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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
October 04 2010 05:36 GMT
#261
That would be epic.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
October 04 2010 05:40 GMT
#262
On October 04 2010 13:01 Mascherano wrote:
[image loading]

*typo lol

This, definitely this.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
October 04 2010 05:41 GMT
#263
hope its not too soon, still loving his sexy bw zerg
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
dambros
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil432 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 05:46:29
October 04 2010 05:45 GMT
#264
For those saying JD may change his race when he switches, well I guess he wouldn't. Reading the entire interview and assuming this is for real, he says:
"The last time you faced FlaSh prior World Cyber Games you went four pool, yesterday when you faced him in the semi final you did not, what made you change your tactics?
-Last time I did it I lost, my fans went bananas. They were very angry and swore against me. That is the main reason I did not go four pool in the semi final against FlaSh."

If he cares that much about his fans to change his game strategy, he would never change races and lose his zerg crown.

Well, it would be damn interesting to see he plays another race, but I wouldn't count on that.

This is just my 2 cents...
No pain, no gain!
DreXxiN
Profile Joined July 2010
United States494 Posts
October 04 2010 05:50 GMT
#265
Interesting that all the best players and pioneers cared most about the fans, eh?
KamikazeFrog
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark64 Posts
October 04 2010 05:52 GMT
#266
nerdgasm in my pants
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
October 04 2010 05:56 GMT
#267
oh my god

JAEDONG

will be an unstoppable force in sc2

I came =D
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
October 04 2010 05:57 GMT
#268
Jaedong won't be able to do his phenomenal mutalisk micro in SC2. I guess sick Infestor usage will have to suffice.
So close, and yet so far
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
October 04 2010 06:01 GMT
#269
The Swarm is coming..
Drone then Own
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
October 04 2010 06:05 GMT
#270
Wow, very exciting news
Now all we need, for us, protosses, that Stork, Bisu, KaL or JangBi switches to StarCraft 2 as well!
750/750 emotions fully stacked
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 06:08:51
October 04 2010 06:08 GMT
#271
I can see Jaedong playing protoss and using sick phoenix micro to win games. If Nony can do it reasonably well, Jaedong can do it fantastically.

How does (P)Jaedong sound to you all?
Faraday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States553 Posts
October 04 2010 06:13 GMT
#272
HOLY TOMATO BISK!!!!

It's the DONG!...to sc2....came back after week-end and saw this...couldnt believe it. I <3 TL
what happened, happened...
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
October 04 2010 06:22 GMT
#273
Does that mean flash will autowin every BW tournament from now on? Or maybe stork could win :D
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MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
October 04 2010 06:23 GMT
#274
Fuck - We're all doomed!
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 04 2010 06:25 GMT
#275
On October 04 2010 15:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Does that mean flash will autowin every BW tournament from now on? Or maybe stork could win :D


Stork's PvP and PvZ have been slacking though, maybe if he only runs into terrans.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
October 04 2010 06:42 GMT
#276

On October 04 2010 13:01 Mascherano wrote:
[image loading]

*typo lol

This needs cool's face shopped into it imo
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Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
October 04 2010 07:03 GMT
#277
I don't see why everyone here is surprised. If Jaedong switches, wouldn't that mean that every single broodwar player would switch over? With one of the major players switching over, that would mean that every other broodwar progamer would also switch over, as definitely sponsors would not want to sponsor Broodwar since SC2 has higher returns.

That would mean, Bisu, Kal, Fantasy and everyone else would be switching over! Including Flash!

Of course, this time should still be a long long time away.
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 04 2010 07:07 GMT
#278
On October 04 2010 10:34 Beef Noodles wrote:
Looking at some of the posts, I think people need to remember that the STATE of BW and SC2 are SO different right now. Jaedong was the best of the best because he had the greatest zerg mechanics of all time. He also had AMAZING decision making and inventive builds, but still mechanics played the most important role in a game like BW because everything was pretty much figured out. People understood the game so well that they could just glance at a situation and know exactly what went wrong.

Watch Nal_rA "old boy" series. Listen to what even some of the less skilled pros say. "You lost that battle because you needed 1 more zealot." or "you transfered you probes a little too late so you had a few less dragoons" (these are not the exact examples they use, but very similar).

In a game where basically everyone know WHAT to do, it becomes a question of who can do it BEST and FASTEST. That's where Jaedong really shined. Now, that is NOT the case in sc2. Right now, pros are being surprised by new builds and tactics all the time. Mechanics are incredibly important, but vastly superior mechanics do not guarantee a win quite yet in SC2.

So basically my point is that Jaedong will not DOMINATE. He will still be beatable. He will be amazing due to those great mechanics and he is also a very smart, innovative player. But, people seem to think that he will just go undefeated as soon as he learns the hotkeys.

Now that being said, when many years pass and SC2 becomes as understood as BW, someone like Flash and Jaedong will dominate anyone with inferior mechanics.

Note: I realize that I over-simplified what it takes to be good in the BW scene, but my point is still valid

(replying here because I don't want to waste my 200th post ) Reply: Jaedong is an IdrA on steroids with better decision making and amazing innovation. So not really the same because I feel like IdrA hasn't gotten to a point where he needs to base his strategies off his opponents.

Reply 2: I do feel like Jaedong will be the best or one of the best, but he will still lose games to stupid "new" builds. I don't want someone to see that and think "how was this guy a sc1 god?"

Except in SCBW Jaedong actually revolutionized every single Zerg matchup(2hatch muta ZvT, 3hatch spire 5hatch Hydra ZvP[new standard], and completely reworked the entire ZvZ matchup). He's also creative, he didn't just "do what everyone else did". In fact, he constantly develops new builds in SCBW even now. He's extremely sharp tactically and strategically. You haven't been watching alot of BW I'm guessing?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
fdsdfg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1251 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 07:13:54
October 04 2010 07:13 GMT
#279
On October 04 2010 16:07 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 10:34 Beef Noodles wrote:
Looking at some of the posts, I think people need to remember that the STATE of BW and SC2 are SO different right now. Jaedong was the best of the best because he had the greatest zerg mechanics of all time. He also had AMAZING decision making and inventive builds, but still mechanics played the most important role in a game like BW because everything was pretty much figured out. People understood the game so well that they could just glance at a situation and know exactly what went wrong.

Watch Nal_rA "old boy" series. Listen to what even some of the less skilled pros say. "You lost that battle because you needed 1 more zealot." or "you transfered you probes a little too late so you had a few less dragoons" (these are not the exact examples they use, but very similar).

In a game where basically everyone know WHAT to do, it becomes a question of who can do it BEST and FASTEST. That's where Jaedong really shined. Now, that is NOT the case in sc2. Right now, pros are being surprised by new builds and tactics all the time. Mechanics are incredibly important, but vastly superior mechanics do not guarantee a win quite yet in SC2.

So basically my point is that Jaedong will not DOMINATE. He will still be beatable. He will be amazing due to those great mechanics and he is also a very smart, innovative player. But, people seem to think that he will just go undefeated as soon as he learns the hotkeys.

Now that being said, when many years pass and SC2 becomes as understood as BW, someone like Flash and Jaedong will dominate anyone with inferior mechanics.

Note: I realize that I over-simplified what it takes to be good in the BW scene, but my point is still valid

(replying here because I don't want to waste my 200th post ) Reply: Jaedong is an IdrA on steroids with better decision making and amazing innovation. So not really the same because I feel like IdrA hasn't gotten to a point where he needs to base his strategies off his opponents.

Reply 2: I do feel like Jaedong will be the best or one of the best, but he will still lose games to stupid "new" builds. I don't want someone to see that and think "how was this guy a sc1 god?"


Except in SCBW Jaedong actually revolutionized every single Zerg matchup(2hatch muta ZvT, 3hatch spire 5hatch Hydra ZvP[new standard], and completely reworked the entire ZvZ matchup). He's also creative, he didn't just "do what everyone else did". In fact, he constantly develops new builds in SCBW even now. He's extremely sharp tactically and strategically. You haven't been watching alot of BW I'm guessing?


Um.. he didn't say any of the things you're trying to disagree with him about. Your use of quotes implies you're quoting something, but nobody said that.

The point is SC2 is still very young compared to BW so there are a lot more surprises. Don't be surprised if Jaedong gets surprised by some of these surprises.
aka Siyko
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
October 04 2010 07:13 GMT
#280
The international vision! I love it That's where e-sports is to go.
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