11:13 GMT
#499
Fantastic news for American Esports. Wish you guys luck running the show!
I will be tuning in from Australia to watch all the SC2 goodness
"Just read game like book" -WhiteRa
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
February 22 2011 11:15 GMT
#500
On February 22 2011 19:56 Enzyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 19:51 The KY wrote:
In fact on all complaints of quality, the show match was a test run. Yeah it didn't go so wonderful. But neither did the first GSL. Plus, horrible lag for Europe wasn't fixed until season 3 of GSL.


The difference being that this tournament is specifically targeting NA and Europe as its audience, while the GSL is first and foremost Korean.

Doesnt matter what audience the tourney is primarily targeted at, it's the stream that is in question. GSL are asking for money for a stream, targeted primarily for a western audience, hence it has to meet the same standards that any other stream would(like the one the NASL is gonna provide). So saying that it took some time for GSL to rectify their problems is not that far off. Then again you could argue that there shouldnt be any problems to begin with, but in a world that isnt perfect...
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