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great interview as always thanks for posting, i always like to hear what idra thinks about the GSL and the match ups along with other games that were played and ones he was in, really getting into the mid of a great player
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Its nice to have a higher level player mimic my thoughts about Zerg's balance agaisnt T/P. Although, I do believe Zerg stands a chance vs Terran.
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Any change of jinro interview artosis? Keep doing these please! 
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Idra reaching out to the community with his production. Thats awesome. Props. Hopefully he can make it deeper into the tournament next go around.
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Noev above wrote what I was about to (apart from misspelling 'mind'). Really looking forward to more of Idra's analysis of games on the EG website and his stream restarting.
Thanks Artosis and Idra, good luck for next season!
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So glad he is thinking about us Europeans. It was a great interview by IdrA, really interesting points about the state of Zerg at the moment, and balance in general.
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Awesome interview great work to all parties!!!
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GRACK -
You are the man. And the best foreigner out there. You just had a little bit of bad luck.
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Ggreat interview, and awesome that IdrA takes time to do stuff like this for the community, as well as streaming and soon even analysing and commenting games. Thanks for the interview artosis !
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On January 22 2011 05:18 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2011 05:00 DoubleReed wrote:On January 22 2011 04:43 Zarahtra wrote:On January 22 2011 04:29 Jermstuddog wrote:On January 22 2011 04:24 Zarahtra wrote:On January 22 2011 03:14 H0i wrote:
Nice interview.
Now talking about idra, I think he's just too much of a whiner. This constant whining of zerg being too weak is not going to change anything, if he keeps thinking his race is weak then that's not going to make him win more.
As a master league random/protoss player I admit say that it can be frustrating to play zerg on small maps, but the main reason so few protoss and zerg make it to Ro8 or Ro4 is because they are underrepresented. When the game was very new terran was a lot stronger, you can say op, because people did not know how to deal with them. Everyone picked terran and now we have an overdose of GSL terran players. The balance changes that were made help to even things out, and people found out new strategies. The game is a lot more fair than before and it's going in the right direction. If only guys like idra (and everyone else who whines about balance) stops whining and starts thinking of new ways to win then the situation might improve more.
Look at fruitdealer and nestea, look at mc. They did things differently and won GSL's. I just don't think he sees how insanely good zerg is lategame and just totally ignores it therefore. The game can only be balanced if you take all the strengths/weaknesses into account. I'd still love a inject nerf/natural larvae regen buff as a way to try to equalize it a bit. Still a nice interview, Artosis as awesome as always with the content. I don't think idra gives jinro enough credit though, he's such a diverse player, while he's good at macro games, he's not as terrible as idra in shorter matches(ok idras macro game compared to his cheese/allins, he's obv still awesome). He doesn't see it because it doesn't exist. Nothing about Zerg late game is particularly powerful unless you make it through early and mid game in decent shape, and quite frankly, Zerg doesn't have the tools to make it that far against a good opponent. The only late game power Zerg has is bad opponents who let them stockpile thousands of resources. And that kind of view just annoys me. "If my opponent can't hurt me, it's fine that I just auto win the game". Well I can understand that this might be annoying on such maps as SoW, close position meta/LT etc where your opponent has such an easy time getting into your face, but on a map such as meta cross position it's the same deal for terrans atleast. But I mean that's all fine and good, the zerg is just better, because he can win in macro game and has nothing to do with the fact that zerg is just better in macro games. I mean I'm not going to argue that maps are in a bit of a silly state(I'd say only 2 are balanced for TvZ atleast, SP & XC) but if it reaches the lategame, suddenly the zerg is just a better player and should have 90% win chance, even if the terran took no noticeable losses, macroed well, while still forcing some units even if he didn't crush the zerg's econ. Idra's opinion on Zerg lategame: and the idea that z is somehow the strongest late game race is fuckin absurd. hive units are nearly useless and horribly cost inefficient unless broodlords catch them off guard. ya, you can insta remax if you're allowed to get a giant econ, but remaxing on lair units vs collosus or tank based armies hardly matters when you can trade 200/200 for a tenth of their army. Idra is not "ignoring" zerg's lategame advantage. Idra does not believe zerg has a lategame advantage. The Protoss and Terran 200/200 armies are just too untouchable. you are looking at endgame as a state, an instance, but each game is actually a process. zerg macro mechanics enable the zerg to pump a lot more drones in a given time at certain stages of the game, meaning they can get troops quicker and end the game before terran/toss achieve critical mass of high tech units. it doesn't always happen of course, but merely comparing 200 population balls of end game units isn't very informative.
What? No, he completely takes that into account. I thought we were talking specifically about zerg lategame advantage anyway. He's saying that a zerg 200/200 army (and subsequent waves of armies) can't even touch a toss 200/200. And if anything I think most people will agree that zerg 200/200 vs toss 160/200 is probably about even.
Being able to "max quicker" isn't some inherent advantage if your population count has to be higher in order to win anyway.
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IdrA is such a sick baller with that jacket on and no glasses, much more badass then IdrA with glasses and no gracket.
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idrA is awesome, great interview Artosis!
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Artosis: "Clide is actually a very good terran."
Idra: -_-
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I have to say that every interview of I see of Idra he just seems like a really pleasant guy. Awesome interview, nice information, just great ^^ Thanks a lot =)
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On January 22 2011 06:52 jalstar wrote:
Artosis: "Clide is actually a very good terran."
Idra: -_-
Hahaha, easily the highlight of the whole interview.
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Artosis never lets us down!
Great interview, so glad to hear the IdrA streams will be returning.
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Great interview. Thanks artosisisisis!
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Better luck next time idra ur a great player keep up the good work!
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Thanks Artosis and IdrA, two of my favorite people~
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Zerg should try more burrow play like roaches and banelings. I think burrow should be a hatchery upgrade like in BroodWar
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