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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 01:29:40
January 04 2009 01:29 GMT
#61
On January 04 2009 09:47 Tien wrote:
I'm a shitty C/C+ zerg with mediocre mechanics.


Does this mean within 6 months time I can become a B protoss??????


only if you're really slow

90 APM DT rush gogo
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
January 04 2009 01:32 GMT
#62
I don't think anyones saying imbalanced. Just the fact clearly at lower levels its much easier to play. Similar skill level protoss vs zerg or terran is easier to win that the opposite. It seems very easy against protoss to get quickly overwhelmed if any mistakes are made.
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
January 04 2009 01:38 GMT
#63
Wow! That poll. LOL, wasn't expecting it to be that much of a landslide
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
HaiVan
Profile Joined April 2005
Bulgaria1698 Posts
January 04 2009 01:45 GMT
#64
I have a friend that used to play zerg for like 6-7 years. I play random. When we played vs each other he would probably win 1 in 20 games if he was lucky and i was trying to be cute with some wierd strategy. Well, same friend more recently began to play protoss from time to time, wining at least 2-3 PvT in 10 games vs me, having played maybe less than 100 games as protoss.
I also find it the easiest to win as P after i've had a long break from SC, say over six months.
Listen to The Special One
Shado.
Profile Joined February 2008
United States187 Posts
January 04 2009 03:46 GMT
#65
As a Z user, I can't play any of the other races well and once you get the hang of muta micro, zerg is pretty easy to play...
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 04 2009 03:57 GMT
#66
wait oops I just accidentally clicked Z T.T

well I have discovered that after playing T for like a year I still cannot win games on ICCUP because I have no idea what to do... and pushing is so damn hard
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 04 2009 03:57 GMT
#67
at a really basic level you can get away with saying that each race needs one skill.

Have macro? go P
have micro? go T
Have gamesense? go Z
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
January 04 2009 03:58 GMT
#68
On January 04 2009 10:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Because they require less mechanics, at the foreign level Protoss is very easy.

I'm a terran player, with around 260 APM and I lose almost every game on ICCUP.

...

On weeks that I play Toss (off-race mind you) I get to D/D+.

...

-I could go to C+ with Toss if I main raced it and learned all the build orders/theory, I have pretty good macro.


Made my day.
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
January 04 2009 04:06 GMT
#69
[image loading]

Poll: Which Race cries harder?
(Vote): Zerg (OMFG MAPS)
(Vote): Terran (OMFG 1a2a3a)
(Vote): Protoss (Why everyone says we are noob?)

fixed a little
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
January 04 2009 04:12 GMT
#70
the OP's poll is the greatest thing of all time
Writerman what
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
January 04 2009 04:23 GMT
#71
On January 04 2009 13:06 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Which Race cries harder?
(Vote): Zerg (OMFG MAPS)
(Vote): Terran (OMFG 1a2a3a)
(Vote): Protoss (Why everyone says we are noob?)

fixed a little


Think Artosis, lol.
GANDHISAUCE
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
January 04 2009 04:25 GMT
#72
voted for zerg though, they even cried back in the days pvz was like 40-60 on every map
mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
January 04 2009 04:42 GMT
#73
It's been said by the progamers many times, that the biggest imbal unit in sc is vulture, and biggest imbal mu is tvz :D

Hence all I see is terrans wining cause they can't man up and learn to multitask better ;D
Why So Serious?!
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 04 2009 05:01 GMT
#74
If protoss was so easy at low level then you wouldn't see any D-/D protosses since theyll all kickass up to D+/C-

But D-/D are filled with protosses...
bisu fanboy
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
January 04 2009 05:08 GMT
#75
On January 04 2009 14:01 fearus wrote:
If protoss was so easy at low level then you wouldn't see any D-/D protosses since theyll all kickass up to D+/C-

But D-/D are filled with protosses...

too many protosses... they lose against each other?
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
January 04 2009 05:19 GMT
#76
On January 04 2009 14:08 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 14:01 fearus wrote:
If protoss was so easy at low level then you wouldn't see any D-/D protosses since theyll all kickass up to D+/C-

But D-/D are filled with protosses...

too many protosses... they lose against each other?

try to get over D-/D ranks ^^
Person514cs
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1004 Posts
January 04 2009 05:20 GMT
#77
Just take a look at TLPD on the right side of this page. Highest ranking race is clearly protoss then terran then zerg. There is almost no zerg near the top except Jaedong (he would probably be much better had he focused on Protoss when he started).
Peace and love, for ever.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
January 04 2009 05:31 GMT
#78
I'm D+/C- iccup generally, with Z being my strongest race (that gets me to C-) and P usually keeps me high D+. I would debate I can even play Terran at a D+ level at all, and struggle vs other D's.

I find terran the hardest to play, but maybe it's because of the mere lack of trying to even play them. When I do I find myself not throwing down enough factories and the timing of whcih I add them is utterly terrible, I for some reason rarely get past 6 factories (which I can build with ok timing), and then I get slaughtered in macro.

While I can macro MM fine, I can't manage them for shit. Like at ALL. Instantly gets killed by anything.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 05:48:52
January 04 2009 05:38 GMT
#79
Everyone saying "protoss is easy, and terran is hard" is a joke. Please try to play PvT around B- level it is so fucking hard.

What does "protoss is easy at low levels" mean? Does that mean around C- level? Cause all the time I see zergs easying there way up to C, using 2 hatch builds, mass ling builds, 5 pools.

What about terrans on iccup? TvP at low levels I can almost gurrentee that the terran will just 110 supply push and rape most protoss players.

Most the people here saying protoss is an easy race are just nooby bandwagoners.

I don't follow the pro scene too closely but from my knowledge I can say that there has been no top protoss player for any long period of time, no one that comes close the the reigns that Boxer, or Savior, or NaDa, or July have had. So even if protoss is "EASY" at low levels such as D+ and C- who the fuck cares? Since it is clearly the harder race through the higher levels, and the higher levels are where it counts.

Stop bitching because your bad. Stop bitching because you want to look like you know what your talking about.

EDIT* O yea and for people saying that protoss is easy because it doesn't require apm, you really need to look at apm threads. APM MEANS NOTHING.
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
January 04 2009 05:50 GMT
#80
On January 04 2009 14:38 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Everyone saying "protoss is easy, and terran is hard" is a joke. Please try to play PvT around B- level it is so fucking hard.

What does "protoss is easy at low levels" mean? Does that mean around C- level? Cause all the time I see zergs easying there way up to C, using 2 hatch builds, mass ling builds, 5 pools.

What about terrans on iccup? TvP at low levels I can almost gurrentee that the terran will just 110 supply push and rape most protoss players.

Most the people here saying protoss is an easy race are just nooby bandwagoners.

I don't follow the pro scene too closely but from my knowledge I can say that there has been no top protoss player for any long period of time, no one that comes close the the reigns that Boxer, or Savior, or NaDa, or July have had. So even if protoss is "EASY" at low levels such as D+ and C- who the fuck cares? Since it is clearly the harder race through the higher levels, and the higher levels are where it counts.

Stop bitching because your bad. Stop bitching because you want to look like you know what your talking about.

EDIT* O yea and for people saying that protoss is easy because it doesn't require apm, you really need to look at apm threads. APM MEANS NOTHING.

I bet I could beat you if you couldn't go above 15 apm.
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