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Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
October 04 2010 07:15 GMT
#281
Why, this is wonderful news. Hope he doesn't play Terran like JulyZerg (can't confirm that but heard that rumor,) I would love to see what he can do as Zerg.
"You are not trying to win, you are trying to be awesome" -Day[9]
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
October 04 2010 07:16 GMT
#282
Flash and Stork will be in Sc2 soon so im not sure they will domainate everything... They are coming accroos sooner rather thenlater! Think next pro league etc will be the last!!!
Live and Let Die!
Gulzt
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands275 Posts
October 04 2010 07:16 GMT
#283
Awesome. I should win the GSL before he switches, else it'll be impossible..

eh wait.. it's already impossible
Tevinhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom470 Posts
October 04 2010 07:24 GMT
#284
On October 04 2010 12:20 Scrubwave wrote:


I think this is appropriate to how I and many people feel.

That is so incredibly epic. <3 for posting it haha.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 04 2010 07:35 GMT
#285
On October 04 2010 16:13 fdsdfg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 16:07 Shikyo wrote:
On October 04 2010 10:34 Beef Noodles wrote:
Looking at some of the posts, I think people need to remember that the STATE of BW and SC2 are SO different right now. Jaedong was the best of the best because he had the greatest zerg mechanics of all time. He also had AMAZING decision making and inventive builds, but still mechanics played the most important role in a game like BW because everything was pretty much figured out. People understood the game so well that they could just glance at a situation and know exactly what went wrong.

Watch Nal_rA "old boy" series. Listen to what even some of the less skilled pros say. "You lost that battle because you needed 1 more zealot." or "you transfered you probes a little too late so you had a few less dragoons" (these are not the exact examples they use, but very similar).

In a game where basically everyone know WHAT to do, it becomes a question of who can do it BEST and FASTEST. That's where Jaedong really shined. Now, that is NOT the case in sc2. Right now, pros are being surprised by new builds and tactics all the time. Mechanics are incredibly important, but vastly superior mechanics do not guarantee a win quite yet in SC2.

So basically my point is that Jaedong will not DOMINATE. He will still be beatable. He will be amazing due to those great mechanics and he is also a very smart, innovative player. But, people seem to think that he will just go undefeated as soon as he learns the hotkeys.

Now that being said, when many years pass and SC2 becomes as understood as BW, someone like Flash and Jaedong will dominate anyone with inferior mechanics.

Note: I realize that I over-simplified what it takes to be good in the BW scene, but my point is still valid

(replying here because I don't want to waste my 200th post ) Reply: Jaedong is an IdrA on steroids with better decision making and amazing innovation. So not really the same because I feel like IdrA hasn't gotten to a point where he needs to base his strategies off his opponents.

Reply 2: I do feel like Jaedong will be the best or one of the best, but he will still lose games to stupid "new" builds. I don't want someone to see that and think "how was this guy a sc1 god?"


Except in SCBW Jaedong actually revolutionized every single Zerg matchup(2hatch muta ZvT, 3hatch spire 5hatch Hydra ZvP[new standard], and completely reworked the entire ZvZ matchup). He's also creative, he didn't just "do what everyone else did". In fact, he constantly develops new builds in SCBW even now. He's extremely sharp tactically and strategically. You haven't been watching alot of BW I'm guessing?


Um.. he didn't say any of the things you're trying to disagree with him about. Your use of quotes implies you're quoting something, but nobody said that.

The point is SC2 is still very young compared to BW so there are a lot more surprises. Don't be surprised if Jaedong gets surprised by some of these surprises.

Yeah and they'll only work once. Don't be surprised if Jaedong surprises as well ...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
October 04 2010 07:43 GMT
#286
Haha fucking fantastic!!
Jaedong is a machine, no doubt about it that he will break the game as soon as he starts practicing. People seem to forget sometimes at what level he plays. SC2 mechanics will be nothing for a player like him. I'm awaiting perfection.
OnFire
Profile Joined July 2010
324 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 07:45:43
October 04 2010 07:45 GMT
#287
I would like to see Jaedong come back next season and completely destroy Flash in every tournament, make Bonjwa and then start playing SC2.
HYDRA - EFFORT - LETA
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 04 2010 07:51 GMT
#288
On October 04 2010 16:45 grudgeStar wrote:
I would like to see Jaedong come back next season and completely destroy Flash in every tournament, make Bonjwa and then start playing SC2.


Thats what he'll do don't worry
When I think of something else, something will go here
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
October 04 2010 08:05 GMT
#289
Why's everyone so happy. He's just saying once Sc2 has bigger popularity than BW he will switch. So probably never.
scaeb
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland11 Posts
October 04 2010 08:11 GMT
#290
Man this would be so awesome. Can't even start thinking about the new strategies he could invent for the zerg.

Although the source makes me a bit suspicious. Nonetheless, awesome.
metal heavy, soft at the core
Kiriya.Kite
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada32 Posts
October 04 2010 08:15 GMT
#291
Oh man this is great!! =D
Ethic
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada439 Posts
October 04 2010 08:19 GMT
#292
His micro is going to be absolute, no one will beat him.
SC2 ID: Ethic.791 - 1v1 DIAMOND - SHILOH UPSILON
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 04 2010 08:21 GMT
#293
now we only have to hope he'll stick with Zerg
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
AJ-
Profile Joined April 2010
United States316 Posts
October 04 2010 08:22 GMT
#294
Who wouldn't be eager to switch when he knows he would have a verrrrrrry good shot at 80,000 USD each season
Coeus1
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland160 Posts
October 04 2010 08:25 GMT
#295
Never played SC1. This guy is god or something?
xxx
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
October 04 2010 08:25 GMT
#296
Oh wow, jaedong himself! so nice
kariido
Profile Joined December 2007
Saudi Arabia179 Posts
October 04 2010 08:25 GMT
#297
I'm interested in which race Jaedong will play. If he is looking to go into this with money on the forefront there is only one option.
http://campaignforliberty.org/
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 08:32:27
October 04 2010 08:32 GMT
#298
On October 04 2010 17:25 Coeus1 wrote:
Never played SC1. This guy is god or something?

yep, pretty much, altough you might want to use a capital letter
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
October 04 2010 08:47 GMT
#299
incorrect translation.
jaedong is still sticking to sc:Bw
why the hell would jaedong leave his 6 figure SALARY, NOT TOURNAMENT WINNINGS INCLUDED, to join a game where there are no salaries and only one major tournament.
Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
October 04 2010 08:49 GMT
#300
On October 04 2010 17:25 Coeus1 wrote:
Never played SC1. This guy is god or something?


hes the god of zerg
best zerg on the planet
was the best player of the world for a while until flash passed him up.
you are missing out not watching his sublime control.
but then again, you didn't play sc1.
who knows if you can appreciate sick micro and crazy management
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