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mjh
Profile Joined November 2007
United States133 Posts
January 03 2009 22:40 GMT
#21
p is quite hard 2v2 though, right? i've gotten much higher on for fun 2v2s using z/t than with p.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 03 2009 22:41 GMT
#22
Because of 1a2a3a
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
January 03 2009 22:42 GMT
#23
On January 04 2009 07:21 naonao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 07:16 grobo wrote:
If Terran or Zerg are careless they can lose entire groups to storm/lurkers/whatever in a matter of seconds.

Are you saying that protoss are immune to storm/lurkers?


Yup, that's exactly what i was saying.

Protoss are immune to storm/lurkers.

...
We make signature, then defense it.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
January 03 2009 22:42 GMT
#24
This isn't a quality thread, but I laughed out loud at the poll, so I guess we'll leave it open for a bit.
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
January 03 2009 22:45 GMT
#25
That's a pointless question. People allways think one race is harder than another and so on. But people play the game on different levels. If the question was "Which race is harder to play at D level ICCup" or "Which race is the hardest to play on public LT games on Bnet" it might have had an answer.

Example:

At extremely low level play people find terran the easiest because they can make mass bunkers and siege tanks and an equal opponent can't penetrate that defense.

At a slightly higher level where the players have just gotten an understanding of the importance of building workers constantly and making many units and learning about rushes most players would probably find protoss the easiest because their units are relatively easy to control against people who also has bad control. Basically attackmoved protoss units wins vs attackmoved units of another race.

At about D ICCup level one could argue that zerg can be easy to win with since at that level you can han bang your way through most opponents and thus you don't have to learn the art of lategame or harassment builds.

Sure I could 10/15 my way up to C- in PvT on medusa easily but I also managed to do that with all in zerg builds last season and earlier this season I could farm TvZ wins with mech builds on Destination because 90% or D+ players don't even know the vulture rush is coming. All that matters balance wise is what level you are currently on and what level your opponent is on and the scope is so wide that saying there is a universally easiest race is just about the stupidest thing you could say.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 03 2009 22:47 GMT
#26
On January 04 2009 07:45 StarBrift wrote:
That's a pointless question. People allways think one race is harder than another and so on. But people play the game on different levels. If the question was "Which race is harder to play at D level ICCup" or "Which race is the hardest to play on public LT games on Bnet" it might have had an answer.

Example:

At extremely low level play people find terran the easiest because they can make mass bunkers and siege tanks and an equal opponent can't penetrate that defense.

At a slightly higher level where the players have just gotten an understanding of the importance of building workers constantly and making many units and learning about rushes most players would probably find protoss the easiest because their units are relatively easy to control against people who also has bad control. Basically attackmoved protoss units wins vs attackmoved units of another race.

At about D ICCup level one could argue that zerg can be easy to win with since at that level you can han bang your way through most opponents and thus you don't have to learn the art of lategame or harassment builds.

Sure I could 10/15 my way up to C- in PvT on medusa easily but I also managed to do that with all in zerg builds last season and earlier this season I could farm TvZ wins with mech builds on Destination because 90% or D+ players don't even know the vulture rush is coming. All that matters balance wise is what level you are currently on and what level your opponent is on and the scope is so wide that saying there is a universally easiest race is just about the stupidest thing you could say.

I agree! Unless you imply that Protoss is not the easiest race. :/
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FREEloss_ca
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada603 Posts
January 03 2009 22:49 GMT
#27
Ultimately...It's not.
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AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
January 03 2009 22:50 GMT
#28
Yeah, protoss is definitely the easiest, especially at lower levels. I remember trying to play terran for 6 months or so and getting almost nowhere (c5 level on WGT around 4 years ago), then I switched to protoss and suddenly I was owning people. It could be that protoss is just more suited to my style, but realistically it really is easier, especially PvT vs TvP. PvZ was a lot easier for the zerg back then though because of the maps and lack of fast expo experience, but I guess nowadays people don't have a problem with it anymore.
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
January 03 2009 22:59 GMT
#29
Protoss macro is also way easier. Lesser number of units but stronger = longer building time = less time needed to spend on building units. Also building more gates is just taking one probe, sap, sap, back to mineral line and you got two more gateways.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4141 Posts
January 03 2009 23:00 GMT
#30
Hahahaha the poll is total ownage
NahLGaE
Profile Joined February 2008
Korea (South)523 Posts
January 03 2009 23:23 GMT
#31
On January 04 2009 07:26 Sadist wrote:
Protoss has the largest room for error.

The units are relatively strong and mobile so you arent punished as bad for being out of position or caught off guard because you can run away. Toss can harass OR play passively pretty easily. The micro is very simple.


Zerg is fragile and theres always the drone management.
Terran is hard to use effectively, the multi task and annoying pathing with slowish units can cause some stupid errors, not to mention if caught out of position the terran army is REALLY shitty.


Toss also has really good build orders nowadays. You can get big leads that are very difficult to overcome for lower tiered terran and zergs.


i disagree. terran has the largest room for error because even if they fuck up and lose, for example, a group of mm to lurkers, they still always have the 'han bahng' (one hit), ie. they can hold up and amass one last blob to push out and either end it or lose.

and at lower lvls, toss is proly easier but at higher lvls toss requires quite a bit of micro if you wanna be really good. if you look at the 6 dragons they all have really good micro with the exception of best who makes up for it with insane macro ;o

but at lower lvls also, pvz is still ridiculously hard so it kinda makes up for it >>
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EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
January 03 2009 23:41 GMT
#32
p is soooooooo easy
I'm like, the coolest
iD.NicKy
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
France767 Posts
January 03 2009 23:44 GMT
#33
i played the 3 races, found p way easier.
On iccup, i went :
P = C+
Z = C
T = C-
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 03 2009 23:46 GMT
#34
I always thought its easier to be a center forward than a midfielder (talking about football) but hey who knows, i never reached a consensus because well.

+ Show Spoiler +
its a fucking dumb argument
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 03 2009 23:57 GMT
#35
Where's the poll option for; "The game of Starcraft is hard as **** to play."

There is no easy race. Some may be slightly easier than others are different levels but this entire game is VERY hard to play well.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 04 2009 00:05 GMT
#36
On January 04 2009 07:42 Hot_Bid wrote:
This isn't a quality thread, but I laughed out loud at the poll, so I guess we'll leave it open for a bit.

Thx Hot_Bid! The truth must come out!
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Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 00:12:38
January 04 2009 00:06 GMT
#37
Don't confuse easy with powerful, protoss is easy. Protoss has strong, but more expensive units -> less to marco -> less to micro. Protoss require less bases than zerg to play properly, although more than terran. However, to use a terran army you need to siege + lay mines very well to not get steam rolled by a basic protoss push.
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1087 Posts
January 04 2009 00:08 GMT
#38
Reaver + Corsairs require alot of skills. Most other protoss builds require less skill than most terran or zerg builds/unitcombos.
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Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
January 04 2009 00:11 GMT
#39
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nothin` more
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Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
January 04 2009 00:19 GMT
#40
On January 04 2009 09:11 Jaeden wrote:
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