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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 22 2011 03:04 GMT
#201
On February 22 2011 11:59 OminouS wrote:
Is the song in the announcement video from Lord of the Rings?

It's a mix on it, but yes.
Shanedon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States147 Posts
February 22 2011 03:05 GMT
#202
On February 22 2011 10:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I don't get the maximum 5 players per team thing wouldn't mind hearing more on it. I can think of maybe 2-3 teams who can line up 6 players that can all make a deep run in such a tournament. This whole rule seems to have a rather small impact on the tournament but it badly hurts a few individual players, and I don't see the gain in removing 2 world class players from your tournament because they share a team tag with 5 others. If they're good enough they're good enough.

Probably missing something about this rule but can't figure out what. Can't wait for additional information to come out.


I imagine the team can have an inhouse set of matches and the losers may be able to compete in the 1,000 man tourney for the round of 16 (if they cant, well, that is a problem), and who knows it may just be in place for the first 1-3 seasons, but having notable players in that huge "side" tourney would draw more attention to it, thus having a chance at bringing new stars to the scene at an early stage. Its all just speculation at this point, and we'll all just have to see how it pans out, but I couldn't be more excited, I've been waiting for this moment since I got into gaming.
Gyar...
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
February 22 2011 03:08 GMT
#203
If this tournament is full of foreign players with 3 or 4 Koreans I'll be disappointed. I want to see the best of the best.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
February 22 2011 03:09 GMT
#204
So will the final 16 be playing at the lan when the CODE S season finishes and gom goes on a gstl/codeA break ?

If so this will be perfect (: If not then us Australians will have 6-8 viewable hours of esports a day and none of us will ever finish education. WIN - WIN
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
February 22 2011 03:09 GMT
#205
On February 22 2011 11:54 Serpico wrote:
The cap on koreans might be good in the end, you're trying to grow esports in western countries and having koreans dominate it would alienate new viewers imo. May sound bad but from a business perspective it's probably smart.


Why the 5 Korean cap? the GSL doesn't have a 5 non Korean cap ... sounds like they are being exclusionary .... If you want to have a world class league let everyone play, if you have 80% Koreans so be it, All I want to see is the best play, like the TSL 3 lineup its amazing, maybe i am missing something but why would people watch 2nd and 3rd tear players when they can just watch the GSL and see the best? I think the jinro vs idra match showed how Korea is still the best place to be if you want to get better.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 22 2011 03:10 GMT
#206
Awesome info, I'm curious is this means Incontrol and Gretorp are going to be stepping back from playing? I know neither of then have played a ton lately
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Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 03:14:34
February 22 2011 03:12 GMT
#207
I did a bit of nosing through the SC2 international TLPD to take a look at how the 5 per team limit would affect teams. Based on a quick scan of elos of recognizable names, I started with an arbitrary threshold of 2100 elo, mostly as a way to stop myself from just cherrypicking names I was already familiar with. Looking at current elo rankings as a sanity check, there are 68 players with current elo > 2100, and 99 with peak elo > 2100, probably including a couple koreans from Blizzcon or similar which I was too lazy to filter out. So this seems like a reasonable (if admittedly still very arbitrary) threshold to merit consideration for inclusion. So looking at that, there are 3 teams with more than 5 players with peak elos above 2100, plus 3 honorable mentions:

Fnatic (7)
Liquid (6)
Root (6)

Honorable mentions with 5 players at 2100+ peak, plus one or more noted players from older RTSs or team leagues that haven't played enough solo tourneys to have an elo rank:
EG (5 + Grubby, Nyoken, Strifecro)
Millenium (5 + ToD)
Mouz (5 + Kolll, Dreiven)

If restricted to players currently over 2100 elo, Liquid with 6 is the only team hurt by this (again, under these admittedly extremely arbitrary standards).
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
February 22 2011 03:13 GMT
#208
I like that gretorp will be casting. I don't see him casting much but when he does i love it.
dmillz
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 03:19:10
February 22 2011 03:13 GMT
#209
Seriously, charging more than twice the rate of GSL is absurd. I'm going to stick with the far cheaper tournament with better players and casters.

2.5 times the price for 3 times as much content...yes that sounds way more expensive. </endsarcasm>

stop bashing it before you even give it a chance, watch some of the games THEN decide if its worth it,


d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
February 22 2011 03:13 GMT
#210
gonna have to be an eeyore here and raise some skepticism. Prize pool should scale with how much revenue one expects to draw from the event. Where will you get the revenue in this model? Off of $25 viewing packages? Internet advertising?

I'm sure there's much more going on than I'm aware of but as an uninformed observer these are my doubts
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Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 03:16:17
February 22 2011 03:14 GMT
#211
People don't read, do they?

The Korean limit is put into place so that...you know...people don't lag to shit. We're playing on the North American servers, considering this is a North American Star League. It's completely online until the finals, and Incontrol specifically cited lag issues when talking about the limit of Koreans in the main tournament. If a group of Koreans want to compete that didn't make it into the invites for the Open, let them jump into the qualifiers.

Are the competitors going to be pulled from all over the world?

Well the idea is to have the fifty best players. Now obviously, especially with Battle.net2.0, there are going to be physical limitations and restrictions for that. It will be played on the North American server. It is online until the 16-man offline finals. So we're considering having Koreans in the league as well, but probably capping them off at five or something like that. But if they were to play, unless they physically flew to a place that had a better latency for a North American server, they would have to deal with problems of time zone restrictions but also latency, and the same is true for Europeans and South Americans alike, obviously to varying degrees.

So that's just kind of a shame, obviously the dream would be to say “well we're just going to fly out the fifty best players to this remote location where they're going to be taken care of by bikini babes,” but we're not there just quite yet. But, we're going to do the best with what we have, and the idea is to crown a world champion. To find the best player in the whole world, and to the best of our abilities we're going to do that.

Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeZUJNUK



I can see Nazgul's concern, but I personally agree with Incontrol. It's a 50 person tournament, it'd be best to spread out the applicants over as many teams as possible. The generality of "Well, what teams can field more than 5 people?" doesn't take into account the fact that after this, we could very well begin seeing more than 5 great players per team. Because when you actually have a huge league to take part in, you're going to practice harder and get that much better. No one can argue that the lagging behind of American talent in the scene can at least in part be attributed to the fact that up until now most people on a Non-Korean pro-team would never actually be able to compete in a tournament the size of a GSL.

Keeping it to 5 per team would only seek to intensify the competition. And besides, I see this as a stopgap for the future, where the competition is more crowded.

As Incontrol said, there are going to be potholes and some major things going wrong in the first season. This, right here, is probably one of those potholes that most of us are freaking out about. But he hasn't said anything about how the spots are going for the 2nd and 3rd season, right?

And the second and third and fourth place people will also get rewards from the open. The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.


I think we can bring ourselves to wait until they decide to tell us how they're going to decide the competitors for the 2nd and 3rd season. If we all remember correctly, the GSL didn't really make it public knowledge (or, at least, it wasn't public knowledge on these forums) that Code S or Code A even existed until GSL Qualifier 2 or 3. Whichever one it was.
reyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States21 Posts
February 22 2011 03:15 GMT
#212
The voting process is very strange.

Votes have been fluctuating up and down, PiQliQ had ~12000 votes (and -3 comments, lol) and now i see it lowered to 8,500, Destiny had ~6500 votes (70comments) and now its about 5250. Pretty sure it was only Destiny's very enthusiastic viewers in chat, but for PiqliQ I kind of wonder.

So some strange voting issues but NASL seems legit nevertheless. ^_^
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 22 2011 03:17 GMT
#213

What other things are the premium members going to get? Is it going to be like GOM where they get VODs?

Yeah pretty much exactly like that. You'll get a season pass and then access to the high quality VODs. We're talking about creating additional content as well like giving them access to replays but then we thought that was kind of silly because it only takes one person to get a replay and then the whole internet has the replay.


will there be normal quality vods too? or gsl style only vods if you pay?
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
February 22 2011 03:19 GMT
#214
My real big question is why 50 players? Some people are going to get buys through rounds and who chooses who gets a buy?

Its 5 divisions of 10 people... But after the first round you end up with 5 players, so someone gets a buy... Less I don't understand the format.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 22 2011 03:19 GMT
#215
So is there a prize for runner up and semi finalists?
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
February 22 2011 03:20 GMT
#216
Where can we vote?
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terramagra
Profile Joined September 2010
United States52 Posts
February 22 2011 03:21 GMT
#217
On February 22 2011 12:15 reyk wrote:
The voting process is very strange.

Votes have been fluctuating up and down, PiQliQ had ~12000 votes (and -3 comments, lol) and now i see it lowered to 8,500, Destiny had ~6500 votes (70comments) and now its about 5250. Pretty sure it was only Destiny's very enthusiastic viewers in chat, but for PiqliQ I kind of wonder.

So some strange voting issues but NASL seems legit nevertheless. ^_^



You can change your votes.

Thanks iNcontrol, this looks awesome.
Noev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1105 Posts
February 22 2011 03:22 GMT
#218
On February 22 2011 12:04 Ezze wrote:
In my opinion this will be quite successful if they bring in Tastosis or day9. I've started to realize that casters are what makes or breaks my enjoyment of a stream. Most definitely not paying $25 to listen to incontrol and gretorp. Nothing personal against them, but they just aren't good casters.

Also, how is piqliq getting like a million votes? Did I miss something?


One of the questions in the interview asked about day9 and incontrol made it clear they went to him early but he is a really busy guy and wasn't ready to commit lots of time to an unsure thing, but he was willing to do some cast every now and then. relax if this thing gets big im sure that day and many other big casters will get involved.
unaliased
Profile Joined September 2010
United States83 Posts
February 22 2011 03:22 GMT
#219
On February 22 2011 12:19 Insanious wrote:
My real big question is why 50 players? Some people are going to get buys through rounds and who chooses who gets a buy?

Its 5 divisions of 10 people... But after the first round you end up with 5 players, so someone gets a buy... Less I don't understand the format.

I believe it's going to be more of a round robin style tournament.
cronican
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada424 Posts
February 22 2011 03:23 GMT
#220
On February 22 2011 12:19 Insanious wrote:
My real big question is why 50 players? Some people are going to get buys through rounds and who chooses who gets a buy?

Its 5 divisions of 10 people... But after the first round you end up with 5 players, so someone gets a buy... Less I don't understand the format.


It's group play. All 10 players play each other in a best of 3. top 3 advance to round of 16.
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