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Hey iNControl this is awesome.
But you'll face shitloads of flack, whiny nerds etc. so either steel yourself and don't let it get to your or give the reins to someone who can. Just a comment on the replies when I see you pleading people do be happy; Just check out the GomTV comments/forums, its 90% trolling or whining.
Anyway I'll pay for the service, hope this turns out good. Haters gonna hate, so just do yer godamn best and give us some good games.
Also put up some official topic already and answer the misunderstandings that people go haywire about, like the "5 koreams omg?" and "5 from 1 team only!?" etc. because its painfull to see so much whine regarding something that should be celebrated.
On that note, shape up people and stop with the uneccery hating. Constructive feedback is surely something they want but alot of questions or replies are just whine or hearsay about rumours...
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On February 22 2011 11:39 Coramoor wrote:
i seriously don't get the fact you need to be on a team, a lot of the koreans got their start without a team, what's the rational for that decision
Start ur own team. Spend 15 minutes on a Wordpress blog/website. Name yourself the manager. DONE!
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On February 22 2011 11:39 Coramoor wrote:
i seriously don't get the fact you need to be on a team, a lot of the koreans got their start without a team, what's the rational for that decision
I haven't seen anything so far that indicates that players need to be on a team. If anything, they disadvantage teams by not letting them field 5 players, so they are giving a small advantage to team-less players  If they do require teams, I guess you could invent your own. I've reserved the name Team Awesome.
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I am very interested to find out who the players will be.. also interested in a premium ticket!
Great job!
XD
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So is it only three seasons then it dies out?
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So here's a few things I'm assuming, and if I'm wrong I hope they do it like this.
Ok first the 50 people invited. This doesn't really fit for the first tournament but the rest should work like this:
the 15 in the grand finals tournament reinvited
top 5 places in the open get invited
10 people who are highest in popularity vote not already invited
5 people invited from Korea
5 people invited from Europe
top 10 NA ladder not already invited
so there's your 50
Now some might say "Oh no it's geared too much toward NA ladder!" But that's a good thing quite frankly, and I hope that helps raise the bar for the NA ladder skill levels. Just think of it like what the GSL has a preliminary based on foreigners plus the top 100 or whatever on their ladder.
Edit: Oh and about the limit of 5 per team, I think that's only for the division play considerations and not the Open 1000 man tournament.
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PiQLiQ is actually dropping in votes.
So is Destiny.
I think the mods of the site are checking IP addresses?
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Thinking about the team rule/korean 'rule' etc. it might not be such a bad idea. I mean they are getting a tournament started, and since the SC2 scene pretty formed by now there are some players who are noteably dominant. Inviting those players will attract the audience and the with that sponsors. Limiting the amount of players of a team also increases the variaty of players and teams.
However I think this is only good for getting underway with the first season of the league, there are many ways to get a league started and inviting people is one, though I'd say they should switch to an open tournament for the following seasons. With the top ~50 or top~100 of the open tournament being able to qualify using some up/down match format as seen in the GSL. So the top 50 of the open tournament vs the non lan-qualifiers of the invited players for example.
If they'd had to make an open qualifier like the GSL, as many people suggest, there would be a huge problem with time. The GSL takes like lan qualifiers for like a week? This also has some huge disadvantages, more in the western countries than in Korea. Most western top players have a full-time/part-time job or are full-time students. If for whatever reason (exams/work-shedule/business trip/personal life etc) they are not able to go to/play the qualifier, that is, in a way, unfair to them. Especially since this more of an EU/NA thing rather than just a NA thing. This can be solved going TSL style but it takes a damn long time, and don't we all want to see this get started? :D
It's just very difficult to make 'fair' and 'reasonable' limitations, people will always be upset about some choices but that's just the way it is. The organizers have to make the choices they think will work best in the long run.
Another thing having invites can balance the amount of T/P/Z in the tournament a lot. Everybody knows how much QQ there is about Z being UP, P late-game deathball impossible to stop etc. Using invites the tournament can have a bigger variaty of races which makes it in my opinion more interesting to watch. An open qualifier would most likely lead to a very T and P dominated tournament, as TSL open qualifier data shows.
Just wanted to add that to the discussion, having these limitations for the first tournament is not such a bad thing.
edit typo
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On February 22 2011 11:46 Slakkoo wrote:
So is it only three seasons then it dies out?
Read the OP, it clearly states what may or may not happen after 3 seasons.
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The cap on koreans might be good in the end, you're trying to grow esports in western countries and having koreans dominate it would alienate new viewers imo. May sound bad but from a business perspective it's probably smart.
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Just wanted to ask since its not a lan tournament how is cheating going tobe handled? Im guessing some sort of delayed stream but idk seems like seeing a player in a booth is the for sure way on this. Obviously logistics is a problem but maybe offer some sort of playerhousing in the future discount or free whichever.
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Is the song in the announcement video from Lord of the Rings?
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On February 22 2011 11:53 PartyBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 11:46 Slakkoo wrote:
So is it only three seasons then it dies out? Read the OP, it clearly states what may or may not happen after 3 seasons.
It's absolutely, 100% insured for 3 seasons (1 year, iirc).
Then, based on popularity and how everything is going at a later time, there will be decisions to either keep it going or stop NASL.
So everyone should support it to its fullest and stop QQing, because this could make or break e-sports in the West! <3
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On February 22 2011 11:58 BandonBanshee wrote:
I cant stop lactating
lol... I use as my sig now...
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On February 22 2011 11:39 antilyon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 11:35 jalstar wrote:On February 22 2011 11:25 Gofarman wrote:On February 22 2011 10:43 Pinith wrote:
I really think they'd stand to make as much money and satisfy a lot more viewers with a lower premium price, I'm not sure I'm down with $25 a season compared to $10 for a GSL season 25$ for 3 months as compared to 10$ for 1 month, hrmmm. Sounds like a great deal for fans to me, AND you get ESPORTS dollars at a 1:1 ratio when the currency goes live. + Show Spoiler +uNcontroLable will guarantee them, I'm sure That's not the point, just because you have more games in the early round doesn't mean you can charge more. Considering how awful GSL Ro64 or Code A games are do you really think that a group of 50 non-Koreans will play better? i really enjoyed tourneys like screddit invitational, root invitational, assembly... and they're all foreigners isn't?
If you would pay to see the tournaments you mentioned, you're probably the only one. Seriously, charging more than twice the rate of GSL is absurd. I'm going to stick with the far cheaper tournament with better players and casters.
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Does anyone know who's sponsoring all this? E-sports jesus?
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I am really excited for this. It will be nice to be able to watch a sc2 league without having to stay up way late. Huzzah for sc2 + being able to sleep!
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In my opinion this will be quite successful if they bring in Tastosis or day9. I've started to realize that casters are what makes or breaks my enjoyment of a stream. Most definitely not paying $25 to listen to incontrol and gretorp. Nothing personal against them, but they just aren't good casters.
Also, how is piqliq getting like a million votes? Did I miss something?
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