EPTIdrA on why he left so fast vs Jinro and more! - Page 12
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dbnk
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Heraklitus
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Asha
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Think Idra may be being a little pessimistic about Zerg chances next GSL given we should be getting some new maps, but we shall see I guess | ||
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H0i
Netherlands484 Posts
On January 22 2011 03:32 Roggay wrote: But Fruitdealer and Nestea are whining a lot too. And you are dead wrong if you think a player of the caliber of IdrA doesnt think of "new ways" to win. I have a big problem with no-names whining and not trying to improve their plays, but progamers of that caliber know what they are talking about, you shouldnt question them this much. (warning, GSL spoiler in this post) Idra's whining is just too much, he's basically saying that he's the better player but that he loses every game because of his race. He doesn't even say what he thinks needs changing, he just cries "OP". But who doesn't whine? We all do that sometimes.There's the player who whines, and the player who doesn't and tries to be very confident and sure of himself, and then kind of breaks down when they lose (see: mc's face and attitude after he lost). Playing zerg in SC2 feels a lot weaker and claustrophobic for some reason, maybe this is what makes a lot of people think that zerg is a lot weaker. I'm all for a buff to zerg (and a nerf to roaches) and a buff to protoss gateway units (midgame, like better scaling stalkers). However I think that zerg (and protoss a bit) need some more variation on their unit choices, which won't happen until the expansion. The things that hurt zerg the most are lame rushes and all ins, like bunker rushes. Combine that with tiny tiny maps that have ramps just to " balance*** " these rushes... well let's just say rushes are too strong and take the fun out of the game. If jinro didn't bunker idra in and if idra didn't do a 6-pool, idra would have a fair chance to win. Don't get me wrong I wanted jinro to win and I think that jinro is the better player, but I think that idra could have won 2 games at least if those games were "normal" games and not rush games. ***(Like protoss having to forcefield the ramp to hold off certain rushes, that is a fundamental game design flaw) | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On January 22 2011 05:24 me_viet wrote: lol it takes AGES to master a race well. or get anywhere good enuff to compete at a pro level. Some example of race changes includes TLO and Morrow. Two very good Terran since the start of the beta. THey made the change to Zerg. This is in no way dis-respecting them but they have not made any big splash lately. They kind of just dropped from the radar. I remember back then TLO with his ingenius Terran play and Morrow winning many of the tournaments. This could also be because I haven't been following Sc2 as closely as I was back in the holidays, but still. THe point is, it's NOT easy to switch race especially at the level they're at atm. Telling your sponsor "oh hai, i'm just gonna lose for the next couple of months, you still willing to sponsor me though?" is NOT good considering that's probably Idra's only form of income is. Actually TLO now plays random(more like chooses race based on the map and opponent if rules allow it) and won some tournament recently, Morrow plays very well now and lately finishes in top spots of tournaments, but no wins if I remember. | ||
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RuN1
Brazil13 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Really good explanation about leaving so quickly on meta too. Great job Artosis/Idra. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On January 22 2011 03:36 Liquid`Tyler wrote: all his streaming plans sound familiar because they're exactly what im doing! :D IdrA using dreamsharing to steal Tyler's ideas? I feel like we have Inception's sequel right here..... Seriously though, it's nice to hear his thoughts on what happened. Thanks artosis. | ||
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TT1
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Al Bundy
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"Zergs souldn't win" So is the Zerg so underpowered at the moment? Coming from such a high level progamer, we can't help but be puzzled. "Nestea is going to get destroyed" In my opinion he is going to get destroyed because he plays against IMMvp, not because he plays ZvT. | ||
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Joroth
United States318 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 22 2011 05:44 TT1 wrote: honestly if idra played t since the beggining he would have been 2x better than he is now But he has self respect  .I really hope he starts streaming tonight :D | ||
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