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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
October 16 2008 21:23 GMT
#41
On October 17 2008 06:21 clazziquai wrote:
T IS SO IMBA PVT I HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Its why I stopped playing melee is because of that matchup haha.

Oh yeah, Xellos has won at least one Starleague, HwaSIn won a WCG qualifier, so they've made it to the top at least once =P

But yeah I guess T is so imbalanced, after all the best female player is a T =P
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
October 16 2008 21:24 GMT
#42
On October 17 2008 06:17 F13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 06:14 foodontable wrote:
On October 17 2008 06:12 F13 wrote:
On October 17 2008 06:10 fusionsdf wrote:

TT_TT

scvs overpowered? lololol


When Terran drops vultures in a Protoss base, they will do 2 hits to kill each probe. When Protoss drops Goons into T base, it will take 6 hits to kill each SCV. Please tell me that it is balanced when looking at it in that perspective




What kind of retard drops goons into an scv line? There's a reason certain units are used for harassing. (Reavers and ht anybody?)


I'm not saying goons have to be dropped, but there are lots of times when there will be goons just shooting at SCV because P army just overran the Terran expo. I am just saying in the instance when Goons meet SCV, not necessarily using goons to harrass

Storms will be more effective if the worker was 40 health rather than 60

Due to a variant on Poe's Law I can't tell whether or not you were joking or are just that noob.

letsbefree
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada123 Posts
October 16 2008 21:24 GMT
#43
On October 17 2008 06:20 F13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 06:13 letsbefree wrote:
On October 17 2008 06:09 F13 wrote:
The only reason you guys believe that the game is balanced is because other people have said it. When was the last time you analyzed and compared each similiar unit of each race? I am sure there are probably some Pro gamers who think the game is not balanced, but do not want to speak out because it will attract negative criticism. Especially because this is an old game. Blizzard failed to tune-down Terrans before turning to SC2



And the only reason you think it's unbalanced is because either you lose too much to terrans or you don't play terran at all. From the perspective of gameplay, do you know how hard it is to spread marines against lurkers? to micro your vessels to dodge scourages? to constantly plant mines in TvP? to goliath micro against carriers? to dodge Dark Swarms? It's not a matter of whether the game is balanced or not, it's skills that matters.


Vessels getting scourged should not happen if they are close by your m&m army. Its just Terran player's negligance and mistake if Vessels get scourged. Dodging dark swarms is relatively easy for higher level players, I see them always stimming and pulling back. Constantly planting mines might sound like a "problem" in your persepective but the actual ability to do that in the 1st place is like a reward. Protosses dont have useful powerful mines to plant in the 1st place

Spreading marines against lurkers? Tanks > lurkers, and usually its the Zerg army (lurkers) that comes to your stationary Terran army. When lurkers come, stim and get ready to pull back after few seconds. Rinse and repeat.


Yea you can try building shitloads of tanks in the early game vs Z and see how many tanks you'll make before you get raped.
hehe...
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
October 16 2008 21:25 GMT
#44
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 17 2008 06:24 letsbefree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 06:20 F13 wrote:
On October 17 2008 06:13 letsbefree wrote:
On October 17 2008 06:09 F13 wrote:
The only reason you guys believe that the game is balanced is because other people have said it. When was the last time you analyzed and compared each similiar unit of each race? I am sure there are probably some Pro gamers who think the game is not balanced, but do not want to speak out because it will attract negative criticism. Especially because this is an old game. Blizzard failed to tune-down Terrans before turning to SC2



And the only reason you think it's unbalanced is because either you lose too much to terrans or you don't play terran at all. From the perspective of gameplay, do you know how hard it is to spread marines against lurkers? to micro your vessels to dodge scourages? to constantly plant mines in TvP? to goliath micro against carriers? to dodge Dark Swarms? It's not a matter of whether the game is balanced or not, it's skills that matters.


Vessels getting scourged should not happen if they are close by your m&m army. Its just Terran player's negligance and mistake if Vessels get scourged. Dodging dark swarms is relatively easy for higher level players, I see them always stimming and pulling back. Constantly planting mines might sound like a "problem" in your persepective but the actual ability to do that in the 1st place is like a reward. Protosses dont have useful powerful mines to plant in the 1st place

Spreading marines against lurkers? Tanks > lurkers, and usually its the Zerg army (lurkers) that comes to your stationary Terran army. When lurkers come, stim and get ready to pull back after few seconds. Rinse and repeat.


Yea you can try building shitloads of tanks in the early game vs Z and see how many tanks you'll make before you get raped.


unless your iloveoov =P
dark_mOOn26
Profile Joined July 2007
Canada5 Posts
October 16 2008 21:26 GMT
#45
On October 17 2008 06:12 F13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 06:10 fusionsdf wrote:

TT_TT

scvs overpowered? lololol


When Terran drops vultures in a Protoss base, they will do 2 hits to kill each probe. When Protoss drops Goons into T base, it will take 6 hits to kill each SCV. Its not that SCV is powerful, its just that they have too much life to be fair. Killing workers is a optimal method of offset the opponent's economy; this is why SCV life have to be reduced to make harrassment equal



you can't be serious ....
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letsbefree
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada123 Posts
October 16 2008 21:26 GMT
#46
On October 17 2008 06:25 MorningMusume11 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 17 2008 06:24 letsbefree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2008 06:20 F13 wrote:
On October 17 2008 06:13 letsbefree wrote:
On October 17 2008 06:09 F13 wrote:
The only reason you guys believe that the game is balanced is because other people have said it. When was the last time you analyzed and compared each similiar unit of each race? I am sure there are probably some Pro gamers who think the game is not balanced, but do not want to speak out because it will attract negative criticism. Especially because this is an old game. Blizzard failed to tune-down Terrans before turning to SC2



And the only reason you think it's unbalanced is because either you lose too much to terrans or you don't play terran at all. From the perspective of gameplay, do you know how hard it is to spread marines against lurkers? to micro your vessels to dodge scourages? to constantly plant mines in TvP? to goliath micro against carriers? to dodge Dark Swarms? It's not a matter of whether the game is balanced or not, it's skills that matters.


Vessels getting scourged should not happen if they are close by your m&m army. Its just Terran player's negligance and mistake if Vessels get scourged. Dodging dark swarms is relatively easy for higher level players, I see them always stimming and pulling back. Constantly planting mines might sound like a "problem" in your persepective but the actual ability to do that in the 1st place is like a reward. Protosses dont have useful powerful mines to plant in the 1st place

Spreading marines against lurkers? Tanks > lurkers, and usually its the Zerg army (lurkers) that comes to your stationary Terran army. When lurkers come, stim and get ready to pull back after few seconds. Rinse and repeat.


Yea you can try building shitloads of tanks in the early game vs Z and see how many tanks you'll make before you get raped.


unless your iloveoov =P


Or Flash or Boxer with gosu micro
hehe...
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
October 16 2008 21:28 GMT
#47
Ultralisks, Defilers, Mutalisks, Lurkers, Reavers, Templars (both of them), Arbiters, and Carriers are all imba too. They should all be nerfed as well!
this is my quote.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
October 16 2008 21:29 GMT
#48
PvT being my strongest matchup, F13 makes me cry...
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
October 16 2008 21:30 GMT
#49
60hp linebackers IMBA!!!!!!
Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
October 16 2008 21:31 GMT
#50
On October 17 2008 06:30 Lz wrote:
60hp linebackers IMBA!!!!!!


SCV Football yeah~!!!!!!!
Firebathero is still the best!
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 16 2008 21:31 GMT
#51
I agree. Fuck terran. Fuck them and their stupid asses.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
October 16 2008 21:31 GMT
#52
I can't believe this thread hasn't been locked yet
O.O
May the BeSt man win.
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
October 16 2008 21:31 GMT
#53
F13, maybe you could make a map with these changes incorporated? My little sister would like to Z/PvT you on it.
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
October 16 2008 21:32 GMT
#54
this got to be a joke, i can't believe anyone put so much work in such a "post"
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
October 16 2008 21:32 GMT
#55
LOL LOL F13, why don't u insert this in the beginning of ur OP?
"okay, i know i suck at this game. every terran i face rapes me. i'm just pissed that i REEEALLY SUCK"
SNSD fan
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
October 16 2008 21:32 GMT
#56
Jeez if its so imba just contact blizzard designers, im pretty sure they'll have a whack at it
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
October 16 2008 21:33 GMT
#57
Epic post
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
letsbefree
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada123 Posts
October 16 2008 21:34 GMT
#58
LOL
LOLLL
LOLLLLL
LOLLLLLLL
LOLLLLLLLLLLL
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL OMG OMG OMG 60HP SCV'S OMG IMBA TERRAN OMFG
hehe...
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
October 16 2008 21:34 GMT
#59
Guys either this is an obvious troll, or F13 has the intelligence of tuna.

I'm assuming the former.

Actually, it is a testament to how good Starcraft is that every unit is "imba" in its own way. It shows that every (well most) units have a unique purpose and can be effective.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2013 Posts
October 16 2008 21:36 GMT
#60
Your argumentation is flawed.
Although I cannot blame you, I had some similiar thought of Terran when I had 6 posts.

Theory != Empirical evidence on many occasions

Vulture is a very good unit, but the most significant drawback is concusive damage and supply cost of 2.
Every and any Terran ground unit can be slaughtered with Ultra+ling+defiler combo - How is that fair?
Arbiters can recall to Terran main(and destroy it) and bloke choke with statis while Terran can hardly do anything to prevent it.
Terran is most cost efficient but is also the race most prone to abuse of high tech units.

One thing your right is the cost supply's aren't fair.
In perfect universe Tanks would be like 2.5 supply, Vultures and Zealots like 1.5. It would be fair but it would be more ugly and complicated at the same time.
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
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