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If Sen and his buddies are going to take a vacation, see the sights, and play in the GSL for fun and to see how they match up to the Korean pros, then awesome, good for them.
If Sen is going to seriously compete in SC2 and try to become a progamer, he's wasting his money and time.
GSL3 is the last of the "open" GSL's where anyone can sign up and try to qualify. After these, the real GSLs begin, with S-class and A-class progamers being seeded into separate tournaments.
What this means is that if Sen fails to make it to the Ro16, he won't be considered S-class, and if he can't make Ro32, he won't be A-class, and won't be qualified for any tournaments at all.
Looking at it from a monetary perspective, I just looked up the price of a flight from Taipei, Taiwan, to Seoul, SK. It's roughly $500 USD. Let's say Sen eats and stays for free during his time in South Korea, and the only thing he has to pay for is the plane ticket. He'll need to make at least Ro32 to cover most of the ticket, and he'll need to make Ro16 to make a profit.
Now, if Sen had flown over for GSL 1 and stayed until now, it would be a much more worthwhile investment of his time. He'd have more practice with Korea pros, and he'd have more chances to qualify for the GSL when there are no restrictions on who can sign up.
As it is now, it's likely too little too late. If he's flying over with the mindset of seriously competing, he's probably wasting his time and money.
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On October 29 2010 11:41 Newguy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 11:38 GTR wrote:
If Sen can beat Maka in a series then I have no doubt he'd be able to qualify for the Ro64. Lots of top foreigners too. Sen, Huk, TLO, Artosis, Sjow, Select, Jinro, Idra. Maybe some others I forgot.
When I read this list, the only thing I can think of is like elementary school quizes "one does not belong" lol.
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On October 29 2010 13:42 madcow305 wrote:
If Sen and his buddies are going to take a vacation, see the sights, and play in the GSL for fun and to see how they match up to the Korean pros, then awesome, good for them.
If Sen is going to seriously compete in SC2 and try to become a progamer, he's wasting his money and time.
GSL3 is the last of the "open" GSL's where anyone can sign up and try to qualify. After these, the real GSLs begin, with S-class and A-class progamers being seeded into separate tournaments.
What this means is that if Sen fails to make it to the Ro16, he won't be considered S-class, and if he can't make Ro32, he won't be A-class, and won't be qualified for any tournaments at all.
Looking at it from a monetary perspective, I just looked up the price of a flight from Taipei, Taiwan, to Seoul, SK. It's roughly $500 USD. Let's say Sen eats and stays for free during his time in South Korea, and the only thing he has to pay for is the plane ticket. He'll need to make at least Ro32 to cover most of the ticket, and he'll need to make Ro16 to make a profit.
Now, if Sen had flown over for GSL 1 and stayed until now, it would be a much more worthwhile investment of his time. He'd have more practice with Korea pros, and he'd have more chances to qualify for the GSL when there are no restrictions on who can sign up.
As it is now, it's likely too little too late. If he's flying over with the mindset of seriously competing, he's probably wasting his time and money.
And all of this is moot if Sen is confident that he can make the Ro16/further...?
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On October 29 2010 13:42 madcow305 wrote:
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What if he's going over to do both?
Personally, I don't think it's a waste of time at all and Sen does have a genuine chance to go very far. I mean, Artosis was getting pretty excited about Kyrix's agressive Zerg play, but Sen has been doing all that (and more. AND with a lot more depth to his play) since the game's release (probably in the beta too, but I can't quite remember if that's 100% true, so I'll just say 'release'  ).
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wow really? how is it a waste of time when your one of the best zergs in the world. this guy took down some of the players that made it to the round 64 in the gsl. i think he can do well.
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On October 29 2010 13:42 madcow305 wrote:
If Sen and his buddies are going to take a vacation, see the sights, and play in the GSL for fun and to see how they match up to the Korean pros, then awesome, good for them.
If Sen is going to seriously compete in SC2 and try to become a progamer, he's wasting his money and time.
GSL3 is the last of the "open" GSL's where anyone can sign up and try to qualify. After these, the real GSLs begin, with S-class and A-class progamers being seeded into separate tournaments.
What this means is that if Sen fails to make it to the Ro16, he won't be considered S-class, and if he can't make Ro32, he won't be A-class, and won't be qualified for any tournaments at all.
Looking at it from a monetary perspective, I just looked up the price of a flight from Taipei, Taiwan, to Seoul, SK. It's roughly $500 USD. Let's say Sen eats and stays for free during his time in South Korea, and the only thing he has to pay for is the plane ticket. He'll need to make at least Ro32 to cover most of the ticket, and he'll need to make Ro16 to make a profit.
Now, if Sen had flown over for GSL 1 and stayed until now, it would be a much more worthwhile investment of his time. He'd have more practice with Korea pros, and he'd have more chances to qualify for the GSL when there are no restrictions on who can sign up.
As it is now, it's likely too little too late. If he's flying over with the mindset of seriously competing, he's probably wasting his time and money.
It's the amount of investment he's willing to put into. He could possibly has other commitement that restrict him to travel for more than 1 month. Perhaps time is more precious then flight ticket.
There are other other GSL formats they can participate in to increase ranking with. We will still have chances to see existing and new coming foreigner shine in the Korean eSport scene.
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I hope this is true, as I would really like to see Sen go far and do well. He has not been participating in too many since the beta so hopefuly this will signify a change
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More top foreigners, means more competition, I like. I fully support more and more foreigners trying to come to Korea and compete because it raises the level of foreign competition as well as Korean competition.
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GSL1>GSL2>>>>>GSL3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GSL5 wooooooooohooooooo its gonna be better and better  HuK to finals !
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On October 29 2010 15:19 NIIINO wrote:GSL1>GSL2>>>>>GSL3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GSL5 wooooooooohooooooo its gonna be better and better HuK to finals !
I think your signs are reversed xP
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this is brilliant. i love watchign sen play. hope he goes far in the next gsl
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I have been waiting for this. Sen is my favorite player and I have been waiting for him to participate in GSL.
I dunno much about SoftBall or Dus, but I guess they are pretty good too.
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Sweet...
If an event like the GSL could catch on in China.... expect to see twice the prize pool. Regional qualifiers in China would each garner thousands of participants... Just thinking about such a tournament blows my mind. CSL...chinese starleague
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GSL qualifiers are most random thing ever. That being said, i'd probably be more surprised if Sen failed to qualify than I was when I heard about top and ssks not qualifying.
should be fun, Sen is so damn good.
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On October 29 2010 13:42 madcow305 wrote:
If Sen and his buddies are going to take a vacation, see the sights, and play in the GSL for fun and to see how they match up to the Korean pros, then awesome, good for them.
If Sen is going to seriously compete in SC2 and try to become a progamer, he's wasting his money and time.
GSL3 is the last of the "open" GSL's where anyone can sign up and try to qualify. After these, the real GSLs begin, with S-class and A-class progamers being seeded into separate tournaments.
What this means is that if Sen fails to make it to the Ro16, he won't be considered S-class, and if he can't make Ro32, he won't be A-class, and won't be qualified for any tournaments at all.
Looking at it from a monetary perspective, I just looked up the price of a flight from Taipei, Taiwan, to Seoul, SK. It's roughly $500 USD. Let's say Sen eats and stays for free during his time in South Korea, and the only thing he has to pay for is the plane ticket. He'll need to make at least Ro32 to cover most of the ticket, and he'll need to make Ro16 to make a profit.
Now, if Sen had flown over for GSL 1 and stayed until now, it would be a much more worthwhile investment of his time. He'd have more practice with Korea pros, and he'd have more chances to qualify for the GSL when there are no restrictions on who can sign up.
As it is now, it's likely too little too late. If he's flying over with the mindset of seriously competing, he's probably wasting his time and money.
If you're going to use that logic there are hundreds of other professions you could work at for 8h+ per day and make more money than any of these guys, so it's not really worth it for any of them - Korean or foreign.
I'm sure Sen is quite happy to give it a shot even if it doesn't turn a profit. I'm sure he'll get a lot out of the experience and improve his game at the same time even if he doesn't make it to the Ro32.
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yay Sen :D weee
i love Sen, gogo Sen :3
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On October 29 2010 13:42 madcow305 wrote:
If Sen and his buddies are going to take a vacation, see the sights, and play in the GSL for fun and to see how they match up to the Korean pros, then awesome, good for them.
If Sen is going to seriously compete in SC2 and try to become a progamer, he's wasting his money and time.
GSL3 is the last of the "open" GSL's where anyone can sign up and try to qualify. After these, the real GSLs begin, with S-class and A-class progamers being seeded into separate tournaments.
What this means is that if Sen fails to make it to the Ro16, he won't be considered S-class, and if he can't make Ro32, he won't be A-class, and won't be qualified for any tournaments at all.
Looking at it from a monetary perspective, I just looked up the price of a flight from Taipei, Taiwan, to Seoul, SK. It's roughly $500 USD. Let's say Sen eats and stays for free during his time in South Korea, and the only thing he has to pay for is the plane ticket. He'll need to make at least Ro32 to cover most of the ticket, and he'll need to make Ro16 to make a profit.
Now, if Sen had flown over for GSL 1 and stayed until now, it would be a much more worthwhile investment of his time. He'd have more practice with Korea pros, and he'd have more chances to qualify for the GSL when there are no restrictions on who can sign up.
As it is now, it's likely too little too late. If he's flying over with the mindset of seriously competing, he's probably wasting his time and money.
Who are you to say it's a waste of his time? Sen has a great chance of qualifying for the ro64 if he gets some decent brackets. He beat Maka at Blizzcon and has been the second best foreign zerg since he started playing.
This isn't new territory for Sen. He didn't just start becoming a progamer when SC2 came out; he's played SC at the highest of foreigner levels since the beginning of time. I don't really expect GSL3 to be harder to qualify, it's mostly all about the brackets. Some people get really easy ones and even get free wins because of dropouts.
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On October 29 2010 12:01 Licmyobelisk wrote:
the question:
is seLeCt considered foreigner or korean? (since he plays NA and has been living in US for 3 years)
i don't think he even has an american citizenship (you usually need to live longer than 3 years in US to gain citizenship). So he is biologically and also by the law, a korean (unless there is something else that i don't know about him).
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OMG huge <3 for Sen being an awesome baller!
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