IdrA on why he left so fast vs Jinro and more!

On January 22 2011 03:11 Healingproof wrote:
Hahaha i love you Artosis. IdrA is so biased it's not even funny lol.

On January 22 2011 03:16 travis wrote:
idra is the most pessimistic guy lol

On January 22 2011 03:11 Healingproof wrote:
Hahaha i love you Artosis. IdrA is so biased it's not even funny lol.

On January 22 2011 03:14 H0i wrote:
Now talking about idra, I think he's just too much of a whiner. This constant whining of zerg being too weak is not going to change anything, if he keeps thinking his race is weak then that's not going to make him win more.

On January 22 2011 03:17 Drey wrote:


Funny, people used to say hes the most cocky player a couple of months ago.

On January 22 2011 03:14 H0i wrote:
Nice interview.

Now talking about idra, I think he's just too much of a whiner. This constant whining of zerg being too weak is not going to change anything, if he keeps thinking his race is weak then that's not going to make him win more.

As a master league random/protoss player I admit say that it can be frustrating to play zerg on small maps, but the main reason so few protoss and zerg make it to Ro8 or Ro4 is because they are underrepresented. When the game was very new terran was a lot stronger, you can say op, because people did not know how to deal with them. Everyone picked terran and now we have an overdose of GSL terran players. The balance changes that were made help to even things out, and people found out new strategies. The game is a lot more fair than before and it's going in the right direction. If only guys like idra (and everyone else who whines about balance) stops whining and starts thinking of new ways to win then the situation might improve more.

Look at fruitdealer and nestea, look at mc. They did things differently and won GSL's.

On January 22 2011 03:27 Jayrod wrote:
idra cracks me up man. When zerg was buffed 2 patches ago he said he cant see losing a game to terran and that he wont have trouble with any protoss. 1 patch comes through where they actually nerf terran a little bit and now suddenly out of no where zerg cant win any game ever

On January 22 2011 03:27 Jayrod wrote:
idra cracks me up man. When zerg was buffed 2 patches ago he said he cant see losing a game to terran and that he wont have trouble with any protoss. 1 patch comes through where they actually nerf terran a little bit and now suddenly out of no where zerg cant win any game ever

On January 22 2011 03:14 H0i wrote:
Nice interview.

Now talking about idra, I think he's just too much of a whiner. This constant whining of zerg being too weak is not going to change anything, if he keeps thinking his race is weak then that's not going to make him win more.

As a master league random/protoss player I admit say that it can be frustrating to play zerg on small maps, but the main reason so few protoss and zerg make it to Ro8 or Ro4 is because they are underrepresented. When the game was very new terran was a lot stronger, you can say op, because people did not know how to deal with them. Everyone picked terran and now we have an overdose of GSL terran players. The balance changes that were made help to even things out, and people found out new strategies. The game is a lot more fair than before and it's going in the right direction. If only guys like idra (and everyone else who whines about balance) stops whining and starts thinking of new ways to win then the situation might improve more.

Look at fruitdealer and nestea, look at mc. They did things differently and won GSL's.

On January 22 2011 03:27 Jayrod wrote:
idra cracks me up man. When zerg was buffed 2 patches ago he said he cant see losing a game to terran and that he wont have trouble with any protoss. 1 patch comes through where they actually nerf terran a little bit and now suddenly out of no where zerg cant win any game ever

On January 22 2011 03:27 Jayrod wrote:
idra cracks me up man. When zerg was buffed 2 patches ago he said he cant see losing a game to terran and that he wont have trouble with any protoss. 1 patch comes through where they actually nerf terran a little bit and now suddenly out of no where zerg cant win any game ever

On January 22 2011 03:21 ToDoNtE wrote:
should have asked if he's thinking about changing race !

On January 22 2011 03:33 HeroHenry wrote:
Even idra says MKP is going to beat jinro

On January 22 2011 03:29 nihlon wrote:


I'm pretty sure Idra would have a problem with your paraphrases.

On January 22 2011 03:36 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
all his streaming plans sound familiar because they're exactly what im doing! :D

On January 22 2011 03:14 IAmSpooner wrote:


I find this incredibly ironic.

On January 22 2011 03:36 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
all his streaming plans sound familiar because they're exactly what im doing! :D

On January 22 2011 03:38 Jayrod wrote:

I was actually more fair to idra than what he originally said in making him sound like something other than a biased little kid. Someone can pull up an interview but it was the roach range patch and just before he went to MLG.

I'll accept that maybe terrans hadn't figured it out or whatever, but im inclined to believe maybe zerg has to figure things out like terran did for a month or so before the pendulum swings back.

The truth is as a "pro gamer" im guessing you kind of rely on ... oh i dont know... making money or winning to maintain a career. If everything is so broken, he should switch races and just win it all everytime because idras soooooooooooo effing good. I mean seriously, does anyone think this guy is good enough to win a GSL? On ANY race? Idras right that he was lucky to win a couple of those games or that his opponents made poor decisions... but to me that indicates that they are just flat out better players... its got nothing to do with race. .. Maps maybe... but those havent changed either.

On January 22 2011 03:39 BetterFasterStronger wrote:

They are both kind of biased... but its very hard to disagree with what IdrA says... Its not like hes saying "OMG ZERG CAN'T COUNTER MARINES ZERG IS UP." Zerg can't win against people who are equal skill or close to it. Nestea's run is proof of that. At this point in the game its very easy to abuse zerg. All you have to do is Stop or slow down their expansions.

Anyway. Good interview IdrArtosis (AHAH THE NEW ARCHON!) Glad to hear that IdrA will be giving some analysis. It will help a lot to understand the though processes behind pro gaming and what players specifically look for.

On January 22 2011 03:36 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
all his streaming plans sound familiar because they're exactly what im doing! :D

On January 22 2011 03:39 MollocH wrote:
What I realy like about Idra (actualy I'm a big fan) is that he says what he thinks. And regarding his frustration and rage, he's realy realy objective in his interviews. (even if I think, that Nestea is more than a good player)

On January 22 2011 03:40 BetterFasterStronger wrote:

Maybe you stole it from him!

On January 22 2011 03:42 Odoakar wrote:
Maps maps maps maps maps maps maps....


It's pathetic how hard Idra wants Nestea to lose just so he can complain more about Zerg. I was planning cheering for MVP, but now I'd really love to see Nestea taking the whole tournament

On January 22 2011 03:42 Odoakar wrote:
Maps maps maps maps maps maps maps....


It's pathetic how hard Idra wants Nestea to lose just so he can complain more about Zerg. I was planning cheering for MVP, but now I'd really love to see Nestea taking the whole tournament

On January 22 2011 03:16 travis wrote:
idra is the most pessimistic guy lol

On January 22 2011 03:38 Jayrod wrote:

I was actually more fair to idra than what he originally said in making him sound like something other than a biased little kid. Someone can pull up an interview but it was the roach range patch and just before he went to MLG.

I'll accept that maybe terrans hadn't figured it out or whatever, but im inclined to believe maybe zerg has to figure things out like terran did for a month or so before the pendulum swings back.

The truth is as a "pro gamer" im guessing you kind of rely on ... oh i dont know... making money or winning to maintain a career. If everything is so broken, he should switch races and just win it all everytime because idras soooooooooooo effing good. I mean seriously, does anyone think this guy is good enough to win a GSL? On ANY race? Idras right that he was lucky to win a couple of those games or that his opponents made poor decisions... but to me that indicates that they are just flat out better players... its got nothing to do with race. .. Maps maybe... but those havent changed either.

On January 22 2011 03:46 Odoakar wrote:


No. He wants him to lose. He says that he will lose, but you can see that he wants it. He wants all the zerg to be bad, so he can than have excuse for his own failings. I've met people like that and honestly I can't stand them.

But that's just my opinion, I might very well be wrong.

On January 22 2011 03:46 Odoakar wrote:


No. He wants him to lose. He says that he will lose, but you can see that he wants it. He wants all the zerg to be bad, so he can than have excuse for his own failings. I've met people like that and honestly I can't stand them.

But that's just my opinion, I might very well be wrong.

On January 22 2011 03:46 Odoakar wrote:


No. He wants him to lose. He says that he will lose, but you can see that he wants it. He wants all the zerg to be bad, so he can than have excuse for his own failings. I've met people like that and honestly I can't stand them.

But that's just my opinion, I might very well be wrong.

On January 22 2011 03:35 Roggay wrote:


IdrA answered this question times and times again. Although he thinks Zerg is weak atm, he will not change races (although he is playing toss a bit) because he invested so much time into Zerg.

On January 22 2011 03:36 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
all his streaming plans sound familiar because they're exactly what im doing! :D

On January 22 2011 03:58 Eric9 wrote:


what terrible logic, are u sure he's a pro? He could invest the time from now until the next big tourney practicing another race. If he's as good as people say he is it should be no problem.

On January 22 2011 03:48 taintmachine wrote:


k well i decided to look it up to clarify things

both interviews

http://www.blgaming.com/content/mlg-dc-coverage-interview-idra

Hafu: What are your thoughts on the new patch? Does it affect your gameplay?

Idra: The new patch is awesome, I don't think I'm going to lose to Terran for a month. It helps a lot versus protoss as the extra road range, it kind of nullifies a lot of builds that Protoss use. It's just a great patch in general for Zerg, I'm very very happy about it.

http://www.myegamer.com/posts/7d7b70b5ce80d83cf6818ce62b859223

MLG: Are you pleased with the way the patch is working out so far?

Idra: Yes, definitely. I believe ZvT is pretty close to balanced right now—it's actually going to seem Z>T for a while as bad Terrans disappear and the remaining ones have to adapt to a new style of play. ZvP is certainly much better, but I'm waiting for the matchup to settle into the new patch before making any real comment on it. My only real complaint is that they still haven't addressed ZvZ, but the matchup is slowly making progress on its own so patching might be unnecessary in the long run.

kek

On January 22 2011 04:01 nekuodah wrote:
I love how everyone on this forum starts screaming zerg imbalance when idrA says it, for him yes it could be because hes playing at the top tier, whereas a large majority (making this up but wouldnt suprise me) here are too busy crying imbalance to fix the major flaws in their gameplay.

On topic: i love you artosis great interview and i personally cannot wait to check out idrA's streams again.

On January 22 2011 04:05 Helios.Star wrote:


God I'm sick of this "pros know everything and theyre always right so shut up and agree with them" sentiment that so many people seem to share. You do know other people play the game, and like to express their opinions right? How would you know whether or not the "no-names" are trying to improve their play? Just being pro doesnt make you right, and not being pro doesnt make you wrong.

On January 22 2011 04:07 Jayrod wrote:

Ya the first one is the one i had in mind but the second one actually proves my point as well. So its balanced, a month later after terrans adapt and zergs basically do no sort of adapting everythings completely imba again and zerg needs another patch that honestly isn't coming anyways. How about he starts coming up with some answers than complaining all the time? You dont go from close to balanced to clearly imbalanced because of adaptation... its either close to balanced or not... shit doesnt change that drastically in one month with discovery, the game has barely changed.

I just get irritated that idra says something like this and every platinum level zerg gets on here and says hes 100% accurate, giving them an excuse that really doesn't address actual zerg problems. Here's the thing. Even if you are 2500 in master's you aren't good enough to focus on balance rather than improving your play. The difficulties dont affect you the same way they affect idra. That's a fact.

On January 22 2011 04:05 Helios.Star wrote:


God I'm sick of this "pros know everything and theyre always right so shut up and agree with them" sentiment that so many people seem to share. You do know other people play the game, and like to express their opinions right? How would you know whether or not the "no-names" are trying to improve their play? Just being pro doesnt make you right, and not being pro doesnt make you wrong.

On January 22 2011 04:07 Jayrod wrote:

Ya the first one is the one i had in mind but the second one actually proves my point as well. So its balanced, a month later after terrans adapt and zergs basically do no sort of adapting everythings completely imba again and zerg needs another patch that honestly isn't coming anyways. How about he starts coming up with some answers than complaining all the time? You dont go from close to balanced to clearly imbalanced because of adaptation... its either close to balanced or not... shit doesnt change that drastically in one month with discovery, the game has barely changed.

I just get irritated that idra says something like this and every platinum level zerg gets on here and says hes 100% accurate, giving them an excuse that really doesn't address actual zerg problems. Here's the thing. Even if you are 2500 in master's you aren't good enough to focus on balance rather than improving your play. The difficulties dont affect you the same way they affect idra. That's a fact.

On January 22 2011 03:14 H0i wrote:
Nice interview.

Now talking about idra, I think he's just too much of a whiner. This constant whining of zerg being too weak is not going to change anything, if he keeps thinking his race is weak then that's not going to make him win more.

As a master league random/protoss player I admit say that it can be frustrating to play zerg on small maps, but the main reason so few protoss and zerg make it to Ro8 or Ro4 is because they are underrepresented. When the game was very new terran was a lot stronger, you can say op, because people did not know how to deal with them. Everyone picked terran and now we have an overdose of GSL terran players. The balance changes that were made help to even things out, and people found out new strategies. The game is a lot more fair than before and it's going in the right direction. If only guys like idra (and everyone else who whines about balance) stops whining and starts thinking of new ways to win then the situation might improve more.

Look at fruitdealer and nestea, look at mc. They did things differently and won GSL's.

On January 22 2011 04:15 VikingKong wrote:


You're right, being a pro doesn't necessarily mean they're right. On the other hand, being a pro means they spend a shitload more time than anyone else. Which 'no-name', to use your phrase, spends as much time as a top-tier pro like Idra playing and analyzing their play? So no, being pro isn't what makes them right. Them spending more time than anyone else is what is making them right, and their opinions more valued.

On the topic of the interview, I think it's interesting that in his Gosutrolling interview he said that MKP was the most overrated player, but he still thinks that he'll beat Jinro, who he acknowledges as a good Terran. I can see why he hates Choya though, but Choya has such a cheesy style it's pretty fun to actually watch.

Thanks for the interview Artosis!

On January 22 2011 03:39 BetterFasterStronger wrote:

They are both kind of biased... but its very hard to disagree with what IdrA says... Its not like hes saying "OMG ZERG CAN'T COUNTER MARINES ZERG IS UP." Zerg can't win against people who are equal skill or close to it. Nestea's run is proof of that. At this point in the game its very easy to abuse zerg. All you have to do is Stop or slow down their expansions.

On January 22 2011 04:24 Zarahtra wrote:

I just don't think he sees how insanely good zerg is lategame and just totally ignores it therefore. The game can only be balanced if you take all the strengths/weaknesses into account. I'd still love a inject nerf/natural larvae regen buff as a way to try to equalize it a bit.

On January 22 2011 03:36 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
all his streaming plans sound familiar because they're exactly what im doing! :D

On January 22 2011 04:32 Patriot.dlk wrote:
Hrmm the new maps will they be used next season? If so I don't agree with Idras lack of faith in zerg.

Other then that I really liked the questions and answers

I find it curious that Idra and Athosis are convinced MVP will take the GSL4, when he choked pretty badly in the 3 previous tournaments. I guess we'll see :D Personally i can't wait for the games

On January 22 2011 04:27 Ilikestarcraft wrote:

I think Mkp is overrated when it comes to his other mu's but he probably has the best tvt right now. The only one who has a chance right now in tvt vs him is Mvp.

On January 22 2011 04:20 Herculix wrote:


he did come up with answers, jesus christ. do you think he just throws up his arms and cries imba without doing anything? a reasonable person gets to a conclusion like idra has by meticulously analyzing the situation. when he complains, it's because he hasn't come up with an answer that is strong enough yet, and if he had an strong answer, he wouldn't complain. his complaints are just statements that he's discovered which he currently has no solid solution for. that doesn't mean he has no solution, it just means what he has is currently weaker than it needs to be to be consistent.

and actually you're completely wrong, things do go from balanced to imbalanced drastically off of one small thing. that is exactly how starcraft balance has worked for the most part. someone finds a new build, it turns out to be really strong, and EVERYONE starts losing to it when they verse the race with the new strong build. then eventually someone learns how to deal with it, it spreads to other players of the same race, and the build dies down in effectiveness.

it happened with muta unstacking in which prior to that, thors were one of the hardest counter unit in the game vs muta, it happened with reaper builds which took a long time for people to not just die over and over to seemingly helplessly (patch removed that from the game entirely but by then people had figured out how to deal with it better), and it happened in BW as well with games like savior vs bisu which flip a match up completely on its head.

both protoss and terran have recently come up with some really efficient builds that get them more bases and make zerg macro much less powerful than it was when people would 1 base all in and then afterwards try to macro, so now zerg is in pretty big trouble until something is figured out that lets them move forward. right now, nobody knows how to do that, therefore idra is completely right when he says zergs shouldn't be winning things, because they are behind in understanding the weaknesses of the new terran/toss builds while most really high level players are comfortable with zerg's weaknesses.

On January 22 2011 03:36 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
all his streaming plans sound familiar because they're exactly what im doing! :D

On January 22 2011 03:14 H0i wrote:
but the main reason so few protoss and zerg make it to Ro8 or Ro4 is because they are underrepresented.

On January 22 2011 04:29 Jermstuddog wrote:


He doesn't see it because it doesn't exist.

Nothing about Zerg late game is particularly powerful unless you make it through early and mid game in decent shape, and quite frankly, Zerg doesn't have the tools to make it that far against a good opponent.

The only late game power Zerg has is bad opponents who let them stockpile thousands of resources.

On January 22 2011 04:43 Zarahtra wrote:

And that kind of view just annoys me. "If my opponent can't hurt me, it's fine that I just auto win the game". Well I can understand that this might be annoying on such maps as SoW, close position meta/LT etc where your opponent has such an easy time getting into your face, but on a map such as meta cross position it's the same deal for terrans atleast. But I mean that's all fine and good, the zerg is just better, because he can win in macro game and has nothing to do with the fact that zerg is just better in macro games.

I mean I'm not going to argue that maps are in a bit of a silly state(I'd say only 2 are balanced for TvZ atleast, SP & XC) but if it reaches the lategame, suddenly the zerg is just a better player and should have 90% win chance, even if the terran took no noticeable losses, macroed well, while still forcing some units even if he didn't crush the zerg's econ.

and the idea that z is somehow the strongest late game race is fuckin absurd. hive units are nearly useless and horribly cost inefficient unless broodlords catch them off guard. ya, you can insta remax if you're allowed to get a giant econ, but remaxing on lair units vs collosus or tank based armies hardly matters when you can trade 200/200 for a tenth of their army.

On January 22 2011 04:36 Luvz wrote:
Idra interviews crack me up every time. there's never a interview with that guy without it being ether whine or just pure speculation.



popped into my head as soon as i heard it. Copycat ^^

On January 22 2011 04:43 Zarahtra wrote:

And that kind of view just annoys me. "If my opponent can't hurt me, it's fine that I just auto win the game". Well I can understand that this might be annoying on such maps as SoW, close position meta/LT etc where your opponent has such an easy time getting into your face, but on a map such as meta cross position it's the same deal for terrans atleast. But I mean that's all fine and good, the zerg is just better, because he can win in macro game and has nothing to do with the fact that zerg is just better in macro games.

I mean I'm not going to argue that maps are in a bit of a silly state(I'd say only 2 are balanced for TvZ atleast, SP & XC) but if it reaches the lategame, suddenly the zerg is just a better player and should have 90% win chance, even if the terran took no noticeable losses, macroed well, while still forcing some units even if he didn't crush the zerg's econ.

On January 22 2011 05:01 fuzzy_panda wrote:
good and insightful interview, even if theres the classic idra whine. seriously back in sc1 when terran sucked, did Boxer whine about how crappy terran was? no, he came up with new strats and became the most famous e-sports representative on the planet.

On January 22 2011 04:33 Tula wrote:
please not another balance discussion.....
Idra stated his opinion, now you might say it is wrong, pessimistic or biased, all those complaints are valid, but it is still his opinion and the current facts have proven him right to some extent.
Look at the Tournament results Z HAS a problem currently. What exactly that problem is and how it can be solved is a balance discussion or a gameplay discussion which needs to be adressed in the proper way.
Whining like 6 years olds " You are wrong" "No you are wrong" etc. is not the proper way.
If you think you have a brilliant build which solves the current weakness from a zerg perspective take it to the strategy board and present it. If you think the balance needs to be adressed in a patch take it to the Blizzard boards and whine there. Flaming back and forth here about how wrong idra is, contributes nothing to this discussion.

Personally i disagree with him, but then i have the luxury of being able to deny 3 Maps in my ladder games and i do not face Pros who can marinesplit perfectly without fail. At that level (2.5k Diamond) Zerg is fine against Terran, and so far i haven't met many Protoss who play good Air builds yet either.

I find it curious that Idra and Athosis are convinced MVP will take the GSL4, when he choked pretty badly in the 3 previous tournaments. I guess we'll see :D Personally i can't wait for the games

edit: Just a small endnote because someone posted something i disagree with while i was writing this. If you truly think Reapers are small risk high reward units might i refer you to baneling dropping his mineral line? It's probably cheaper and the rewards are much higher. Banshees are also not what i'd call a no risk unit against Zerg, since as soon as a single Muta pops your pretty expensive banshee is going to be dead. Yes Terrans have very good ways to disrupt a Zergs macro, but they are usually found in the standard units and not the gimmicky stuff which might or might not work (and usually only works if your opponent has been stupid. By the time banshees can arrive in the Zergs base he can easily have a lair up and 3 Queens).

On January 22 2011 04:07 Pixel. wrote:


It is not only IdrA, Ret and Nestea and fruitdealer are saying it to. Mabye more great zerg players.
And great interview. And love the vods for europa \o/

On January 22 2011 05:14 joheinous wrote:
It really sounds like idra is miserable playing zerg:/ such a talented player he should consider switching races if only to slow down that balding with less stress

On January 22 2011 05:00 DoubleReed wrote:


Idra's opinion on Zerg lategame:



Idra is not "ignoring" zerg's lategame advantage. Idra does not believe zerg has a lategame advantage. The Protoss and Terran 200/200 armies are just too untouchable.

On January 22 2011 03:58 Eric9 wrote:


what terrible logic, are u sure he's a pro? He could invest the time from now until the next big tourney practicing another race. If he's as good as people say he is it should be no problem.

User was temp banned for this post.

On January 22 2011 03:32 Roggay wrote:


But Fruitdealer and Nestea are whining a lot too. And you are dead wrong if you think a player of the caliber of IdrA doesnt think of "new ways" to win. I have a big problem with no-names whining and not trying to improve their plays, but progamers of that caliber know what they are talking about, you shouldnt question them this much.

On January 22 2011 05:24 me_viet wrote:



lol it takes AGES to master a race well. or get anywhere good enuff to compete at a pro level. Some example of race changes includes TLO and Morrow. Two very good Terran since the start of the beta.

THey made the change to Zerg. This is in no way dis-respecting them but they have not made any big splash lately. They kind of just dropped from the radar. I remember back then TLO with his ingenius Terran play and Morrow winning many of the tournaments. This could also be because I haven't been following Sc2 as closely as I was back in the holidays, but still. THe point is, it's NOT easy to switch race especially at the level they're at atm.

Telling your sponsor "oh hai, i'm just gonna lose for the next couple of months, you still willing to sponsor me though?" is NOT good considering that's probably Idra's only form of income is.

On January 22 2011 03:36 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
all his streaming plans sound familiar because they're exactly what im doing! :D

On January 22 2011 05:44 TT1 wrote:
honestly if idra played t since the beggining he would have been 2x better than he is now

On January 22 2011 04:33 Tula wrote:
please not another balance discussion.....
Idra stated his opinion, now you might say it is wrong, pessimistic or biased, all those complaints are valid, but it is still his opinion and the current facts have proven him right to some extent.

On January 22 2011 05:50 Joroth wrote:
IdrA is the best now he's posting content? he gets like 4k viewers when he streams randomly i can't begin to imagine the amount of people a 2 hour show is going to bring.

On January 22 2011 05:53 Angelbelow wrote:


hes got 1000 people waiting around for him when hes not streaming.. pretty amazing.

On January 22 2011 02:58 Rhyme wrote:
awesome! thanks, artosis. i really hope idra's success this season re-invigorates his drive. it's kinda surprising to hear that idra, the machine, slacked on practice before his 2nd group (although it obviously worked out ^^).

On January 22 2011 05:53 Zocat wrote:
Thanks Artosis & thanks IdrA for that interview
Looking forward to those VODs!



So if a P in Korea would start to cry (state his opinion) it would be alright to you?

Looking at GSL "4" I see:
RO 16 - 4P, 3Z
RO 8 - 2P, 2Z
RO 4 - 0P 1Z

If you follow Idras logic "Nestea is only in RO4, because Choya doesnt deserve Code S" you would have:
RO 16 - 3P, 3Z
RO 8 - 1P, 2Z
RO 4 - 0P, 0Z

I dont see Zs to have much more "facts" on their side compared to Ps.
The only thing going for the Z argument may be that P havent figured their airbuild out yet. But then I can also say, that Zs havent figured their counters to those airbuilds yet. And you cannot say "I cannot counter it" when you dont even know how it looks like.

The "facts" only show, that there are a lot more terrans compared to both other races.
Why this is - the facts dont provide. It might be bad players for P, Z underpowered. But it might be the other way around as well (bad Z players, P underpowered) or nothing of this at all.