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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On November 24 2009 14:53 FragKrag wrote: Oh. God looking up laptop gpus is fucking with me t_t Also, an fx5200 can capably run a double 2560x1600 setup. Really any dedicated video card is overkill for running multiple monitors. If that's all the functionality you're looking for a gts250 is waaaay overkill. I believe the 4770 has 2 DVI+Displayport. | ||
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grunter
Romania11 Posts
4gb ram ddr2 dual channel ati HD 3650 256 GDDR3 top hdd 160gb do I need to change my configuration to play smoothly SC2? | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On November 24 2009 15:50 grunter wrote: Athlon x2 dual core 6000+ 3,2 ghz 4gb ram ddr2 dual channel ati HD 3650 256 GDDR3 top hdd 160gb do I need to change my configuration to play smoothly SC2? Is that a PCI-E video card or are you still holding onto agp? You'll probably be able to play fine but i would really recommend upgrading soon. The 6000+ is great, Windsor ftw. Edit: If you really NEED to hang onto agp for another year or so i would recommend the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161284&cm_re=4670_agp-_-14-161-284-_-Product 4670 AGP. It's pretty much as good as AGP cards can get. Although don't expect to be able to ship from newegg to romania, but that's the product you would be looking for. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
As far as looking up labtop gpu's http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=302231 mostly goes on trust as pretty much only high end gpu's are benched normally for laptops and most of the times people as about low to mid range cards. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On November 24 2009 15:56 ghermination wrote: Is that a PCI-E video card or are you still holding onto agp? You'll probably be able to play fine but i would really recommend upgrading soon. The 6000+ is great, Windsor ftw. Edit: If you really NEED to hang onto agp for another year or so i would recommend the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161284&cm_re=4670_agp-_-14-161-284-_-Product 4670 AGP. It's pretty much as good as AGP cards can get. Although don't expect to be able to ship from newegg to romania, but that's the product you would be looking for. Wait how can he have a 6000+ on a AGP board the 6000+ was DDR2 firmly after the introduction of the Pcie introduction and transition as 393 was the transition socket for AMD in DDR2 and in Pcie and was pretty much a high end product. It's Pcie most likely don't know why they would make a board otherwise don't even know a chipset that could line up with that? | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On November 24 2009 15:37 ghermination wrote: Also, an fx5200 can capably run a double 2560x1600 setup. Really any dedicated video card is overkill for running multiple monitors. If that's all the functionality you're looking for a gts250 is waaaay overkill. I believe the 4770 has 2 DVI+Displayport. 4770? 5770 you mean has displayport And displayport unless you own a monitor with displayport already on it it's not a real option when you need an active converter to bring it to DVI or HDMI which cost around 100 bucks US which in some cases like the 5750 is the same as the card so wth and eyefinity requires all the same resolution in games really ATI is selling something that would be better off a year or two down the road when display port leaks into the market more. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On November 24 2009 16:40 Virtue wrote: 4770? 5770 you mean has displayport And displayport unless you own a monitor with displayport already on it it's not a real option when you need an active converter to bring it to DVI or HDMI which cost around 100 bucks US which in some cases like the 5750 is the same as the card so wth and eyefinity requires all the same resolution in games really ATI is selling something that would be better off a year or two down the road when display port leaks into the market more. The 4870 has no displayport so i guess that's the same for the 4770. ( It is dual DVI + S-video for the 4870 ) | ||
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dr.shrinker
Norway369 Posts
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5N-E SLI mainboard (RAM) 2GB, 370.93MB free (HDDs) 530GB, 119GB free (VGA1) NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT (512MB), 1680x1050x32, 120Hz (OS) Microsoft Windows XP Professional (SP3) , 19h 13m 17s uptime, 1w 1d 19h 21m 49s uptime record Monitor: Samsung 2233RZ 120hz TFT Keyboard: Just some random one Headset: Steelseries 5H v2 Mouse: Qpad 5K / Roccat Kone Mousemat: Qpad UC / Roccat Adrenaline Blue | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
It should be ok for mid-high. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
I've never notice image lag issues with all like 6 monitors i've been though so i find little use in getting those 120hz monitors. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On November 24 2009 18:05 Virtue wrote: I've never notice image lag issues with all like 6 monitors i've been though so i find little use in getting those 120hz monitors. You can 3D vision with an Nvidia card + special glasses and a 120hz | ||
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dr.shrinker
Norway369 Posts
On November 24 2009 18:05 Virtue wrote: 120hz monitor ah such a explorer! As 120hz is the next big thing next to LED monitors coming with in a year or two but that is so far away. I've never notice image lag issues with all like 6 monitors i've been though so i find little use in getting those 120hz monitors. The difference compared to a normal 60/75hz LCD is HUGE. I've previously had another 22" Samsung, but I sold it to a friend pretty fast because it was utter crap in FPS-games (used to a 120hz CRT). This one is actually pretty much as good as the CRT, didn't find it hard to switch over at all. Dunno how Starcraft is on 60/75hz, but at least you notice a big difference when it comes to FPS-games. It obviously depend on what you're used to, if you are comfortable with 60/75hz there's no point changing, but it's pretty awesome for those who are used to 100hz+ and want to get rid of their CRT and get something who takes "a bit" less space. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
In terms of "gaming" a decent 5ms and lower 60hz LCD provides plenty clarity in their image if you spend money on a LCD which last you years instead of cheaping out on it. Got tearing turn on your your Vertical sync you know they developed it for a reason. How many quality issues in games can be solved with V-sync just turned on is always fun. The monitor has an issue in displaying a frame it doesn't come in clean showing more frames in a second doesn't really change the experience it's just 120hz monitors have a higher standard in design for a lower frame lag as long as fluid motion is achieved people see the same things at the same time to say you can see it 1 frame faster is insane. A topless woman was slipped into i think the Disney movie of the adventures or something for only 1 frame in the movie no one noticed it until VCR and frame by frame was done. basically faster response time on posting a frame just does what this asus picture shows ![[image loading]](http://usa.asus.com/websites/global/products/lZh89jeJUW0lsTnS/08.jpg) As long as your monitor can show all the frames which most cannot and they drop frames regularly but as long as the frames shown aren't ghosting which is what the image above shows Having more frames to make the motion more fluid is a stupid response to have. I just wish there was a double blind study of 60 vs 100 vs 120 fps to see if people can actually tell because i'm pretty sure YOU CANT on a LCD becuase refresh rate/Hz means different things on a LCD then it does on a CRT Saying that your "gaming" experience is limited to no delay is not only stupid but ironic as the human body is filled with delayed reaction all we ever see is the past as we don't process instantaneous. And input lag is a moot point of a few ms when you play online and you have a lag of over 30+ms in latency And all you have to do is ask yourself one question, why do you need the advantage over other people, people play in tournament all have the monitor you saying you can't play a game if you think there is someone out there with a super insignificant advantage over you. People are spoiled and waste good opportunity. You know if i gave a CRT gamer of 24+" 1920x1200 monitor i would bet with in a week they would trow away their CRT LCD > CRT in image quality for 1 reason RESOLUTION higher resolution the more refined the game will look want to know what a real CRT gamer truly gets murdered on is in games with wide screen support they loose so much viewing space. ionno people who stick to CRT's just piss me off... pixel response is all that matter in LCD if it's fast the image comes in clean and there is no difference as long as fluid motion is achieved. And all 120hz LCD do is display 2 frames at once and blend this further removes motion blur but does not actually make it smoother. You don't compare frames from a CRT to an LCD because it's apples and oranges oh how the frames are rendered. early LCD's suffered badly from ghosting this is pixel response which degraded the quality of the image over time this has been minimized it's been minimized a bit further with the 120hz monitors but the difference from a good 2ms monitor is super minor. Fluid motion for the most part is achieved at 30fps proof is in crysis and how it displays fluid game play is easily done at 30fps in crysis even fast paced. http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/641/ it's an old article so the ghosting problem it's talking about is harsh but true if you are buying cheap monitors rant.rant.rant.saoufsdhf | ||
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DanceDance
226 Posts
CPU: Intel I5 Quad Core MB: Gigabyte P55-UD3P Graphics: Radeon 5770 Ram: DDR3 4gb Hard Drive: Seagate SATA2 500gb Screen: 1920 x 1080 Just chiming in on the LCD/CRT debate. I've been using CRT's for years. I purchased an expensive Samsung LCD monitor last week and I will never ever go back to CRT. The different between the two is huge. The LCD wins hands down. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
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DanceDance
226 Posts
On November 24 2009 19:15 Virtue wrote: 5770 at 1920x1080 might hold you back from ultra high settings but your obviously fine dance dance Yeah I think it might hold me back. I'm not sure. I've been playing cod:modern warfare 2 on this at max settings, it's definitely playable but you can see a little bit of a performance decrease. I don't think SC2 will be as graphic intensive as that, so it should be ok. | ||
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dr.shrinker
Norway369 Posts
On November 24 2009 18:57 Virtue wrote:lots of text Many people that play FPS games don't care too much about resolution (widescreen or not). I notice a huge difference between a 60/120hz (I play cs:source), and would rather go back to my CRT than play with a 60hz monitor. @ Boblion. 226BW I believe it was. | ||
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FuDDx
United States5007 Posts
4GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz 1024MB nVidia GeForce GT220 640GB Serial ATA 2 Hard Drive 7200 RPM Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio This is what I should have soon my real computer took a dump few days ago, just 3 hours before TSL2 started T_T hopefully this machine will run sc2 and diablo 3 and be up and running soon. | ||
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On November 25 2009 00:11 FuDDx wrote: ntel Core i7-920 processor (8MB L3 Cache 2.66GHz) 4GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz 1024MB nVidia GeForce GT220 640GB Serial ATA 2 Hard Drive 7200 RPM Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio This is what I should have soon my real computer took a dump few days ago, just 3 hours before TSL2 started T_T hopefully this machine will run sc2 and diablo 3 and be up and running soon. An i7 and a GTS 220? Either get a cheaper processor or a better video card with that, because an i7 is way overkill for that card. Plus i doubt that card would be able to run SC2 or DIII on full even on mid resolutions, i think it's worst that 8800gt. | ||
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