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dbnk
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada15 Posts
January 21 2011 20:27 GMT
#221
Wow, I completely agree not only with the selection of the map pool for the GSL, but also the whole PvZ and the air builds. Thank you artosis for the wicked interviews!
Heraklitus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States553 Posts
January 21 2011 20:28 GMT
#222
Thanks, IdrA, for speaking your mind.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 21 2011 20:30 GMT
#223
Great interview!

Think Idra may be being a little pessimistic about Zerg chances next GSL given we should be getting some new maps, but we shall see I guess
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 21 2011 20:30 GMT
#224
Artosis, please marry me?
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 21 2011 20:31 GMT
#225
damn idra is such an awesome person i dont see how anyone who puts the time into getting to know the guy beyond his ladder bm would not like the dude. best of luck and looking forward to the streaming.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
January 21 2011 20:33 GMT
#226
Awesome interview, as usual from IdrA. Thanks for everything Artosis, it's great to have someone w/ your connections who also cares enough about the community to provide so much amazing content.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
January 21 2011 20:33 GMT
#227
LOL look at his face when artosis mentions clide
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
January 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#228
Damn, people talking about Tastosis, why no1 talks about Idrosis ?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
vali
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands59 Posts
January 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#229
Good job on the video's artosis keep em up!!!
Death by a tank
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
January 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#230
Awesome video. IdrA is a really interesting guy to listen to.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
January 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#231
IdrA is still very impressive considering he's probably the only person in GSL who doesn't have actual practice partners besides the occasional foreign help (Ret & Artosis).
the farm ends here
H0i
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands484 Posts
January 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#232
On January 22 2011 03:32 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 03:14 H0i wrote:
Nice interview.

Now talking about idra, I think he's just too much of a whiner. This constant whining of zerg being too weak is not going to change anything, if he keeps thinking his race is weak then that's not going to make him win more.

As a master league random/protoss player I admit say that it can be frustrating to play zerg on small maps, but the main reason so few protoss and zerg make it to Ro8 or Ro4 is because they are underrepresented. When the game was very new terran was a lot stronger, you can say op, because people did not know how to deal with them. Everyone picked terran and now we have an overdose of GSL terran players. The balance changes that were made help to even things out, and people found out new strategies. The game is a lot more fair than before and it's going in the right direction. If only guys like idra (and everyone else who whines about balance) stops whining and starts thinking of new ways to win then the situation might improve more.

Look at fruitdealer and nestea, look at mc. They did things differently and won GSL's.


But Fruitdealer and Nestea are whining a lot too. And you are dead wrong if you think a player of the caliber of IdrA doesnt think of "new ways" to win. I have a big problem with no-names whining and not trying to improve their plays, but progamers of that caliber know what they are talking about, you shouldnt question them this much.


(warning, GSL spoiler in this post)

Idra's whining is just too much, he's basically saying that he's the better player but that he loses every game because of his race. He doesn't even say what he thinks needs changing, he just cries "OP". But who doesn't whine? We all do that sometimes.There's the player who whines, and the player who doesn't and tries to be very confident and sure of himself, and then kind of breaks down when they lose (see: mc's face and attitude after he lost).

Playing zerg in SC2 feels a lot weaker and claustrophobic for some reason, maybe this is what makes a lot of people think that zerg is a lot weaker. I'm all for a buff to zerg (and a nerf to roaches) and a buff to protoss gateway units (midgame, like better scaling stalkers). However I think that zerg (and protoss a bit) need some more variation on their unit choices, which won't happen until the expansion.

The things that hurt zerg the most are lame rushes and all ins, like bunker rushes. Combine that with tiny tiny maps that have ramps just to " balance*** " these rushes... well let's just say rushes are too strong and take the fun out of the game. If jinro didn't bunker idra in and if idra didn't do a 6-pool, idra would have a fair chance to win. Don't get me wrong I wanted jinro to win and I think that jinro is the better player, but I think that idra could have won 2 games at least if those games were "normal" games and not rush games.

***(Like protoss having to forcefield the ramp to hold off certain rushes, that is a fundamental game design flaw)
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
January 21 2011 20:38 GMT
#233
On January 22 2011 05:24 me_viet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 03:58 Eric9 wrote:
On January 22 2011 03:35 Roggay wrote:
On January 22 2011 03:21 ToDoNtE wrote:
should have asked if he's thinking about changing race !


IdrA answered this question times and times again. Although he thinks Zerg is weak atm, he will not change races (although he is playing toss a bit) because he invested so much time into Zerg.


what terrible logic, are u sure he's a pro? He could invest the time from now until the next big tourney practicing another race. If he's as good as people say he is it should be no problem.

User was temp banned for this post.



lol it takes AGES to master a race well. or get anywhere good enuff to compete at a pro level. Some example of race changes includes TLO and Morrow. Two very good Terran since the start of the beta.

THey made the change to Zerg. This is in no way dis-respecting them but they have not made any big splash lately. They kind of just dropped from the radar. I remember back then TLO with his ingenius Terran play and Morrow winning many of the tournaments. This could also be because I haven't been following Sc2 as closely as I was back in the holidays, but still. THe point is, it's NOT easy to switch race especially at the level they're at atm.

Telling your sponsor "oh hai, i'm just gonna lose for the next couple of months, you still willing to sponsor me though?" is NOT good considering that's probably Idra's only form of income is.

Actually TLO now plays random(more like chooses race based on the map and opponent if rules allow it) and won some tournament recently, Morrow plays very well now and lately finishes in top spots of tournaments, but no wins if I remember.
RuN1
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil13 Posts
January 21 2011 20:41 GMT
#234
Great interview ! Thanks Artosis !
Its no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 21 2011 20:44 GMT
#235
Really fun interview. Idra never appears to get down from losses like this. Also I like how he remains painfully blunt (esp about Nada maybe throwing a game). I'm sure he's furious about not advancing but CJ taught him well.

Really good explanation about leaving so quickly on meta too.

Great job Artosis/Idra.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
January 21 2011 20:44 GMT
#236
On January 22 2011 03:36 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
all his streaming plans sound familiar because they're exactly what im doing! :D

IdrA using dreamsharing to steal Tyler's ideas? I feel like we have Inception's sequel right here.....

Seriously though, it's nice to hear his thoughts on what happened. Thanks artosis.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
January 21 2011 20:44 GMT
#237
honestly if idra played t since the beggining he would have been 2x better than he is now
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
January 21 2011 20:45 GMT
#238
Idra said:

"Zergs souldn't win"
So is the Zerg so underpowered at the moment? Coming from such a high level progamer, we can't help but be puzzled.

"Nestea is going to get destroyed"
In my opinion he is going to get destroyed because he plays against IMMvp, not because he plays ZvT.
o choro é livre
Joroth
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States318 Posts
January 21 2011 20:50 GMT
#239
IdrA is the best now he's posting content? he gets like 4k viewers when he streams randomly i can't begin to imagine the amount of people a 2 hour show is going to bring.
"you have buildings that are better than my race go fuck yourself" -IdrA
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#240
On January 22 2011 05:44 TT1 wrote:
honestly if idra played t since the beggining he would have been 2x better than he is now


But he has self respect .

I really hope he starts streaming tonight :D
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