Beta Proleague Maps! - Page 2

On March 17 2009 21:40 thedeadhaji wrote:
*ejaculates*

On March 17 2009 21:56 p4NDemik wrote:
Battle Royal is too concepty for PL in my opinion

On March 17 2009 19:34 GTR wrote:

중원 (Joongwon) / Central Plains
This map looks like its mad unbalanced, atleast just from first glance so who knows. It looks like in TvZ a zerg can go to 3 gas hive super easily immediately after lair tech units come out without over extending. I can see 3 hatch lurker builds with mad fast evolution chambers coming out for extremely fast late game play. As for TvP, this looks way too easy for terran. Nice ridges in the middle prevent flanking while you have a super easy 3 bases and roll out. Also -- are those islands without anti-lift?? nice~

황혼의그림자 (Hwanghonuigrumja) / Shades of Twilight
The map looks pretty similar to reverse return of the king. I think we're going to see byzantium-like play with pretty balanced late game and the occasional early aggression.

신의정원 (Shin Uijangwon) / God's Garden
Im fucking sick of these maps with 100% unbuildable middle. This is going to be mad nice for 3 base pushes again though-- I cant see this map winnable for Z vs P though. From the looks of it you can make a sim city that protects 3 gas bases from the very start. I think we should see a toss try forge cannon cannon nexus nexus ^^

단장의능선 (Danjanguineungsun) / The English name is Battle of Heartbreak Ridge, so let's just call it Heartbreak Ridge
I'm not sure how much the ridges are going to play into the game. As a terran player I can see P/Z army just running around circles and because of the map architecture never being able to stop counters and perfect surrounds. Also drop play and stupid ling backstabs seem way too powerful with that second entrance.

배틀로얄 / Battle Royal
I can't wait to play on this map. I think its gonna show some crazy awesome games even if it isnt balanced

아웃사이더 / Outsider
750 Minerals is a lot -- I can't see these really ever being used besides cheese -- which I'm expecting a lot of. Could turn out to be an interesting map though

On March 17 2009 23:04 lordmordor wrote:
im definitely likeing a lot of these, should make for some interesting games. Im really glad to see outsider though. I don't remember the last time i saw a pro game on Ash-world tileset.

any reason its not used as much as Twilight or Jungle?

On March 17 2009 23:16 thunk wrote:
And they should just rename Central Plains Flashland.

On March 17 2009 23:11 Chill wrote:
OK cool let's try if BGH is balanced again (hint: it's not).

On March 17 2009 23:57 p4NDemik wrote:

Starleagues can get away with more concepty (and oftentimes imbalanced) maps because the players have almost no control over who they play in the next round after the group selection shows and once the league is in progress. Maps like Plasma succeed in stimulating interesting play in Starleagues because Zergs, Terrans, and Protosses all have to play on them.

Stick these same concept maps in PL and they fail hard. Why? Because the coaches have total control over who plays on them. And because these maps have balance issues almost 100% of the time, you'll see coaches send out one race on a concept map, and then everyone begins to dread every game that is played on that map. Seriously the novelty wears off fast when all you see is TvT's or ZvZ's on a map.

So I welcome concept maps like Battle Royal in Starleagues, but for God's sake keep it out of PL.