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Cloak
Profile Joined October 2009
United States816 Posts
October 04 2010 02:49 GMT
#221
Jaedong didn't become the Tyrant just because he was good at mechanics. They used to say you could never succeed with the same strat twice against the Dong.
The more you know, the less you understand.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 04 2010 02:53 GMT
#222
looks like we can't compete with them anymore
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
October 04 2010 02:54 GMT
#223
On October 04 2010 11:49 Cloak wrote:
Jaedong didn't become the Tyrant just because he was good at mechanics. They used to say you could never succeed with the same strat twice against the Dong.


Until Flash came along?
Gogo Grubby.
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1438 Posts
October 04 2010 02:57 GMT
#224
If jaedong doesn't play zerg i will cry.
Baller Fanclub || CheAse Fanclub || Scarlett Fanclub || LJD FIGHTING!
Floophead_III
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 04 2010 02:59 GMT
#225
The dong is probably waiting for zerg to be balanced before switching =P
Half man, half bear, half pig.
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
October 04 2010 03:05 GMT
#226
Jaedong thinking like a pro! But I'm happy for him as long as he keeps winning.
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
October 04 2010 03:09 GMT
#227
On October 04 2010 10:34 Beef Noodles wrote:
Looking at some of the posts, I think people need to remember that the STATE of BW and SC2 are SO different right now. Jaedong was the best of the best because he had the greatest zerg mechanics of all time. He also had AMAZING decision making and inventive builds, but still mechanics played the most important role in a game like BW because everything was pretty much figured out. People understood the game so well that they could just glance at a situation and know exactly what went wrong.

Watch Nal_rA "old boy" series. Listen to what even some of the less skilled pros say. "You lost that battle because you needed 1 more zealot." or "you transfered you probes a little too late so you had a few less dragoons" (these are not the exact examples they use, but very similar).

In a game where basically everyone know WHAT to do, it becomes a question of who can do it BEST and FASTEST. That's where Jaedong really shined. Now, that is NOT the case in sc2. Right now, pros are being surprised by new builds and tactics all the time. Mechanics are incredibly important, but vastly superior mechanics do not guarantee a win quite yet in SC2.

So basically my point is that Jaedong will not DOMINATE. He will still be beatable. He will be amazing due to those great mechanics and he is also a very smart, innovative player. But, people seem to think that he will just go undefeated as soon as he learns the hotkeys.

Now that being said, when many years pass and SC2 becomes as understood as BW, someone like Flash and Jaedong will dominate anyone with inferior mechanics.

Note: I realize that I over-simplified what it takes to be good in the BW scene, but my point is still valid

(replying here because I don't want to waste my 200th post ) Reply: Jaedong is an IdrA on steroids with better decision making and amazing innovation. So not really the same because I feel like IdrA hasn't gotten to a point where he needs to base his strategies off his opponents.

Reply 2: I do feel like Jaedong will be the best or one of the best, but he will still lose games to stupid "new" builds. I don't want someone to see that and think "how was this guy a sc1 god?"



I have to disagree here. Cool beat Rainbow without doing any "surprise" tactics. He simply outplayed his opponent via superior execution. Pros do lose single games to unorthodox strategies sometimes but not entire BoX's.

Otherwise how could people like Tester and Rainbow be so dominant? They are far from being the most creative SC2 players and yet perform more strongly than most others.
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
October 04 2010 03:09 GMT
#228
I honestly hope JD never switches over to sc2. BW will never be the same w/o him (and flash).
csfield
Profile Joined October 2008
United States206 Posts
October 04 2010 03:11 GMT
#229
the people saying Jaedong might pick another race are out of their minds

I know that I have never once considered how my TV viewing habits impact the progression of civilization. --Bibbit
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
October 04 2010 03:20 GMT
#230
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LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
October 04 2010 03:22 GMT
#231
On October 04 2010 12:11 csfield wrote:
the people saying Jaedong might pick another race are out of their minds


Why so? SC2 Zerg is completely different from BW Zerg...
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 04 2010 03:27 GMT
#232
On October 04 2010 12:09 ohN wrote:
I honestly hope JD never switches over to sc2. BW will never be the same w/o him (and flash).

I doubt JD will switch until his contract is terminated, which will probably not happen til BW proleague dies off...then again, you never know~

should be very interesting/amazing to see JD play :O
zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
October 04 2010 03:27 GMT
#233
On October 04 2010 12:22 LegendaryZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 12:11 csfield wrote:
the people saying Jaedong might pick another race are out of their minds


Why so? SC2 Zerg is completely different from BW Zerg...


lol and terran and toss are closer to BW Zerg?

he will choose zerg
You know how to gain a victory, but not use it - maharbal
-HellZerg-
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States409 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 03:31:50
October 04 2010 03:28 GMT
#234
If SC2 demands more superior creativity/strategic thoughts than superior mechanics, then how come TLO (or other foreigners) didn't win GSL? :O I think because 1v1 in SC2 is still human vs human, superior mechanics should still be considered as a necessary skill for a SC2 competitive player.
We are what we repeatedly do; excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. - Aristotle
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
October 04 2010 03:29 GMT
#235
Would be awesome if Flash and Jaedong switched races for SC2.

I like the sound of (P)Flash and (T)Jaedong, personally.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
DreXxiN
Profile Joined July 2010
United States494 Posts
October 04 2010 03:32 GMT
#236
WOOO JAEDONG FIGHTING!
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
October 04 2010 03:33 GMT
#237
On October 04 2010 12:29 Hinanawi wrote:
Would be awesome if Flash and Jaedong switched races for SC2.

I like the sound of (P)Flash and (T)Jaedong, personally.


I think Flash would like Zerg more. All you do is defend.
Scottymc
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia134 Posts
October 04 2010 03:33 GMT
#238
The prize money from these GSL's will make Starcraft 2 grow really really fast.
And to be honest me watching 2 people play for 85k us just gives me half a chubby.
I think if blizzard nails its next patch and introduces some map making competitions or teams it will be game on. Or uses the IC cup maps haha.
If you think playing with under 100APM is noob try having a ping of 450. Welcome australians to BNET 2.0....
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
October 04 2010 03:35 GMT
#239
On October 04 2010 12:33 kNyTTyM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 12:29 Hinanawi wrote:
Would be awesome if Flash and Jaedong switched races for SC2.

I like the sound of (P)Flash and (T)Jaedong, personally.


I think Flash would like Zerg more. All you do is defend.


You can defend but you can't turtle. Terran can turtle.
We spend our youth attaining wealth, and our wealth attaining youth.
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
October 04 2010 03:37 GMT
#240
The titan hast awoken.
Tahts halo dont worry
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