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Jimmy Raynor
902 Posts
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Grettin
42393 Posts
On February 22 2011 16:29 kmkg wrote: Saw this questioned asked but not answered: Who is the main sponsor? Maybe there isn't an answer if it hasn't been answered yet. There was no mention of the main sponsor. Just funding by gosucoaching or something. There was only speculation abotu Incontrol having some discussions with intel, but i doubt Intel would sponsor this because of GSL. | ||
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
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mufin
United States616 Posts
On February 22 2011 15:43 Pcl.Busted wrote: Thats called incentive, if the South Korean's are the best in the world then they are the best in the world and everyone else is just gonna have to get better. If not then its no better then male and female tournaments. The best should be aloud to compete no matter their race, sex or nationality. Sounds like you want easy mode. you fail to see the bigger picture. Do you really think from a business stand point that the NASL would have more success with koreans occupying the top 16 spots? It would just be GSL, but with different casters. If I wanted to watch GSL I would watch GSL. To put it into perspective, say my friend recommended me to watch the NASL. Would I be more likely to keep watching if I saw players that spoke my language and shared my culture or if I saw players that needed to be paired with a translator at all times? Theirs a reason why koreans have less fans in the western world then foreign players and its certainly not because foreigners are the better players. Simply put, if NASL wants to grow, it has to cater to its audience. Just like GSL caters to foreigners (code A seeds, housing, etc...) because they know thats what their viewership wants to see. Its just good business, sorry. | ||
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betaV1.25
425 Posts
With this much money on the line, i dont see how they are gonna stop people from cheating while playing. Isnt it 2 easy to watch the stream and play at the same time? If i am correct i am predicting alot of "just when you say he is going to expand he sends out a scout, this guy has amazing game sense". I cant say i am overly exited about this mostly because of childish behavior Incontrol and Idra put on during the code a matches yesterday. (ref: calling huk a loser and laughing, making fun of the accent of kelly). And if you are going to charge about the same money as gsl, I would presume you are confident that you are going to reach the same production quality. I think these are very very high standards. | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
Also this 1000 man qualifier tournament is kind of discouraging for only 1 spot, the top 5 at least should make it into the tournament, or it should be seperated into 5 groups and the players that make it to the final from each group get to participate in the grand finals. I dunno im just not to excited about someone choosing who the best teams are. When there are players out there on smaller teams or no teams who could easily put up a fight and make it through the tournament who arent on one of the most "prestigious" teams. Obviously incontrol is putting himself in this tournament, im not saying he doesnt deserve it, but could you name 5 players on EG who deserve it more? | ||
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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betaV1.25
425 Posts
On February 22 2011 16:37 likeaboss wrote: I REALLLLLLLLLLLLLY wish that there were qualifying tournaments and I hope that they are not heavily relying on votes. as incontrol stated, the votes are just to get the community involved it has 0 impact on the actual invites. | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On February 22 2011 16:36 betaV1.25 wrote: If i understand it correctly, start of the league we will have 50 players, and the final 16 will be in a sort of lan. All of this will be casted live. With this much money on the line, i dont see how they are gonna stop people from cheating while playing. Isnt it 2 easy to watch the stream and play at the same time? If i am correct i am predicting alot of "just when you say he is going to expand he sends out a scout, this guy has amazing game sense". I cant say i am overly exited about this mostly because of childish behavior Incontrol and Idra put on during the code a matches yesterday. (ref: calling huk a loser and laughing, making fun of the accent of kelly). And if you are going to charge about the same money as gsl, I would presume you are confident that you are going to reach the same production quality. I think these are very very high standards. I totally agree with this cheating will be prevalent in this tournament another reason its not as exciting is that there isnt a studio for these players to play in having a studio with sound proof booths makes it 1000x more legit and more personal as you get to see reactions on players faces as they win or lose, and the ceremonies they may perform, the whole online tournament thing was kind of anti climactic | ||
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SwiftSpear
Canada355 Posts
On February 22 2011 16:36 mufin wrote: you fail to see the bigger picture. Do you really think from a business stand point that the NASL would have more success with koreans occupying the top 16 spots? It would just be GSL, but with different casters. If I wanted to watch GSL I would watch GSL. To put it into perspective, say my friend recommended me to watch the NASL. Would I be more likely to keep watching if I saw players that spoke my language and shared my culture or if I saw players that needed to be paired with a translator at all times? Theirs a reason why koreans have less fans in the western world then foreign players and its certainly not because foreigners are the better players. Simply put, if NASL wants to grow, it has to cater to its audience. Just like GSL caters to foreigners (code A seeds, housing, etc...) because they know thats what their viewership wants to see. Its just good business, sorry. From a business standpoint I think this organization should be playing the best players in the world, whoever they should be. They can't ever advertise they are a premier organization if they protect their players from real competition. | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On February 22 2011 15:55 hitman133 wrote: Wow, big fucking prize pools. This will make SC2 more and more interesting with countless tourney everyweek! Hehe, now I know why IdrA withdrew from GSL  its not like this tournament is starting next week there is no reason idra couldnt play through gsl march, hes just a scaredy cat imo, hes still in korea why isnt he playing tonight? lame | ||
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
I'll donate 25$ to help out a starving kid in Africa, and if I have leftovers I'll consider buying a ticket. Happy?  Although to be fair you can donate to people outside of Africa too!heheh | ||
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
On February 22 2011 15:45 Essentia wrote: Yeah its not like the NBA puts a "cap" on the amount of African Americans that are allowed to play in their league. But this happens in many other sports outside of North America. There is usually a cap of foreigners so teams can't buy cheap players from other countrys and then fill a whole team with them, because if that was the case domestic players would never have a chance to break through professionaly and get a spot in a team=/=league in their own country. So NASL do this so western esports can grow bigger and hopefully give us some new great players in the scene so why would we want a bunch of koreans to come here and take over a massive amount of spots? Also, with NASL they clearly want western esports to be superior in Starcraft 2, so thats also a good reason to not invite a huge amount of koreans for now. | ||
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Maaku
United Kingdom142 Posts
On February 22 2011 16:44 cheesemaster wrote: its not like this tournament is starting next week there is no reason idra couldnt play through gsl march, hes just a scaredy cat imo, hes still in korea why isnt he playing tonight? lame Hes gotta do more than just move there and play hes gonna be living in the us for a while so im sure he has a shit ton off things he will need to do before worrying about playing sc2 | ||
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Sueco
Sweden283 Posts
Where the F are HD and Husky? | ||
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thepotatoman
United States73 Posts
When I watch GSL or MLG I get to see those players live preparing right before that match and right behind them a crowd waiting and watching to see what he can do. That right there is a bigger story then any caster can make up about a player. When I watch online tournaments I just picture two people playing a game in their dark bedrooms in their pajamas and there's just nothing epic about that. I don't think any amount of crappy webcam interviews could fix that. The sad thing is I know there is no way around it right now. You can't ask people to move somewhere for 9 whole weeks and the weekend tournament that MLG does sucks because they can't cast all the games and your favorite player might get kicked out in the first round due any number of reason leaving you hard to get invested. Actually before I wrote this post I fully believed in the E-Sports is going to become big in NA in the future, but now I made myself sad because I no longer think that will be the case any time soon. Of course if they could get this tournament running off lan I'll be right there, for now I guess I'll keep with GSL. (obviously when i say lan i mean same room, not actually lan thanks to blizzard) | ||
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bLuR
Canada625 Posts
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Hyst3ria
United States167 Posts
But more on the serious side. This is great for Esports and Starcraft as a whole. Incontrol in all honesty just ignore (which I'm sure you are) the negative feedback coming from the part of the community that can't even surpass the inflated 3k diamond mark. This is the biggest consistent large prize pool I have ever seen (and I have been following many games for a very long time) and for people to reign on it because of the title "World Champion" and the qualifying phase being online is just stupid. I look forward to this and I thank you Geoff and everyone else behind this that worked their ass off to give SC2 the biggest video game tournaments in history. | ||
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trucane
United States553 Posts
Also the limit of five players from each team seems really stupid as well as the limit on koreans. | ||
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