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XoXiDe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States620 Posts
September 27 2008 02:50 GMT
#1421
obama should've mentioned what some of the earmarks he has requested are, earmarks aren't just waste, they are money for some good decent programs that help a lot of communities, many, however, are unfortunately just a waste of money that make the rest look bad.
TEXAN
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
September 27 2008 02:52 GMT
#1422
On September 27 2008 11:39 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2008 11:38 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
They give an invite to this guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Faurisson
-.-


Maybe he's a nut, but it is irrelevant to the point about McCain(and most of the country) creating the impression that he wants to exterminate the jews....

The holocaust comparison is absolutely absurd. They're using guilt as a tactic every time they mention it, but current Israeli jews are not the fucking same as most other jews. The anti-zionist sentiment is valid. Even Ben Gurion agreed with that.


Actually i also think that Israel creation was one of the biggest "robbery" of the last century. We didnt give their own country to Roma people for example but they were also killed by nazis. But i think that you can't repair an injustice with another.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
September 27 2008 02:53 GMT
#1423
My thoughts:

Mc Cain held his ground in economy from a purely debative point of view, focusing more on Obama's inconsistencies in his message and his voting and managing to coat the fact that his plan to heal the economy didn't contain much more than the plans to cut taxes and spending.

Seeing as people were generally expecting Obama to get the better out of a debate on economy, I guess that can be counted as a win for Mc Cain.

On the other hand, Obama really held his own in foreign relations. Whereas in the economy debate, Mc Cain's strategy of attacking Obama rather than outlining his own ideas worked well enough for a tie that means a win for him, in foreign relations, the pinnacle of Mc Cain's knowledge and experience, it seemed a bit meagre to me. He seemed neither more knowledgeable (even though he certainly stressed the point that he's seen something of the world) nor did he get his points across more clearly than Obama, he actually started rambling relatively randomly on one or two of the questions.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
September 27 2008 02:54 GMT
#1424
Ok, so what was the single most memorable line of the debate?

My vote:

"I have a bracelet too."
--Obama
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
September 27 2008 02:56 GMT
#1425
On September 27 2008 11:54 Savio wrote:
Ok, so what was the single most memorable line of the debate?

My vote:

"I have a bracelet too."
--Obama


hahaha I would agree with that.

number two would be AHMANJNJJJEHAD
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-27 02:58:20
September 27 2008 02:56 GMT
#1426
On September 27 2008 11:54 Savio wrote:
Ok, so what was the single most memorable line of the debate?

My vote:

"I have a bracelet too."
--Obama

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there Savio(which means wise in Spanish). It will have to be an "orgy of spending".

Fuck, I had a hard time writing down the name Alljalamejad, while at the same time paying attention to what they were saying and catching up in what I missed with subtitles.
Obama singing "Kick Ass" Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghFBt-fXmw&feature=player_embedde
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
September 27 2008 02:57 GMT
#1427
On September 27 2008 11:53 Orome wrote:
My thoughts:

Mc Cain held his ground in economy from a purely debative point of view, focusing more on Obama's inconsistencies in his message and his voting and managing to coat the fact that his plan to heal the economy didn't contain much more than the plans to cut taxes and spending.

Seeing as people were generally expecting Obama to get the better out of a debate on economy, I guess that can be counted as a win for Mc Cain.

On the other hand, Obama really held his own in foreign relations. Whereas in the economy debate, Mc Cain's strategy of attacking Obama rather than outlining his own ideas worked well enough for a tie that means a win for him, in foreign relations, the pinnacle of Mc Cain's knowledge and experience, it seemed a bit meagre to me. He seemed neither more knowledgeable (even though he certainly stressed the point that he's seen something of the world) nor did he get his points across more clearly than Obama, he actually started rambling relatively randomly on one or two of the questions.


I agree with this. McCain did well during the economy portion sticking to spending issues and Obama record on them.

But Obama did well in emphasizing Afghanistan. McCain did ramble sometimes about things long past and not necessarily relevant.

Seemed pretty dang close to a brawl.

On a side note: Aren't American debates a little boring and too reserved. I love watching the British just go at it and throw junk at eachother.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-27 03:00:39
September 27 2008 02:57 GMT
#1428
On September 27 2008 11:42 shmay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2008 09:56 Jibba wrote:
The fastest growing economies over the last twenty years, the asian tigers, have done so with protectionist policies


? The economies most open to foreign trade are Hong Kong and Singapore.

The WSJ/Heritage measures are flawed, and the government still controls all property in Hong Kong. It has certainly done exceptionally well, but it's also been a major beneficiary of the West. Those two countries also probably have the two best trade locations in the world.

Government intervention is actually responsible for a lot of the growth in Singapore and it's surpising that it's remained so transparent. They're capitalist but it's not a free market and the competitive advantage is really due to the massive poverty gap in the country, not the advantage of the product itself. Instead of getting exploited for a natural resource, they're letting their workers get exploited. It's going to lead to problems down the road.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 27 2008 02:57 GMT
#1429
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SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
September 27 2008 02:58 GMT
#1430
On September 27 2008 11:56 thoraxe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2008 11:54 Savio wrote:
Ok, so what was the single most memorable line of the debate?

My vote:

"I have a bracelet too."
--Obama

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there Savio(which means wise in Spanish). It will have to be an "orgy of spending".


Actually, "Sabio" means wise in Spanish. Savio is the latin version of the word.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
September 27 2008 03:00 GMT
#1431
Ok, thats it...for the time being, I am putting Obama's quote in that area under my posts.

"I have a bracelet too."
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 27 2008 03:02 GMT
#1432
"Ahkmededemijad.... Ahkmedimijaad"

:|
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 27 2008 03:03 GMT
#1433
TBH, I really can't think clearly about who won. I have a cold and ooze is seeping out of my brain and my roomate is too fucking loudasdfasdfasdf. I know it's more difficult to whisper with tones, but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
September 27 2008 03:03 GMT
#1434
Wow, McCain didn't fuck up. That MUST mean he's the right choice. Hell, it might a repeat of the last 8 years, but at least he's not quite as stupid as Bush.

*CHEERS*
MC Fighting!~
thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
September 27 2008 03:04 GMT
#1435
On September 27 2008 11:58 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2008 11:56 thoraxe wrote:
On September 27 2008 11:54 Savio wrote:
Ok, so what was the single most memorable line of the debate?

My vote:

"I have a bracelet too."
--Obama

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there Savio(which means wise in Spanish). It will have to be an "orgy of spending".


Actually, "Sabio" means wise in Spanish. Savio is the latin version of the word.

it means practically the same thing. Spanish, Latin, what difference does it make, Spanish copied Latin. + Show Spoiler +
sarcasm, don't take it serious

Obama singing "Kick Ass" Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghFBt-fXmw&feature=player_embedde
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
September 27 2008 03:05 GMT
#1436
obama got owned on the economy part, i couldnt really hear during the second half of the foreign policy part but im pretty sure mccain got owned

so basically this election will be like deciding which testicle you want amputated.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
September 27 2008 03:06 GMT
#1437
Another thing and I'd appreciate it if an American could clear me up on this, Mc Cain was more pro Iraq war than I'd expected. With the approval rating for the Iraq war and Bush incredibly low, was that a smart thing for Mc Cain to do?
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
September 27 2008 03:08 GMT
#1438
Probably only smart so that he can stick to what he said earlier and not be a flip flopper.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-27 03:09:59
September 27 2008 03:08 GMT
#1439
On September 27 2008 12:05 mahnini wrote:
obama got owned on the economy part, i couldnt really hear during the second half of the foreign policy part but im pretty sure mccain got owned

so basically this election will be like deciding which testicle you want amputated.
I wouldn't say its that hard of a choice. Senator John McCain has voted with President Bush 100% of the time in 2008 and 95% of the time in 2007. Fact.


1: Do the same thing we've been doing for 8 years.

or

2: Try this new dude.


Anything but the same =/


MC Fighting!~
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
September 27 2008 03:09 GMT
#1440
On September 27 2008 12:06 Orome wrote:
Another thing and I'd appreciate it if an American could clear me up on this, Mc Cain was more pro Iraq war than I'd expected. With the approval rating for the Iraq war and Bush incredibly low, was that a smart thing for Mc Cain to do?

i'm pretty sure he has a nice history of supporting the war so it's not like he can outright lie now or else obama would jump on that.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
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