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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 02:24:25
July 15 2008 23:54 GMT
#1
After a previous tournament sucessfully run by Artanis, I really wanted another tournament to be hosted. Seems like he is busy so why not just couple of TL'ers play for fun and even arrange a casual tournament?

You can find instructions and everything from OP of this thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71979

I'm thinking of a standard tournament with the block that's the most popular.

The time will be
July 27th Sunday
1:00 PM Pacific
4:00 PM Eastern

We can always change time to fit the most comfortable schedule for everyone to play

Tournament rules
1. Cheating in any way is not allowed.
2. Any cards that is not in the chosen standard is banned. If cards appeared in previous sets, they are allowed. Also, all 'power 9' cards are banned. These are: Black Lotus, Mox Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald/Jet/Pearl, Timetwister, Time Walk, and Ancestral Recall. For the rest, the T1 banned/restricted list as seen here is applied.
3. The server that will be used to play is 'mwsgames.net'.
4. All participants will be randomly attached to another opponent. If there is an uneven amount of players, byes will be given.
5. Signing up will be handled by PMing me. Posting in this thread will not qualify as signing up. You can not sign up until the official date is released.
6. The decklist of your deck, including sideboard, must be added in the PM in which you sign up. Editing your deck after this is not allowed.

Vote on the block you want to play standard. The block will also consist of the expansion sets from that block.
[Updated]
Time Spiral and Odyssey tied and with negative posts about Time spiral.
We'll play with cards from the Odyssey block which consists of:
Odyssey
Torment
Judgment

It'll be 60 card deck with 15 sideboards.

Remember PM me to sign up, posting in this thread really won't be considere signing up.

Again suggestions and other helpful advices are welcome
I can always change and adjust to what the majority is comfortable with.
All decklists are to be sent to me by Saturday July 26th

Current people signed up.

1. SiZ.FaNtAsY
2. FragKrag
3. Artanis[Xp]
4. Meta
5. Krohm
6. Caller
7. semioldguy
8. T-P-S
Karma is a bitch
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-16 01:26:07
July 16 2008 01:25 GMT
#2
Why isn't there a Lorwyn+Shadowmoor option?
Edit: Also, it's not standard if you're going with 1 block, it's block
O_o
Gaetele
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Esper760 Posts
July 16 2008 01:51 GMT
#3
Oh God!

Not Time Spiral.

No need for Ancestral Vision, Tarmogoyf, Garruk Wildspeaker, oh god -_-
aka Ghostclaws
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
July 16 2008 02:50 GMT
#4
Isn't standard 2 sets? So would it be Ravnica + Time Spiral or the other?
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 16 2008 03:00 GMT
#5
Well we had a discussion in the previous thread and we decided to just use 1 block + its 2 expansion sets.
Karma is a bitch
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
July 16 2008 13:46 GMT
#6
How long are you going to let the poll run.
Not bad for a cat toy.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
July 16 2008 14:20 GMT
#7
Until it reaches a block that isn't Time Spiral
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 16 2008 14:23 GMT
#8
Standard means 2 blocks + the core set Also known as Type 2. Block constructed = 1 block. But where's the lorwyn + shadowmoor block?
O_o
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 00:56:18
July 17 2008 00:45 GMT
#9
Why not just use standard T2?


ps- weird mws is working on a new server or something now, gotta switch the server on the pulldown menu when you call.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 17 2008 01:04 GMT
#10
suspend creatures have haste?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 17 2008 01:16 GMT
#11
Yes suspended creatures have haste.
Karma is a bitch
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 17 2008 13:10 GMT
#12
When they get out of suspend yes
O_o
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
July 17 2008 13:57 GMT
#13
MTG Question again.

Sliver Decks...

If you have say 2 or 3 Gemhide Slivers out, when you tap another sliver for mana. Does it just give 1 of any colour, or 2/3, if you have more than 1 out.

This also applies to every other "Tap: Sliver ****" ability.
Not bad for a cat toy.
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
July 17 2008 15:29 GMT
#14
I don't know the test, but I assume it says "Slivers gain TAP: Add 1 mana" In which case your sliver has 3 instances of it. You get to choose which one to use! But you still get one mana only.
kirtar111
Profile Joined May 2007
United States72 Posts
July 17 2008 15:35 GMT
#15
this time i should actually be able to play as i don't have any commitments that might coincide with the tournament date.
Jogoling
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 17 2008 18:06 GMT
#16
On July 17 2008 22:57 Krohm wrote:
MTG Question again.

Sliver Decks...

If you have say 2 or 3 Gemhide Slivers out, when you tap another sliver for mana. Does it just give 1 of any colour, or 2/3, if you have more than 1 out.

This also applies to every other "Tap: Sliver ****" ability.


Your sliver will look like this:

T: Add one mana to your manapool
T: Add one mana to your manapool
T: Add one mana to your manapool

So you only get to use it once and it will make no difference.
Anyone up for some games? Like right now? I play mostly legacy though.
O_o
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 19:22:05
July 17 2008 18:16 GMT
#17
On July 18 2008 03:06 Stegosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2008 22:57 Krohm wrote:
MTG Question again.

Sliver Decks...

If you have say 2 or 3 Gemhide Slivers out, when you tap another sliver for mana. Does it just give 1 of any colour, or 2/3, if you have more than 1 out.

This also applies to every other "Tap: Sliver ****" ability.


Your sliver will look like this:

T: Add one mana to your manapool
T: Add one mana to your manapool
T: Add one mana to your manapool

So you only get to use it once and it will make no difference.
Anyone up for some games? Like right now? I play mostly legacy though.

I'll play you I guess. PM me.

Does equipment die when the creature it's attached to dies?
Not bad for a cat toy.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 17 2008 19:34 GMT
#18
No, the equipment does not die.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
July 17 2008 19:44 GMT
#19
Another question about slivers, does the flanking stack? If I have more than 1 sidewinder out.
Not bad for a cat toy.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 21:38:58
July 17 2008 19:51 GMT
#20
No, flanking does not add up, it is only -1/-1, and then it is done.

^Don't listen to this guy (me), he answers questions based on no concrete evidence.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 17 2008 20:19 GMT
#21
Anybody want to game?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 17 2008 21:18 GMT
#22
It does stack. You get 2 instances of flanking, which both do the same, so the creature gets -1/-1 twice
O_o
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
July 17 2008 21:38 GMT
#23
On July 18 2008 06:18 Stegosaur wrote:
It does stack. You get 2 instances of flanking, which both do the same, so the creature gets -1/-1 twice

Holy shit, you are right. Sorry about that.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 23:00:59
July 17 2008 22:58 GMT
#24
Voted Timespiral (cause its T2), will take tempest because thats the last set I played in when I was serious about magic and did pretty well in Arena and DCI stuff.

btw is there a way to look up old rankings and shit from magic?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 18 2008 00:45 GMT
#25
Just in case Odyssey wins, Sonic Seizure or Blazing Salvo? Both do 3 damage, are instants, and cost R, but Blazing only targets creatures and can be countered by paying 5 life, while Sonic Seizure targets both creatures and requires you to discard a card at random.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-18 00:52:37
July 18 2008 00:52 GMT
#26
Playtest with 2 of each, whichever one seems worse, replace with 2 of the other. At least, that is what I would do.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 18 2008 01:03 GMT
#27
I'd be interested in playing with Oddysey, not so much with Time Spiral. Not familiar with that set at all , though I'd prefer Onslaught above all, it did not seem a realistic option.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 18 2008 04:09 GMT
#28
i hate time spiral so much

actually all new cards should burn

except staff of domination
i need that for elf abuse
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-18 04:11:28
July 18 2008 04:11 GMT
#29
FUCK G/U ELVESSSSs
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 19 2008 03:01 GMT
#30
anyone wanna play right now?
Karma is a bitch
Sean.G
Profile Joined October 2004
Spain889 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-19 03:31:41
July 19 2008 03:30 GMT
#31
Is it possible to play draft tournaments with this software?

Draft tournaments are by far the most fun imo.

For those of you not familiar with this, you sit around a table with the other players with a bunch of booster packs. Everyone opens one package each, picks a card, passes it to the one sitting next to him/her. When no cards are left, the process is repeated (can't remember exactly how many packs are required to make a deck).

When it comes to land you get that separately (as many as you need) for "free".

After this is done, the players obviously play against each other with their made decks standard tournament style.

I love this because you have to show a lot of skill being able to choose the best cards for your deck etc. with a limited choice of cards. And its always fun to open boosters

"He is fighting in this match like we've never seen a terran player fight before. He is fighting as hard as Orlando Bloom fights for the affections of Keira Knightly in Pirates of the Caribbean 3, and hopefully he'll have more success" - Klazart
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 19 2008 03:37 GMT
#32
On July 19 2008 12:30 Sean.G wrote:
Is it possible to play draft tournaments with this software?

Draft tournaments are by far the most fun imo.

For those of you not familiar with this, you sit around a table with the other players with a bunch of booster packs. Everyone opens one package each, picks a card, passes it to the one sitting next to him/her. When no cards are left, the process is repeated (can't remember exactly how many packs are required to make a deck).

When it comes to land you get that separately (as many as you need) for "free".

After this is done, the players obviously play against each other with their made decks standard tournament style.

I love this because you have to show a lot of skill being able to choose the best cards for your deck etc. with a limited choice of cards. And its always fun to open boosters




Problem is the program can't >_<
Karma is a bitch
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
July 19 2008 05:09 GMT
#33
On July 19 2008 12:30 Sean.G wrote:
Is it possible to play draft tournaments with this software?

Draft tournaments are by far the most fun imo.

For those of you not familiar with this, you sit around a table with the other players with a bunch of booster packs. Everyone opens one package each, picks a card, passes it to the one sitting next to him/her. When no cards are left, the process is repeated (can't remember exactly how many packs are required to make a deck).

When it comes to land you get that separately (as many as you need) for "free".

After this is done, the players obviously play against each other with their made decks standard tournament style.

I love this because you have to show a lot of skill being able to choose the best cards for your deck etc. with a limited choice of cards. And its always fun to open boosters



That does sound like a lot of fun. I'd like to play but I've never really played online and I only have limited experience playing around with my friends with our decks. I only got into it because my $20 borders gift card allowed me to buy a deck. I could've gotten a book or something but after my friend let me use of of his decks it was a pretty fun game. I don't want to have to spend tons of time making a deck online from scratch to be competitive though. (I barely know the rules...)
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 19 2008 07:17 GMT
#34
For me, playing is meh. Fun and entertaining, but there are better things. Building a deck however, is more of a showcase of your style, and takes more thinking. I usually end up playing aggro though.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
July 19 2008 07:19 GMT
#35
Hmmm

I haven't played MTG in over a year or two.... I guess this means I should go dl MWS and take a look at the Standard metagame..... New sets are always interesting....


I'd be interested in doing some online drafts... or something... been a while.
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
July 20 2008 05:34 GMT
#36
You can draft online if you use Netdraft, unless that program died.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 21 2008 04:31 GMT
#37
Updated.

We'll use the odyssey block.
Karma is a bitch
Siefu
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia205 Posts
July 21 2008 10:08 GMT
#38
So who's in? Are you gonna make a list of players?
He walks among us, but he is not one of us.
Angel[BTL]
Profile Joined February 2003
Romania345 Posts
July 21 2008 14:15 GMT
#39
Does MTG has an option to view like an observer mode why you guys are playing?
Success is going from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 21 2008 15:43 GMT
#40
i guess odyssey is ok
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 21 2008 22:41 GMT
#41
I would only play one of these if it was standard T2. I don't know why you guys want to play this wierd block stuff.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 21 2008 22:53 GMT
#42
yessss odyssey
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 21 2008 23:12 GMT
#43
On July 22 2008 07:41 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I would only play one of these if it was standard T2. I don't know why you guys want to play this wierd block stuff.


This, or Legacy (preferably legacy). Second tourney that (imo) got raped by weird rules =(
O_o
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 22 2008 01:05 GMT
#44
Please PM me if you're gonna be participating.
Karma is a bitch
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 22 2008 01:06 GMT
#45
On July 22 2008 07:41 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I would only play one of these if it was standard T2. I don't know why you guys want to play this wierd block stuff.


I'm trying to avoid standard T2 atm because of the fairy domination.
Sick of playing against fairies all the time.
Karma is a bitch
Improbable
Profile Joined March 2003
United States54 Posts
July 22 2008 01:58 GMT
#46
anyone here play the tournament scene? I live in the northeast and recently got first place at the hartford connecticut regionals playing, you guessed it, faeries . However, the meta at the tournament was actually pretty damn diverse, elf-rock being the most popular after winning pro-tour Hollywood followed by probably rev-combo and then faeries. There were only 2 fae in the top 8, and of course we got paired for the mirror match to qualify for nationals ^^. However I only played 2 mirrors on the day, not at all bad.

I've also been having alot of fun playing lorwyn block constructed. Went down to the boston PTQ this past weekend and went 5-3 playing rainbow elementals. 4-0 against faeries and lost to kithkin and the mirror. I was hoping kithkin would be out of style after having such poor results top 8 and blue envelope-wise the last month or so, so I didn't maindeck firespouts. However, they are the cheapest deck to build so they made up about 30% of the meta with faeries and 5c control variants both around 20%. Faeries are damn good, but they are far from the only meta-choice. There was 1 guy playing merfolk at the boston ptq and he top 8'd. Never quite seen why more people dont play the fish . Maybe eventide will spice things up alittle, though i doubt it'le dethrown the fae. Anyway, gl with the tournament, I don't know enough about the older formats to make it much fun, but I'd love to play in one if you host t2, lor block or even the current extended rotation.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-22 02:26:16
July 22 2008 02:21 GMT
#47
I'm totally in. Madness or Tog.. hmmmmm


edit:
I'M SO STOKED FOR THIS

don't change the format pleeeassse it's so awesome
good vibes only
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 22 2008 02:38 GMT
#48
On July 22 2008 10:06 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2008 07:41 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I would only play one of these if it was standard T2. I don't know why you guys want to play this wierd block stuff.


I'm trying to avoid standard T2 atm because of the fairy domination.
Sick of playing against fairies all the time.

I run a goblin deck in T2 and the faerie, merfolk, or kithkin decks are not imba to me.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 22 2008 03:00 GMT
#49
On July 22 2008 11:38 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2008 10:06 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
On July 22 2008 07:41 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I would only play one of these if it was standard T2. I don't know why you guys want to play this wierd block stuff.


I'm trying to avoid standard T2 atm because of the fairy domination.
Sick of playing against fairies all the time.

I run a goblin deck in T2 and the faerie, merfolk, or kithkin decks are not imba to me.


Goblin in T2?
Woah, I thought goblins really sucked in the standard right now >_<
Karma is a bitch
Improbable
Profile Joined March 2003
United States54 Posts
July 22 2008 03:17 GMT
#50
goblins are solid tier 2, theyve got game against everything, though not quite as much power as the top tier lists (not quite enough consistancy for big tournament finishes). There is also a psuedo-goblin token deck running bitterblossom, war mashals, marsh flitters, gargeddon and the like with furystoke giant as a finisher that saw some regionals bids (the most recent major t2 events). It's a pretty sweet metagame right now, i think .
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-22 06:16:08
July 22 2008 06:10 GMT
#51
My friend and I both made goblin decks, he made a black red with blossoms and such. Its pretty damn good.

My deck is pretty good too (strictly red, but has green/red creatures with boartusk liege) just because of the speed of it.

I'll play something like tattermunge first turn, Vexing Shusher second, Boggart Ram Gang 3rd (for a total of 7 damage not even counting the 2+4 from previous turns), and Boartusk 4th. (giving them all +2/+2) and of course I have lots of Direct Damage and shit like Siege Gang Commanders.

I play it on MWS a lot and I win the majority of my games (probably like 70-80%).

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
July 22 2008 08:58 GMT
#52
I'd like to ask, if I download the program what you use,
can I build decks from any card or I have to pay for it ..

If it is free, I will play maybe.
I played another type of trading card game for a long time.
And all is illuminated.
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
July 22 2008 11:23 GMT
#53
Can't you just use the deck code instead of the decklist? It would seem kind of unfair for someone to have all of the decklists.
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 22 2008 12:52 GMT
#54
Rogues are a pretty fun t2 deck, mainly because it's such a hit or miss deck =) Either you win in 3 turns or you get completely raped, but if you do win, your opponent looked like a retard swinging his arms around wildly, trying to avoid all the 3/1 5/3 prowlers.

Hasn't cloudthresher turned out to be a nice fairy hoser? And hasn't mirrorweave and mutavault turned out to be the saving grace of kithkin decks? I hardly play T2 so I don't really have extended knowledge of the current metagame, but last I heard kithkin decks dominated because of stuff like mutaweaving and mirrorweave on thistledown liege.
How do you guys think eventide will change T2? I see alot of cool merfolks (wake thrasher, the counterspell merfolk).
O_o
Gaetele
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Esper760 Posts
July 22 2008 13:00 GMT
#55
Odyssey block...

I'm in, I'll see what I can do.
aka Ghostclaws
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 22 2008 13:01 GMT
#56
Anyone want to test their deck? PM me.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
July 22 2008 21:24 GMT
#57
I'm down for a deck test whenever- Hit me up on aim at Metashdw. I'll prolly be gone tonight but pretty much any time this week I'd be down. =]
good vibes only
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 22 2008 22:02 GMT
#58
On July 22 2008 21:52 Stegosaur wrote:
Rogues are a pretty fun t2 deck, mainly because it's such a hit or miss deck =) Either you win in 3 turns or you get completely raped, but if you do win, your opponent looked like a retard swinging his arms around wildly, trying to avoid all the 3/1 5/3 prowlers.

Hasn't cloudthresher turned out to be a nice fairy hoser? And hasn't mirrorweave and mutavault turned out to be the saving grace of kithkin decks? I hardly play T2 so I don't really have extended knowledge of the current metagame, but last I heard kithkin decks dominated because of stuff like mutaweaving and mirrorweave on thistledown liege.
How do you guys think eventide will change T2? I see alot of cool merfolks (wake thrasher, the counterspell merfolk).



There is lots of Black/white shit that is really good, I predict seeing a bunch of those decks.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 23 2008 00:45 GMT
#59
On July 23 2008 07:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2008 21:52 Stegosaur wrote:
Rogues are a pretty fun t2 deck, mainly because it's such a hit or miss deck =) Either you win in 3 turns or you get completely raped, but if you do win, your opponent looked like a retard swinging his arms around wildly, trying to avoid all the 3/1 5/3 prowlers.

Hasn't cloudthresher turned out to be a nice fairy hoser? And hasn't mirrorweave and mutavault turned out to be the saving grace of kithkin decks? I hardly play T2 so I don't really have extended knowledge of the current metagame, but last I heard kithkin decks dominated because of stuff like mutaweaving and mirrorweave on thistledown liege.
How do you guys think eventide will change T2? I see alot of cool merfolks (wake thrasher, the counterspell merfolk).



There is lots of Black/white shit that is really good, I predict seeing a bunch of those decks.


I haven't seen musch good cards from eventide that's black/white

Unmake - Good removal I guess, but not really godo
Divinity of pride - Pretty much a better exalted angel

And that's really it
Karma is a bitch
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
July 23 2008 11:53 GMT
#60
Shouldn't the first post be 5:00AM KST?
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 23 2008 11:58 GMT
#61
Divinity of pride seems like a fake treshold guy, pretty cool imo =) I like nip gwyllion, evershrike, edge of the divinity so yeah I think there's some pretty cool b/w stuff out there.
O_o
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
July 23 2008 18:34 GMT
#62
Sign me up in the tournament, I'll need a day to make up a good deck though. Will PM you list later.
Not bad for a cat toy.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 23 2008 19:32 GMT
#63
I think U/G Madness will dominate ;;
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 23 2008 20:14 GMT
#64
Basking rootwalla
Arrogant wurm
Wild mongrel

hmmmmmm oddysey block
O_o
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 23 2008 22:05 GMT
#65
On July 23 2008 09:45 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2008 07:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On July 22 2008 21:52 Stegosaur wrote:
Rogues are a pretty fun t2 deck, mainly because it's such a hit or miss deck =) Either you win in 3 turns or you get completely raped, but if you do win, your opponent looked like a retard swinging his arms around wildly, trying to avoid all the 3/1 5/3 prowlers.

Hasn't cloudthresher turned out to be a nice fairy hoser? And hasn't mirrorweave and mutavault turned out to be the saving grace of kithkin decks? I hardly play T2 so I don't really have extended knowledge of the current metagame, but last I heard kithkin decks dominated because of stuff like mutaweaving and mirrorweave on thistledown liege.
How do you guys think eventide will change T2? I see alot of cool merfolks (wake thrasher, the counterspell merfolk).



There is lots of Black/white shit that is really good, I predict seeing a bunch of those decks.


I haven't seen musch good cards from eventide that's black/white

Unmake - Good removal I guess, but not really godo
Divinity of pride - Pretty much a better exalted angel

And that's really it


The liege is fucking amazing, not to mention the unholy strength/holy strength enchanment that costs 1?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 23 2008 22:09 GMT
#66
Ah, for those that awnt to playtest, leaving IM programmes might be handier.
MSN: Lex at Pwcons dot com
AIM: ArtanisXp1
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 23 2008 22:35 GMT
#67
On July 16 2008 08:54 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
The time will be
July 27th Sunday
5:00 PM KST Teamliquid time
1:00 PM Pacific
4:00 PM Eastern


I believe 5pm, July 27 KST would be 2am July 27 Pacific
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 23 2008 22:40 GMT
#68
I'll download the software when I get home from work today and build a deck. I'd like to join and depending on what time this will actually be taking place I might be able to participate.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 24 2008 00:01 GMT
#69
Semioldguy, there is about 5 gigs of card pics to download separately as well as the program.

If you want those check one of my posts about magic in search.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-24 01:37:56
July 24 2008 01:36 GMT
#70
I thought KST was + 16 hours to Pacific. so 5pm would be 1AM. However, he probably meant to say 5:AM KST which would be 1:00 PM Pacific and 4:00 PM Eastern.

AIM: Scrtof.

EDIT: I don't think UG Madness even dominated when they were actually playing OBC.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 24 2008 01:47 GMT
#71
On July 24 2008 07:05 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2008 09:45 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
On July 23 2008 07:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On July 22 2008 21:52 Stegosaur wrote:
Rogues are a pretty fun t2 deck, mainly because it's such a hit or miss deck =) Either you win in 3 turns or you get completely raped, but if you do win, your opponent looked like a retard swinging his arms around wildly, trying to avoid all the 3/1 5/3 prowlers.

Hasn't cloudthresher turned out to be a nice fairy hoser? And hasn't mirrorweave and mutavault turned out to be the saving grace of kithkin decks? I hardly play T2 so I don't really have extended knowledge of the current metagame, but last I heard kithkin decks dominated because of stuff like mutaweaving and mirrorweave on thistledown liege.
How do you guys think eventide will change T2? I see alot of cool merfolks (wake thrasher, the counterspell merfolk).



There is lots of Black/white shit that is really good, I predict seeing a bunch of those decks.


I haven't seen musch good cards from eventide that's black/white

Unmake - Good removal I guess, but not really godo
Divinity of pride - Pretty much a better exalted angel

And that's really it



The liege is fucking amazing, not to mention the unholy strength/holy strength enchanment that costs 1?



The liege is not amazing.
No one would use it in standard. It's too slow.
Also the Edge of Divinity is useless as you need a bw creature.

The 1/1 for 1 with lifelink is possible but you lose card advantage.
Also Evershrike is also too slow for the dekc.
I don't see black/white bring anything to standard besides unmake which will be a staple.
Actually even Unmake is not THAT good, as it's 3 mana to remove 1 creature.
You don't gain card advantage and it's black which won't work against charmelleon collussus.
Karma is a bitch
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
July 24 2008 11:26 GMT
#72
On July 24 2008 10:36 terr13 wrote:
I thought KST was + 16 hours to Pacific. so 5pm would be 1AM. However, he probably meant to say 5:AM KST which would be 1:00 PM Pacific and 4:00 PM Eastern.

AIM: Scrtof.

EDIT: I don't think UG Madness even dominated when they were actually playing OBC.


It did, if you look at old decklists. I was trying to find a solid build of tog and found 75% UG madness decklists and a handful of tog, MBC, and other rogue stuff. Artanis has an awesome monogreen beats build that was pretty cool. Can't wait to see what everyone else makes.
good vibes only
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
July 24 2008 13:56 GMT
#73
I'm pretty much going with an main aggro / combo finisher. If I can pull it off, I will be laughing.
Not bad for a cat toy.
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 24 2008 18:16 GMT
#74
Unmake is great compared to other black removal, of course it fails compared to StP but then again, StP is the single best point removal card in magic.
Edge of the divinity isn't very good, but I really think you're underestimating evershrike. Even if you use stuff like Edge, you can discard him and get a 7/7 flying creature for 3 mana, that's not a bad deal at all. If you use shit like Rancor or that white enchantment that goes back into your hand after dying it could be pretty cool =) Not saying it's gonna be a tourneycard or anything, but then again, nothing in Eventide will be played in tourneys once it leaves Standard, except perhaps wake thrasher.
O_o
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
July 25 2008 17:06 GMT
#75
too bad we didn't get more players, only 6 of us haha
Not bad for a cat toy.
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 25 2008 17:11 GMT
#76
I'll likely be making it 7
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 25 2008 17:27 GMT
#77
I've already got three diffrent decks, haha.
A mono-G deck that I'll be most likely to play, and then there's a B/R deck that has a good MU vs Tog and a W/R deck that I just made which is supposed to be good against UG madness.
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
July 26 2008 05:24 GMT
#78
I have quite a few decks, UG, RG, BR, mono B, etc. but you guys are playing on 4pm EST on Sun, which is 4am on Mon for me, so it's impossible.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 26 2008 06:01 GMT
#79
MONOBLACK FTW

BLACK DEATH DESTRUCTION~
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Jank
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States308 Posts
July 26 2008 07:53 GMT
#80
Omg odyssey block? tog, u/g madness, wake, count me in, i'll whip up a deck and shoot you a pm
"You don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day." - Michael Parenti
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
July 26 2008 08:00 GMT
#81
if anybody wants to test right now hit me up on aim at metashdw
good vibes only
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 26 2008 18:42 GMT
#82
If anyone wants to test I'm up for that right now and for the next few hours

aim: the semioldguy
msn: semioldguy@hotmail.com
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
July 26 2008 20:16 GMT
#83
is this supposed to be starting like.. any time now?
good vibes only
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 26 2008 20:28 GMT
#84
No, the OP lists PM instead of AM, so it's supposed to be starting in a little less than 12 hours I believe. :/
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 26 2008 21:20 GMT
#85
I'm off for now, I'll be back tonight.

GGs Artanis, Meta and FragKrag!
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 26 2008 21:51 GMT
#86
It should be starting in 22 hours.
Karma is a bitch
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 00:48:56
July 26 2008 22:08 GMT
#87
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-26 22:28:03
July 26 2008 22:27 GMT
#88
On July 27 2008 06:51 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
It should be starting in 22 hours.

If this is true, then I'll be able to make it. If it's 17:00 KST I definitely won't be.
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
July 27 2008 12:25 GMT
#89
So seriously, what time is it starting?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 27 2008 13:31 GMT
#90
On July 27 2008 21:25 terr13 wrote:
So seriously, what time is it starting?

I guess in 6 and a half hours.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 27 2008 19:16 GMT
#91
I'm really sorry but due to extenuating circumstances i cannot compete today, which is a real bummer T_T

i'm sorry for the late notice but it just propped up <sigh>
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
T-P-S
Profile Joined June 2007
United States204 Posts
July 27 2008 19:42 GMT
#92
about 15 min to go?
~a hunnerd. Cash, check, whatever. I'll Mothership it.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 27 2008 19:44 GMT
#93
I would play if I didn't have to read all these old cards and put a deck together out of them.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
T-P-S
Profile Joined June 2007
United States204 Posts
July 27 2008 19:48 GMT
#94
Vote on a newer set for tourney 3, CharlieMurphy

Do we know the matchups yet?
~a hunnerd. Cash, check, whatever. I'll Mothership it.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 20:11:15
July 27 2008 20:00 GMT
#95
1. SiZ.FaNtAsY vs FragKrag
2. Artanis[Xp] vs Meta
3. Krohm Bye
4. semioldguy vs T-P-S

Best out of 3 we can start now. Go to channel!

Server MWSgames.net
Karma is a bitch
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 27 2008 20:05 GMT
#96
Oh and PM me the results!
Karma is a bitch
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 27 2008 20:07 GMT
#97
I'm hosting "TeamLiquid T-P-S"
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 27 2008 20:11 GMT
#98
Is anyone even here? besides semioldguy?
Karma is a bitch
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 27 2008 20:13 GMT
#99
most of them are logged into team liquid right now
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 27 2008 20:14 GMT
#100
Ugh, I thought this was next week ;_;
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 27 2008 20:14 GMT
#101
Are you comning fragkrag?
Karma is a bitch
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
July 27 2008 20:36 GMT
#102
God dammit, I'm sorry guys, I slept in. My alarm clock time is half an hour off for some weird ass reason.
Not bad for a cat toy.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 27 2008 20:37 GMT
#103
It's all good, you have a bye.
Hahah
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 20:39:46
July 27 2008 20:39 GMT
#104
So any results people?

Siz.Fantasy vs FragKrag 2-0
Karma is a bitch
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
July 27 2008 20:43 GMT
#105
I wanted to play my annoying deck so badly haha. Ah well.
Not bad for a cat toy.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 27 2008 20:47 GMT
#106
Sorry guys, I had a power surge. I'm here now if it counts.
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 27 2008 20:48 GMT
#107
semioldguy vs T-P-S 2-0
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 27 2008 20:48 GMT
#108
Where's meta?
Karma is a bitch
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 27 2008 20:49 GMT
#109
Alright then, it'll be

siz.fantasy vs artanis
Semioldguy vs krohm!

GOGOGOG
Karma is a bitch
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 20:50:46
July 27 2008 20:50 GMT
#110
meta is on AIM, but he's idle & not logged in to TL
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Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
July 27 2008 21:15 GMT
#111
Semioldguy 2-0 Krohm
Not bad for a cat toy.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 21:22:01
July 27 2008 21:20 GMT
#112
Siz.Fantasy 1-2 Artanis

Semioldguy vs Artanis
Finals!!!
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 27 2008 22:04 GMT
#113
Semioldguy won 3-0 in the finals, last match was pretty damn close. Will upload pics in a bit.
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 22:05:36
July 27 2008 22:05 GMT
#114
semioldguy 3-0 Artanis

(we agreed to do bo5 for finals)

ggs, game three was really good!
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 22:11:00
July 27 2008 22:06 GMT
#115
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My decklist:
// Lands
20 [OD] Forest (4)

// Creatures
4 [TO] Basking Rootwalla
3 [JU] Phantom Centaur
3 [TO] Arrogant Wurm
3 [OD] Wild Mongrel

// Spells
4 [OD] Catalyst Stone
3 [OD] Deep Reconnaissance
4 [OD] Call of the Herd
4 [JU] Living Wish
4 [OD] Beast Attack
4 [TO] Acorn Harvest
4 [OD] Roar of the Wurm

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [OD] Forest (4)
SB: 1 [JU] Phantom Centaur
SB: 1 [TO] Arrogant Wurm
SB: 1 [OD] Wild Mongrel
SB: 1 [OD] Spellbane Centaur
SB: 1 [JU] Brawn
SB: 1 [OD] Ivy Elemental
SB: 1 [TO] Nantuko Blightcutter
SB: 4 [JU] Nantuko Tracer
SB: 1 [OD] Centaur Garden
SB: 1 [OD] Werebear
SB: 1 [OD] Krosan Beast
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 27 2008 23:10 GMT
#116
Haha wow!
Congrats semioldguy!

I think this was a success? No?
6 out of 8 people isn't bad.

I'm thinking of running another one but Standard T2.
Karma is a bitch
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
July 27 2008 23:28 GMT
#117
I'd probably play another. A couple hours later in the day would be better for me though. (To start)
Not bad for a cat toy.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 28 2008 00:24 GMT
#118
On July 28 2008 08:28 Krohm wrote:
I'd probably play another. A couple hours later in the day would be better for me though. (To start)

Yeah you're probably right.
Karma is a bitch
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 28 2008 00:38 GMT
#119
closed by request
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 28 2008 06:26 GMT
#120
...making it so the winner can gloat unopposed! :p
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