EPT2008 US Presidential Election - Page 74
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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tiffany
3664 Posts
how is it even still a contest. this is stupid | ||
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capek
United States585 Posts
On September 27 2008 15:07 tiffany wrote: i don't think palin answered a single question in the couric interview. you could really tell katie couric was suffering. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc how is it even still a contest. this is stupid That still doesn't trump Bush Doctrine. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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Phantom
Canada2151 Posts
On September 27 2008 11:37 cava wrote: Poll: Who won the first presidential debate? (Vote): Obama (Vote): McCain What if you thought both did well and neither pulled out any hard hitting blows? It was like they just put up on the table what they've been telling everyone except each other this entire time...you just saw how they reacted to each other... | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Piss on that. ;p | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
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Flaccid
8927 Posts
Both held their own and did a good job presenting their case. Looking forward to the rest =] | ||
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Flaccid
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
On September 27 2008 15:02 MYM.Testie wrote: All the polls say Obama won, quite handily too. You mean nonscientific self selected internet polls? If that's the case Ron Paul wins the internet and will be our next president. There hasn't been time for a real poll to be released yet. | ||
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
On September 27 2008 16:52 NovaTheFeared wrote: You mean nonscientific self selected internet polls? If that's the case Ron Paul wins the internet and will be our next president. There hasn't been time for a real poll to be released yet. he wasn't referring to internet polls, there was a CNN poll and another poll (by CBS or MSNBC or someone like that) The poll consisted of interviews with 524 adult Americans who watched the debate conducted by telephone on September 26. All interviews were conducted after the end of the debate http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/poll-both-men-beat-expectations-but-obama-had-the-edge/?eref=politicalflipper | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
Happy to see that the Americans think differently though  I don't however understand how Mccain can argue for a spending freeze and tax cuts at the same time :S Makes sense much? =p Besides I thought the standard recipie for dealing with ecconomic reccesion was increased taxes and increased governemental investments? While Obamas policies seem to favour that approach when pressured he was all like "No no no I want to cut spending too!" Just stick to what you belive and explain why instead? =p | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
On September 27 2008 19:43 KlaCkoN wrote: I fell asleep before it was over but to me it seemed like both of them were actually ... extremely .. bad at debating. With Maccain beeing less bad. Happy to see that the Americans think differently though I don't however understand how Mccain can argue for a spending freeze and tax cuts at the same time :S Makes sense much? =p Besides I thought the standard recipie for dealing with ecconomic reccesion was increased taxes and increased governemental investments? While Obamas policies seem to favour that approach when pressured he was all like "No no no I want to cut spending too!" Just stick to what you belive and explain why instead? =p He can do both. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On September 27 2008 19:43 KlaCkoN wrote: Besides I thought the standard recipie for dealing with ecconomic reccesion was increased taxes and increased governemental investments? that's.. interesting.. | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
Notice the "thought" but that's more or less what we did when we had our huge crisis in the 90s and it worked out. Plus the way the US got out of the great depression was through increased governmental spending. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On September 27 2008 19:43 KlaCkoN wrote: I fell asleep before it was over but to me it seemed like both of them were actually ... extremely .. bad at debating. With Maccain beeing less bad. Happy to see that the Americans think differently though I don't however understand how Mccain can argue for a spending freeze and tax cuts at the same time :S Makes sense much? =p Besides I thought the standard recipie for dealing with ecconomic reccesion was increased taxes and increased governemental investments? While Obamas policies seem to favour that approach when pressured he was all like "No no no I want to cut spending too!" Just stick to what you belive and explain why instead? =p I'm not sure how politically feasible it would've been but I was hoping for Obama to say something like that. McCain's tax plan significantly reduces government revenue while Obama's increases it. It's easier for Obama to pay for things than McCain. In terms of public opinion and styles, I don't think it's possible for McCain to be a friendly candidate. If this keeps going by debate #3, his jabs are going to be working against him because the public will just see him as an angry old man. The Nixon vs. Kennedy comparisons may be more relevant than ever, at least in terms of the debates. | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
For example, the Iraq war. No one mentioned that it's just an immoral war, an illegal war. McCain kep t on rambling that if they leave they 'lose' and then everyone died for nothing. Honour, bla bla. Makes no sense to me. So this war is being fought for honor? If you leave you respect the will of the Iraqi people. How is this a 'defeat'? What is there to win? What's so good about winning a bad war? About being the bad guy but at least not being defeated. I mean, 'losing' this war is more honourable then winning it. And yeah, those people already all died for nothing. You should have thought about that beforehand. Having even more people die doesn't change that. And if the US citizens suddenly start to spit at the soldiers when politicians finally get some sense and pull them out of the immoral disaster they were in, well maybe the politicians should educate the people a bit more. Take blame on themselves. Not to mention they both failed to inform the voter that a democratic Iraq is one with more influence from Iran which at this point is the no.1 war aim, it seems. Basically the war aim is to keep Iraq undemocratic. But no one asks questions. But at least this time the moderator tried the candidates to directly engage each other and have a less scripted debate. But basically both candidates tried to hammer certain lines over and over. Lines they figured out are going to get a positive responce from their potential voters. And they just repeated those over and over instead of answering questions or engaging in debate. | ||
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