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OCsurfeR
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States195 Posts
February 22 2011 06:07 GMT
#341
First off, nothing iNcontroL said in the interview should be construed as official rules for NASL. iNcontroL isn't in charge of establishing, managing or enforcing league rules. He's the lead Commentator for the NASL.

Secondly, the rules governing player committments to show up to games timely are there to protect ALL the players, the league, eSports and you the fan base.

It's unbelievable to me that on DAY ONE of the announcement of the NASL there would be so much nitpicking over things like this, particularly when nobody outside of the NASL has even seen the league rules yet.

Focus on what's good here - There's finally a REAL pro-gamer SC2 league with real prize money in North America. Celebrate it. We can argue about the rest of it later. That time will come.
"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?" - Chris Knight, Real Genius
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
February 22 2011 06:12 GMT
#342
Going to be tough having to pay for the HQ passes for 3 leagues now (MLG, GSL, NASL) but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do for the community to continue to move up.
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 06:14:49
February 22 2011 06:14 GMT
#343
On February 22 2011 15:07 OCsurfeR wrote:
First off, nothing iNcontroL said in the interview should be construed as official rules for NASL. iNcontroL isn't in charge of establishing, managing or enforcing league rules. He's the lead Commentator for the NASL.

Secondly, the rules governing player committments to show up to games timely are there to protect ALL the players, the league, eSports and you the fan base.

It's unbelievable to me that on DAY ONE of the announcement of the NASL there would be so much nitpicking over things like this, particularly when nobody outside of the NASL has even seen the league rules yet.

Focus on what's good here - There's finally a REAL pro-gamer SC2 league with real prize money in North America. Celebrate it. We can argue about the rest of it later. That time will come.


Surely it is a great, great thing for this game. Though I think some people might've been expecting something a little more mind blowing because of the obscene hype. if this weren't hyped at all, people would be screaming with ecstasy right now with a few legitimate concerns being posted here and there.
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
February 22 2011 06:14 GMT
#344
On February 22 2011 15:07 OCsurfeR wrote:
First off, nothing iNcontroL said in the interview should be construed as official rules for NASL. iNcontroL isn't in charge of establishing, managing or enforcing league rules. He's the lead Commentator for the NASL.

Secondly, the rules governing player committments to show up to games timely are there to protect ALL the players, the league, eSports and you the fan base.

It's unbelievable to me that on DAY ONE of the announcement of the NASL there would be so much nitpicking over things like this, particularly when nobody outside of the NASL has even seen the league rules yet.

Focus on what's good here - There's finally a REAL pro-gamer SC2 league with real prize money in North America. Celebrate it. We can argue about the rest of it later. That time will come.



I agree with this. Count me in with the people that don't understand how you could complain about something that hasn't happened yet. Personally I can't see how this can turn out as anything less than awesome. This tournament is going to attract the best from all over the world.

Maybe someone can shed some light on how lag factors in when people log into the US from Korea/Europe. Whenever I see Catz logging into the Korean or European servers, it doesn't seem to lag enough to be a problem.
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
February 22 2011 06:15 GMT
#345
rly rly sick sick money :D will be great :D
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
February 22 2011 06:18 GMT
#346
I had to leave early (european), did they say how big of an impact votings gonna be? I really hope its only a small factor as its just a popularity contest, and not indicating of skill, some might say thats good for NASL tho, idk. Itd just feel weird if for example PsY were invited but not Demuslim, since Demuslim is obviously the better player.

Even though, as said before, theyll prolly invite some big "casuals-favorites" such as PsY to make it bigger. I just hope they wont invite Destiny, but i guess its not possible? As he isnt on a team afaik.
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Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 06:18:47
February 22 2011 06:18 GMT
#347
On February 22 2011 15:05 Rokk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 14:45 FXOpen wrote:
On February 22 2011 13:10 Yotta wrote:
On February 22 2011 10:27 motbob wrote:
What other things are the premium members going to get? Is it going to be like GOM where they get VODs?

Yeah pretty much exactly like that. You'll get a season pass and then access to the high quality VODs. We're talking about creating additional content as well like giving them access to replays but then we thought that was kind of silly because it only takes one person to get a replay and then the whole internet has the replay.
It's as easy to copy a VOD file as it is to copy a replay...

On February 22 2011 13:09 axellerate wrote:
On February 22 2011 13:07 FXOpen wrote:
Being fined for 'unforeseeable problems' is just awesome! Honestly, if a snow storm goes through someones area and they cant log on, you are going to make them pay for it? Don't you think thats just a little bit silly?



QFT

yeah this fine thing cannot possibly last.

I'm pretty sure it's in case they intentionally behave in an unforeseeable, problematic way.
Professional athletes can be fined for behaving in a way that the league or their team deems inappropriate, it's necessary to ensure players won't hurt the league's reputation if things don't go their way.


Read deeper into it. The wording has been put so that even if for instance, a power outage which is not the fault of the competitor happens, they can be fined. Plain and simple. This i believe is unfair, as a gamer cannot control the weather, power, or telco companies.

Do you really believe that they're going to fine someone for a power outage? Honestly? This is just getting absurd.


I have a feeling that he might be attacking it under the guise of pre-emptively covering for a certain player of his who may suffer due to these rules.
What this
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
February 22 2011 06:18 GMT
#348
On February 22 2011 15:12 On_Slaught wrote:
Going to be tough having to pay for the HQ passes for 3 leagues now (MLG, GSL, NASL) but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do for the community to continue to move up.


GSL: $10 for the best league in the world (players, production, commentators) and access to HD VODs for every match? No problem, a bargain even.
MLG: $10 for a weekend of randomly casted games in "HD" (which is still not good quality) and spotty at best production? LOL
NASL: $20-25 for ??? Still wait and see...
i c u
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
February 22 2011 06:18 GMT
#349
Happy to finally hear about this. Anyhow, Day9 for casting!!!
He is the most eligible person to be on the top of this. I guess nobody did so much for SC2 like Day9. And I speak for all of the community, he is speaking for all of the players from bronz to master. This guys deserves to live hes dream.

Looking forward to see this.
Maru | Life | herO
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
February 22 2011 06:19 GMT
#350
On February 22 2011 15:05 Rokk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 14:45 FXOpen wrote:
On February 22 2011 13:10 Yotta wrote:
On February 22 2011 10:27 motbob wrote:
What other things are the premium members going to get? Is it going to be like GOM where they get VODs?

Yeah pretty much exactly like that. You'll get a season pass and then access to the high quality VODs. We're talking about creating additional content as well like giving them access to replays but then we thought that was kind of silly because it only takes one person to get a replay and then the whole internet has the replay.
It's as easy to copy a VOD file as it is to copy a replay...

On February 22 2011 13:09 axellerate wrote:
On February 22 2011 13:07 FXOpen wrote:
Being fined for 'unforeseeable problems' is just awesome! Honestly, if a snow storm goes through someones area and they cant log on, you are going to make them pay for it? Don't you think thats just a little bit silly?



QFT

yeah this fine thing cannot possibly last.

I'm pretty sure it's in case they intentionally behave in an unforeseeable, problematic way.
Professional athletes can be fined for behaving in a way that the league or their team deems inappropriate, it's necessary to ensure players won't hurt the league's reputation if things don't go their way.


Read deeper into it. The wording has been put so that even if for instance, a power outage which is not the fault of the competitor happens, they can be fined. Plain and simple. This i believe is unfair, as a gamer cannot control the weather, power, or telco companies.

Do you really believe that they're going to fine someone for a power outage? Honestly? This is just getting absurd.


From a legal point of view (dealing with things constantly like this) thats what it states. There are no exclusions and it states specifically "unforseeableable problems.
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mufin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States616 Posts
February 22 2011 06:21 GMT
#351
On February 22 2011 14:05 IamAnton wrote:
"Incontrol stated that perhaps there will be a cap on Koreans at five max." LOL

that would be such a terrible idea... Let the best players in the world compete plz..


Yea and what happens when 30+ koreans decide to move over and take over the top 16 of the tournament. You now have a north american tournament filled with all korean players. Does that sound like a good way to get western esports on the right track?

People want to watch players they can connect with; players that share their same culture and language. The league's purpose is to create the competitive environment needed for the west to catch up to the korean scene, not to determine who the best korean is.

Think of it as just one giant TSL tournament.
I only make 5 actions per minute. But since I use all my time deliberating and planning, my 5 actions are so brutally devastating that children cry out and grown men weep.
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 06:24:12
February 22 2011 06:21 GMT
#352
Only the finals are "offline".
This is a HUGE turnoff for me. Makes real interviews after the games impossible. Also i was kinda turned down on the production value of yesterday's showmatch.

But we will see how it goes.

/edit:
Also scheduling this at "night" (presumably for pst) this is impossible for europeans to watch. I didn't watch the idra vs. jinro games yesterday for the same reason ... i just slept in.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
February 22 2011 06:22 GMT
#353
On February 22 2011 15:19 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 15:05 Rokk wrote:
On February 22 2011 14:45 FXOpen wrote:
On February 22 2011 13:10 Yotta wrote:
On February 22 2011 10:27 motbob wrote:
What other things are the premium members going to get? Is it going to be like GOM where they get VODs?

Yeah pretty much exactly like that. You'll get a season pass and then access to the high quality VODs. We're talking about creating additional content as well like giving them access to replays but then we thought that was kind of silly because it only takes one person to get a replay and then the whole internet has the replay.
It's as easy to copy a VOD file as it is to copy a replay...

On February 22 2011 13:09 axellerate wrote:
On February 22 2011 13:07 FXOpen wrote:
Being fined for 'unforeseeable problems' is just awesome! Honestly, if a snow storm goes through someones area and they cant log on, you are going to make them pay for it? Don't you think thats just a little bit silly?



QFT

yeah this fine thing cannot possibly last.

I'm pretty sure it's in case they intentionally behave in an unforeseeable, problematic way.
Professional athletes can be fined for behaving in a way that the league or their team deems inappropriate, it's necessary to ensure players won't hurt the league's reputation if things don't go their way.


Read deeper into it. The wording has been put so that even if for instance, a power outage which is not the fault of the competitor happens, they can be fined. Plain and simple. This i believe is unfair, as a gamer cannot control the weather, power, or telco companies.

Do you really believe that they're going to fine someone for a power outage? Honestly? This is just getting absurd.


From a legal point of view (dealing with things constantly like this) thats what it states. There are no exclusions and it states specifically "unforseeableable problems.

What 'states' that? An interview with a commentator that begins with the line "Be aware that the views in this interview are those of Geoff, and not official word from NASL."

Do you have a copy of the official rules (which probably don't even exist) handy?
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Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
February 22 2011 06:22 GMT
#354
On February 22 2011 15:18 ChThoniC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 15:12 On_Slaught wrote:
Going to be tough having to pay for the HQ passes for 3 leagues now (MLG, GSL, NASL) but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do for the community to continue to move up.


GSL: $10 for the best league in the world (players, production, commentators) and access to HD VODs for every match? No problem, a bargain even.
MLG: $10 for a weekend of randomly casted games in "HD" (which is still not good quality) and spotty at best production? LOL
NASL: $20-25 for ??? Still wait and see...


Reason NASL is so high in price is because it is over a 3 month period, so it is actually less than 3 Seasons of GSL. I am going to be wholeheartedly behind NASL, it needs to succeed for western esports to get bigger.
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CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
February 22 2011 06:24 GMT
#355
Oh btw, I think Geoff kinda overhyped all of this :p.. I mean, this is fanstastic and everything, but with the hype it had around it, people COULDNT be satisfied with anything i think, mbe if itd wouldve been like a 1m prize pool for a year or something ridiclously.

And i can understand some of u are dissappointed, esp when Geoff made it sound like he had gotten ESPN to broadcast it primetime, but seriously! its the first day, this showmatch was a good "tester" of everything, and do u remember tastosis in the start? id dare to say that if they improve in a rate near what they did, theyre gonna be amazing in no time.

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enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 06:26:57
February 22 2011 06:25 GMT
#356
Super pumped. Going to buy premium for sure, even without knowing the players. iNcontroL is in it, which means quality. Hopefully better connection than to Korea based GSL, more familiar players and more comprehensive English coverage. This, along with MLG (boy I hope they can manage the shedules to not get in each other's way), will redefine Starcraft/esports in the West.
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mufin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States616 Posts
February 22 2011 06:26 GMT
#357
On February 22 2011 15:24 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Oh btw, I think Geoff kinda overhyped all of this :p.. I mean, this is fanstastic and everything, but with the hype it had around it, people COULDNT be satisfied with anything i think, mbe if itd wouldve been like a 1m prize pool for a year or something ridiclously.

And i can understand some of u are dissappointed, esp when Geoff made it sound like he had gotten ESPN to broadcast it primetime, but seriously! its the first day, this showmatch was a good "tester" of everything, and do u remember tastosis in the start? id dare to say that if they improve in a rate near what they did, theyre gonna be amazing in no time.



i seriously doubt that showmatch was even recorded in the actual studio. with the tournament being so far out, i wouldn't be surprised if the "studio" was nothing but an empty shell space.
I only make 5 actions per minute. But since I use all my time deliberating and planning, my 5 actions are so brutally devastating that children cry out and grown men weep.
Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
February 22 2011 06:28 GMT
#358
the show match was so boring compared to any normal GSL coverage, even with 2 of my favourite players in it. they should never have compared it so closely to GSL, it is such a let down.
Lephant
Profile Joined December 2010
United States9 Posts
February 22 2011 06:32 GMT
#359
PLEASE.. for the sake of every one in this community and for the sake of growing eSports, make Day9 the main commentator. Him and Artosis would be great IMO in a perfect sc2 world
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 06:34:46
February 22 2011 06:32 GMT
#360
3 hours of professional Starcraft every day, 5 days / week, 13 weeks per season, 3 seasons per year (this year)? Whoa. Add GSL to that, then some of daily/weekly starcraft casts/shows..

Whoa, I wonder how I'm going to find the time to watch all that. I wonder if after all that I can still find time to actually play the game! My mood:



I love this, 2011 will be a good year for SC2 and eSports.
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