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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
June 29 2009 10:58 GMT
#41
Well even if blizzard does infact never change its mind, I think the community will obviously be able to make LAN possible through some way.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 29 2009 11:00 GMT
#42
On June 29 2009 19:54 SearingShadow wrote:
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On June 29 2009 19:42 Fen wrote:

What happens when my internet is capped and cant get onto bnet?
Capped means slowed down because you have reached your download cap?
In that case you will still be able to get on Battle.net. Even if your speed is very poor, you will still be able to play will people on your network at very fast speeds.

What happens when my internet is down?
You will not be able to play multi player.

What happens when we have lans that we cant get everyone onto an internet connection?
Why can't you get them onto an internet connection?



Because the internet is unreliable and every computer is different. If you have a LAN party of 15 people you honestly think they will all get connected without a hitch?

Is Blizzard seriously this stupid? I'm baffled right now
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
June 29 2009 11:00 GMT
#43
On June 29 2009 19:58 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
They better allow me to play with my roommates without having ANY ping.

If there is even 5 ping it is seriously stupid.

This is not like Blizzard at all. I sure hope they at least fix bnet 2.0 to allow more than one connection per IP onto the internet at once... if that isnt fixed then FML

I've never had problems with multiple IPs connecting to Battle.net.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 29 2009 11:02 GMT
#44
On June 29 2009 20:00 SearingShadow wrote:
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On June 29 2009 19:58 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
They better allow me to play with my roommates without having ANY ping.

If there is even 5 ping it is seriously stupid.

This is not like Blizzard at all. I sure hope they at least fix bnet 2.0 to allow more than one connection per IP onto the internet at once... if that isnt fixed then FML

I've never had problems with multiple IPs connecting to Battle.net.


In my last 3 places of residence I havent been able to connect to WC3 or sc with more than one computer per house. Its a pretty well documented problem, works for some people and doesnt work for a lot of others.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
June 29 2009 11:03 GMT
#45
On June 29 2009 19:19 GTR wrote:
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On June 29 2009 19:08 Suc wrote:
Now how will I play sc2 at school with mates!??!?!

But in all seriousness, Blizzard isn't retarded, they are probably implementing a feature that is similar to steam, i.e. you connect first and then you can go into LAN. I am in no way a Blizzard fan boy (sc only game), but I have complete faith in them pulling through with a successful system (hmm, may be becoming a Blizz fanboy D: ).


gl playing sc2 on school computers

Yeah lol I know my school computers would fail hard with sc2, it's just so many fond memories of LAN sc at school :D
despite
Profile Joined June 2009
Bulgaria105 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 11:12:27
June 29 2009 11:03 GMT
#46
Starcraft without lan is like Heroes 3 without hot seat.

Edit: To make it a longer post... What I mean is that gathering with friends is more fun than just staying in front of the screen and playing all day long like a game bot. Heroes 3 can be played on the internet but has always been more fun with hot seat. Same thing goes for starcraft lan parties. Its not the game that makes the fun, its friends.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 29 2009 11:07 GMT
#47
And also doesnt that mean that all these professional events will have to have internet connections on all their computers... thats just one more thing to go wrong while setting up computers between matches.

Also, being connected to the internet can cause problems of its own. One more thing to make your computer crash -_-
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 11:11:56
June 29 2009 11:09 GMT
#48
On June 29 2009 20:03 despite wrote:
Starcraft without lan is like Heroes 3 without hot seat.



might want to clarify that you meant HoMaM

edit: didnt mean for double post
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
June 29 2009 11:12 GMT
#49
On June 29 2009 20:02 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 20:00 SearingShadow wrote:
On June 29 2009 19:58 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
They better allow me to play with my roommates without having ANY ping.

If there is even 5 ping it is seriously stupid.

This is not like Blizzard at all. I sure hope they at least fix bnet 2.0 to allow more than one connection per IP onto the internet at once... if that isnt fixed then FML

I've never had problems with multiple IPs connecting to Battle.net.


In my last 3 places of residence I havent been able to connect to WC3 or sc with more than one computer per house. Its a pretty well documented problem, works for some people and doesnt work for a lot of others.

You probably do something wrong, I never had a problem with it. And yes you do get 0 ping to each other if you do.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 11:14:35
June 29 2009 11:13 GMT
#50
On June 29 2009 19:54 SearingShadow wrote:

What happens when my internet is capped and cant get onto bnet?
Capped means slowed down because you have reached your download cap?
In that case you will still be able to get on Battle.net. Even if your speed is very poor, you will still be able to play will people on your network at very fast speeds.


Ever tried it? Its frustrating. Getting a game going can take a very long time when on Lan it would be done in 10 seconds.

On June 29 2009 19:54 SearingShadow wrote:What happens when my internet is down?
You will not be able to play multi player.


And thats fair how? Will blizzard pay for internet upgrades in Australia for us?


On June 29 2009 19:54 SearingShadow wrote:What happens when my internet is down?What happens when we have lans that we cant get everyone onto an internet connection?
Why can't you get them onto an internet connection?


How many lans have you been to? Its a problem we encounter EVERY time. Generally due to not having the appropriate hardware to get everyone on the net.

The bottom line is that paying customers are going to be screwed over so blizzard can make it slightly harder for the non-paying customers. And everyone already knows that removing LAN is going to do fuck all to reduce pirating of this game.

What if im on a plane with a buddy and we wanna play starcraft 2 on our laptops to kill the time?
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
June 29 2009 11:14 GMT
#51
On June 29 2009 20:07 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
And also doesnt that mean that all these professional events will have to have internet connections on all their computers... thats just one more thing to go wrong while setting up computers between matches.

Also, being connected to the internet can cause problems of its own. One more thing to make your computer crash -_-

Once the game has started the internet connection because irrelevant. Even if the connection disconnects it will not affect the game.

Pretty sure an internet connection can't crash a computer.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 29 2009 11:16 GMT
#52
On June 29 2009 20:12 Klockan3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 20:02 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
On June 29 2009 20:00 SearingShadow wrote:
On June 29 2009 19:58 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
They better allow me to play with my roommates without having ANY ping.

If there is even 5 ping it is seriously stupid.

This is not like Blizzard at all. I sure hope they at least fix bnet 2.0 to allow more than one connection per IP onto the internet at once... if that isnt fixed then FML

I've never had problems with multiple IPs connecting to Battle.net.


In my last 3 places of residence I havent been able to connect to WC3 or sc with more than one computer per house. Its a pretty well documented problem, works for some people and doesnt work for a lot of others.

You probably do something wrong, I never had a problem with it. And yes you do get 0 ping to each other if you do.


Yes. I do something wrong by connecting 2 computers to the internet and then trying to connect to battle.net. There really isnt much that you can screw up. I know of more people who have problems with multiple accounts on one IP address than I know who have no problem.

I am glad it works for you. If you have the magic answer onto how its my fault that it doesnt work then please, feel free to share it. Until then, Starcraft 2 not having LAN makes playing with friends a nightmare. I really dont see the point.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 11:19:24
June 29 2009 11:17 GMT
#53
On June 29 2009 20:02 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 20:00 SearingShadow wrote:
On June 29 2009 19:58 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
They better allow me to play with my roommates without having ANY ping.

If there is even 5 ping it is seriously stupid.

This is not like Blizzard at all. I sure hope they at least fix bnet 2.0 to allow more than one connection per IP onto the internet at once... if that isnt fixed then FML

I've never had problems with multiple IPs connecting to Battle.net.


In my last 3 places of residence I havent been able to connect to WC3 or sc with more than one computer per house. Its a pretty well documented problem, works for some people and doesnt work for a lot of others.


Ive actually had the same problem, I think it ended up being something with the modem as it went away when we got a new one.

Ive also had a problem where people cannot join my games on battlenet. Not a problem when your playing via LAN.
shaozu
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
China178 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 11:21:16
June 29 2009 11:18 GMT
#54
this is terrible for chinese progamers...we don't have good internet connections like korea.
not to mention to make it even harder to set up an "offline" event here.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 29 2009 11:20 GMT
#55
On June 29 2009 20:17 Fen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 20:02 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
On June 29 2009 20:00 SearingShadow wrote:
On June 29 2009 19:58 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
They better allow me to play with my roommates without having ANY ping.

If there is even 5 ping it is seriously stupid.

This is not like Blizzard at all. I sure hope they at least fix bnet 2.0 to allow more than one connection per IP onto the internet at once... if that isnt fixed then FML

I've never had problems with multiple IPs connecting to Battle.net.


In my last 3 places of residence I havent been able to connect to WC3 or sc with more than one computer per house. Its a pretty well documented problem, works for some people and doesnt work for a lot of others.


Ive actually had the same problem, I think it ended up being something with the modem.

Ive also had a problem where people cannot join my games on battlenet. Not a problem when your playing via LAN.


Yeah, I've had 3 different modems, 2 different internet providers, and 3 different routers and have always had the same problem. Thankfully at my new place I can have people join my games (never could before) so thats a good change I suppose.

I just dont see why they'd expect e-sports events to have all their computers connected to the internet. That just seems like it would cause a world of pain considering something as small as a mouse, keyboard, headphones, LAN, monitor etc etc etc can cause delays.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
June 29 2009 11:20 GMT
#56
On June 29 2009 20:18 shaozu wrote:
this is terrible for chinese progamers...we don't have good internet connections like korea.

You can play on LAN through Bnet.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
June 29 2009 11:23 GMT
#57
On June 29 2009 20:20 SearingShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 20:18 shaozu wrote:
this is terrible for chinese progamers...we don't have good internet connections like korea.

You can play on LAN through Bnet.


And if your in a LAN cafe and you want to throw out an open invitation for anyone whos on the LAN with you to play a game of starcraft 2. How do you go about doing this using Bnet? With LAN its as simple as going to the lan lobby and making a game.
shaozu
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
China178 Posts
June 29 2009 11:26 GMT
#58
On June 29 2009 20:20 SearingShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 20:18 shaozu wrote:
this is terrible for chinese progamers...we don't have good internet connections like korea.

You can play on LAN through Bnet.


i thought the lan option was removed. so there is stillt the lan option but you have to access bnet first?
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
June 29 2009 11:27 GMT
#59
On June 29 2009 20:23 Fen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 20:20 SearingShadow wrote:
On June 29 2009 20:18 shaozu wrote:
this is terrible for chinese progamers...we don't have good internet connections like korea.

You can play on LAN through Bnet.


And if your in a LAN cafe and you want to throw out an open invitation for anyone whos on the LAN with you to play a game of starcraft 2. How do you go about doing this using Bnet? With LAN its as simple as going to the lan lobby and making a game.

Hopefully Blizzard adds the ability to filter games so that you can only see games hosted by people on your network.
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 11:29:00
June 29 2009 11:27 GMT
#60
On June 29 2009 20:26 shaozu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 20:20 SearingShadow wrote:
On June 29 2009 20:18 shaozu wrote:
this is terrible for chinese progamers...we don't have good internet connections like korea.

You can play on LAN through Bnet.


i thought the lan option was removed. so there is stillt the lan option but you have to access bnet first?

If you play on battle.net with people on the same network as you, there will be no lag.
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