2008 US Presidential Election - Page 72
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XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On September 27 2008 11:39 Jibba wrote: The holocaust comparison is absolutely absurd. They're using guilt as a tactic every time they mention it, but current Israeli jews are not the fucking same as most other jews. The anti-zionist sentiment is valid. Even Ben Gurion agreed with that. Actually i also think that Israel creation was one of the biggest "robbery" of the last century. We didnt give their own country to Roma people for example but they were also killed by nazis. But i think that you can't repair an injustice with another. | ||
Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
Mc Cain held his ground in economy from a purely debative point of view, focusing more on Obama's inconsistencies in his message and his voting and managing to coat the fact that his plan to heal the economy didn't contain much more than the plans to cut taxes and spending. Seeing as people were generally expecting Obama to get the better out of a debate on economy, I guess that can be counted as a win for Mc Cain. On the other hand, Obama really held his own in foreign relations. Whereas in the economy debate, Mc Cain's strategy of attacking Obama rather than outlining his own ideas worked well enough for a tie that means a win for him, in foreign relations, the pinnacle of Mc Cain's knowledge and experience, it seemed a bit meagre to me. He seemed neither more knowledgeable (even though he certainly stressed the point that he's seen something of the world) nor did he get his points across more clearly than Obama, he actually started rambling relatively randomly on one or two of the questions. | ||
Savio
United States1850 Posts
My vote: "I have a bracelet too." --Obama | ||
Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On September 27 2008 11:54 Savio wrote: Ok, so what was the single most memorable line of the debate? My vote: "I have a bracelet too." --Obama hahaha I would agree with that. number two would be AHMANJNJJJEHAD | ||
thoraxe
United States1449 Posts
On September 27 2008 11:54 Savio wrote: Ok, so what was the single most memorable line of the debate? My vote: "I have a bracelet too." --Obama I'm gonna have to disagree with you there Savio(which means wise in Spanish). It will have to be an "orgy of spending". Fuck, I had a hard time writing down the name Alljalamejad, while at the same time paying attention to what they were saying and catching up in what I missed with subtitles. | ||
Savio
United States1850 Posts
On September 27 2008 11:53 Orome wrote: My thoughts: Mc Cain held his ground in economy from a purely debative point of view, focusing more on Obama's inconsistencies in his message and his voting and managing to coat the fact that his plan to heal the economy didn't contain much more than the plans to cut taxes and spending. Seeing as people were generally expecting Obama to get the better out of a debate on economy, I guess that can be counted as a win for Mc Cain. On the other hand, Obama really held his own in foreign relations. Whereas in the economy debate, Mc Cain's strategy of attacking Obama rather than outlining his own ideas worked well enough for a tie that means a win for him, in foreign relations, the pinnacle of Mc Cain's knowledge and experience, it seemed a bit meagre to me. He seemed neither more knowledgeable (even though he certainly stressed the point that he's seen something of the world) nor did he get his points across more clearly than Obama, he actually started rambling relatively randomly on one or two of the questions. I agree with this. McCain did well during the economy portion sticking to spending issues and Obama record on them. But Obama did well in emphasizing Afghanistan. McCain did ramble sometimes about things long past and not necessarily relevant. Seemed pretty dang close to a brawl. On a side note: Aren't American debates a little boring and too reserved. I love watching the British just go at it and throw junk at eachother. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On September 27 2008 11:42 shmay wrote: ? The economies most open to foreign trade are Hong Kong and Singapore. The WSJ/Heritage measures are flawed, and the government still controls all property in Hong Kong. It has certainly done exceptionally well, but it's also been a major beneficiary of the West. Those two countries also probably have the two best trade locations in the world. Government intervention is actually responsible for a lot of the growth in Singapore and it's surpising that it's remained so transparent. They're capitalist but it's not a free market and the competitive advantage is really due to the massive poverty gap in the country, not the advantage of the product itself. Instead of getting exploited for a natural resource, they're letting their workers get exploited. It's going to lead to problems down the road. | ||
fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On September 27 2008 11:56 thoraxe wrote: I'm gonna have to disagree with you there Savio(which means wise in Spanish). It will have to be an "orgy of spending". Actually, "Sabio" means wise in Spanish. Savio is the latin version of the word. | ||
Savio
United States1850 Posts
"I have a bracelet too." | ||
Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
*CHEERS* | ||
thoraxe
United States1449 Posts
On September 27 2008 11:58 Savio wrote: Actually, "Sabio" means wise in Spanish. Savio is the latin version of the word. it means practically the same thing. Spanish, Latin, what difference does it make, Spanish copied Latin. + Show Spoiler + sarcasm, don't take it serious | ||
mahnini
United States6862 Posts
so basically this election will be like deciding which testicle you want amputated. | ||
Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
On September 27 2008 12:05 mahnini wrote: I wouldn't say its that hard of a choice. Senator John McCain has voted with President Bush 100% of the time in 2008 and 95% of the time in 2007. Fact.obama got owned on the economy part, i couldnt really hear during the second half of the foreign policy part but im pretty sure mccain got owned so basically this election will be like deciding which testicle you want amputated. 1: Do the same thing we've been doing for 8 years. or 2: Try this new dude. Anything but the same =/ | ||
mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On September 27 2008 12:06 Orome wrote: Another thing and I'd appreciate it if an American could clear me up on this, Mc Cain was more pro Iraq war than I'd expected. With the approval rating for the Iraq war and Bush incredibly low, was that a smart thing for Mc Cain to do? i'm pretty sure he has a nice history of supporting the war so it's not like he can outright lie now or else obama would jump on that. | ||
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