EPTTSL RO16 Day 1, replays ?
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MJ
Poland85 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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b(O.o)p
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True_Spike
Poland3424 Posts
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
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MJ
Poland85 Posts
THE CROWD DEMANDS RELEASING | ||
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uppTagg
Sweden473 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:15 MJ wrote: its just taking fun away from us really ... as i said, when im watching rep im looking at what i find interesting and important right now, while in vods some guy shows me main base of one of gamers for absolutely no reason while there is huge drop going on for example ;o THE CROWD DEMANDS RELEASING are you fucking retarded? This tourney is so major cause of its huge prize money. And that only gets sponsorred if the sponsor actually gets attention, in vods and shit. Why would they let you have the ad-free vods? And who the fuck are you to demand anything. | ||
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:15 MJ wrote: its just taking fun away from us really ... as i said, when im watching rep im looking at what i find interesting and important right now, while in vods some guy shows me main base of one of gamers for absolutely no reason while there is huge drop going on for example ;o THE CROWD DEMANDS RELEASING 3 guys agrees with you and you call it the corwd? I think TL.net has a good reason for not releasing them and I guess it's because they want to show the sponsors and stuff. | ||
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b(O.o)p
699 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:25 uppTagg wrote: vods > replays imo! äh...and could you also explain why? i really hate it not to be able to watch a game like i want (i simply check out other things and at my pace)! 100% agree with spike.....you could release them after the tournament or post them on the razer website! | ||
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Rus_Brain
Russian Federation1893 Posts
$10k prize pool >>>>>>>>> one-time-released rep.pack | ||
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:30 Rus_Brain wrote: I think we should hide reps. Otherwise sponsors wont ever trust us again. $10k prize pool >>>>>>>>> one-time-released rep.pack Agreed, there are 10101101 other replays out there with these players, go watch them instead. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3424 Posts
VOD's and replays are hardly comparable in my opinion; someone not interested in them won't download them anyway. You could also put the replays on razer's website to get more hits or w/e. The entire tournament is called Razer TSL, the sponsor gets recognition every single time that name is mentioned. You could even go further and make players wear a RAZER tag for each game they play in TSL. | ||
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sfc_Athlon
Croatia6 Posts
can admin anwser please. is there any possbile way to negotiate with sponsor about release of replays? imperative to watch the vods shows us that community isnt on 1st place as tl.net crew used to say. | ||
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b(O.o)p
699 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:27 RaGe wrote: are you fucking retarded? This tourney is so major cause of its huge prize money. And that only gets sponsorred if the sponsor actually gets attention, in vods and shit. Why would they let you have the ad-free vods? And who the fuck are you to demand anything. and who the fuck are YOU exactly to jump on him like that??... he just made his point.... i would like to have an official explanation why this isn't possible..... as i wrote before, you could even make it like this...that you are only allowed to dl the replays on razer site after subscribing (and after the tournament is over of course)! i don't think that they would get more attention in any other way! but i don't know how the business runs, of course, but someone could explain it to me, if it's so impossible to release them! | ||
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Jusciax
Lithuania588 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:29 b(O.o)p wrote: äh...and could you also explain why? i really hate it not to be able to watch a game like i want (i simply check out other things and at my pace)! 100% agree with spike.....you could release them after the tournament or post them on the razer website! Because it's so much better to watch vod and enjoy the commentary without moving a finger. | ||
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b(O.o)p
699 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:34 Jusciax wrote: Because it's so much better to watch vod and enjoy the commentary without moving a finger. you if you are pleased with THEIR movement of the kamera and if you don't want to learn anything from that..than you are right! Hey, i watched every single stream yesterday and i will watch them today, too and i enjoyed it like hell, but this doesn't mean that i don't "need" or "want" the replays, too! to proper analyse the games and as i said watch them like i want! | ||
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MJ
Poland85 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:27 RaGe wrote: are you fucking retarded? This tourney is so major cause of its huge prize money. And that only gets sponsorred if the sponsor actually gets attention, in vods and shit. Why would they let you have the ad-free vods? And who the fuck are you to demand anything. yo silly kid, im at the stage for 9 years now, shut the fuck up, part about demanding is sarcastic but you are too stupid to see it, im just making my point of view, you dont agree just write it ONE MORE TIME YOU OFFEND ME IM GOING STRAIGHT TO BELGIUM ! (this part is sarcastic too, im letting you know in advance) | ||
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:33 b(O.o)p wrote: and who the fuck are YOU exactly to jump on him like that??... he just made his point.... i would like to have an official explanation why this isn't possible..... as i wrote before, you could even make it like this...that you are only allowed to dl the replays on razer site after subscribing (and after the tournament is over of course)! i don't think that they would get more attention in any other way! but i don't know how the business runs, of course, but someone could explain it to me, if it's so impossible to release them! You have no idea how much effort Hot Bid, Kennigit etc are putting in this. And if they actually refuse to release the reps, they have a reason for it. Namely a contract. So don't go all fucking ché guevara on the people that are working 8hours a day supplying you with great games. "THE CROWD DEMANDS RELEASING"? C'mon, that is the most disrespectful thing you can say. I have a feeling that you're more of a GG.Net person than a TL.net person. Also you're being disrespectful towards Razer, who have been very kind to have sponsorred this. Just so you dont have to miss that one storm drop, or so you can watch them on X2. Even OSL/MSL dont release reps of the starleagues that were 4 years ago. Don't demand things that are not gonna happen, it's only disrespectful | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27149 Posts
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b(O.o)p
699 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:41 RaGe wrote: You have no idea how much effort Hot Bid, Kennigit etc are putting in this. And if they actually refuse to release the reps, they have a reason for it. Namely a contract. So don't go all fucking ché guevara on the people that are working 8hours a day supplying you with great games. "THE CROWD DEMANDS RELEASING"? C'mon, that is the most disrespectful thing you can say. I have a feeling that you're more of a GG.Net person than a TL.net person. Also you're being disrespectful towards Razer, who have been very kind to have sponsorred this. Just so you dont have to miss that one storm drop, or so you can watch them on X2. Even OSL/MSL dont release reps of the starleagues that were 4 years ago. Don't demand things that are not gonna happen, it's only disrespectful lol....such a useless post really! i thanked the tl.net crew and razer for making this happen for about 100 times in every thread! what's the problem in asking about replays?? if they give me a proper explanation (like mani did in his post above), i'm satisfied and it's ok! but writing a long story how i don't appriciate their work and being disrespectful is just nonsense and has absolutely NOTHING to do with my request/question! and about "the crowd demands releasing!" - just chill, he just made a joke...he didn't want to insult anyone here, he overdid it a bid, now go on shoot him! | ||
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b(O.o)p
699 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:46 Manifesto7 wrote: Replays will not be released. It is part of our sponsorship deal. End of story. thx for the answer, that's what i wanted to hear! | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:46 Manifesto7 wrote: Replays will not be released. It is part of our sponsorship deal. End of story. Thank you. Thread closed please, and please add a line to one of the TSL faq's or something to prevent whining in future, | ||
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pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
On May 11 2008 21:18 Plexa wrote: you do know that RaGe is working on TSL right? he's one of our referees Afaik, hes done way more coverage than you on it too :p | ||
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uppTagg
Sweden473 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:33 sfc_Athlon wrote: vods cant be better than replays because thats just idiotic.....watch the game on fastest speed and you got yourself what they call "vod". + you have control over mouse as MJ said. can admin anwser please. is there any possbile way to negotiate with sponsor about release of replays? imperative to watch the vods shows us that community isnt on 1st place as tl.net crew used to say. Ofc vods can be better. I can lie in bed/sofa with my laptop and just enjoy games with great commentary without lifting a finger... replay watching sucks on a laptop without a mouse anyway. Saying something is idiotic when it's based on personal preference seems idiotic to me.. and your last comment pretty much seals the deal on that ^^; | ||
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b(O.o)p
699 Posts
On May 11 2008 21:18 Plexa wrote: you do know that RaGe is working on TSL right? he's one of our referees so, i'm not allowed to argue with him? just because he feels himself offended by the request for replays? | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27149 Posts
On May 11 2008 20:46 Manifesto7 wrote: Replays will not be released. It is part of our sponsorship deal. End of story. | ||
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charcute
Canada419 Posts
Its probably the same as korean proleague rep, most of them arent uploaded. But why its not???? I mean what does it gives what is the deal to not release rep. I just want to know so i understand and don't complain next time we don't have rep | ||
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charcute
Canada419 Posts
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Fenneth
Australia354 Posts
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
On May 12 2008 00:21 Fenneth wrote: I realise it's unlikely, but it would be nice if the replay for Draco vs Strelok #1 were released, given that there is no VOD for that game. i personally agree on this | ||
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AdamaS
119 Posts
Poll: Does the fact that the 'live' broadcasts are of replays affect you? (Vote): Don't care (Vote): It does make it suck | ||
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
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AdamaS
119 Posts
On May 12 2008 04:36 EmeraldSparks wrote: Can it be negotiated that replays be released in a year or so? In one year, who would care... Seriously, I can't even be bothered watching classic Boxer games anymore. | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
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YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On May 12 2008 04:28 AdamaS wrote: + Show Spoiler + Poll: Does the fact that the 'live' broadcasts are of replays affect you? (Vote): Don't care (Vote): It does make it suck I actually enjoy watching the games in commentated replay fashion because you can see resources/supply/upgrading/building. | ||
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tehsex
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Manifesto7
Osaka27149 Posts
Thank you. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On May 12 2008 07:27 tehsex wrote: haha so many ppl say that vods > reps just to defend the tourney policy but giving no arguments... sad ppl They have made more posts than necessary "defending" their logic (they dont have to). If I were a moderator you'd be banned for being stupid. How someone can be so ungrateful with an event like this boggles my mind. Get a fucking grip. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
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tehsex
296 Posts
On May 12 2008 07:47 {88}iNcontroL wrote: They have made more posts than necessary "defending" their logic (they dont have to). If I were a moderator you'd be banned for being stupid. How someone can be so ungrateful with an event like this boggles my mind. Get a fucking grip. lol can u be more nerdy plz ? chill ! cant u see i was talking about the psihology of the fact and i didnt criticize anything about tsl ? noone can give arguments that watching a vod is better than a rep ( except considering razer's intentions, but this is in their point of view, not ours, the gamers) . they were just being obedient. just like u... look at ur uncalled anger. u didnt even bother processing my words. | ||
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tehsex
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I said get a fucking grip and that was it. Sure, it was "angry" but thats because you decided to voice a completely ignorant opinion despite the numerous explanations you could have read you plowed forward as big of an idiot as ever. | ||
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Manifesto7
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