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On March 02 2008 10:40 htns wrote: You guys should vote for Nader. Nader sapped about 97,000 votes from gore in florida in 2000. He's about to sap it from Obama or Clinton NOW (depending on who wins the primary). It would be sad to see McCain win by some narrow margin that could be attributed to Nader again.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4336298&page=1
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On March 02 2008 13:00 gamecrazy67 wrote:Nader sapped about 97,000 votes from gore in florida in 2000. He's about to sap it from Obama or Clinton NOW (depending on who wins the primary). It would be sad to see McCain win by some narrow margin that could be attributed to Nader again. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4336298&page=1
Sucks for you.
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On March 02 2008 12:12 htns wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2008 10:56 The Storyteller wrote: Well, then if I were Obama I'd hope to win Texas and have Clinton sue... that will be the end of her run for nominee and, in fact, the end of her political career, no matter how well she does in Ohio and subsequent states.
Damn, I'm so nervous. Gonna be watching CNN March 4th (March 5th morning here) all the way through! What the fuck. You live in Singapore and you think you know more about American politics than me. I live in fucking America and let me tell you, Obama may win Texas, but Hillary's going to win Ohio. What the essentially says is that the Dem. race will go on even further. In the end, Obama may win. But I wouldn't be too surprised if Hillary manages to win.
you are an idiot
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On March 02 2008 13:32 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2008 12:12 htns wrote:On March 02 2008 10:56 The Storyteller wrote: Well, then if I were Obama I'd hope to win Texas and have Clinton sue... that will be the end of her run for nominee and, in fact, the end of her political career, no matter how well she does in Ohio and subsequent states.
Damn, I'm so nervous. Gonna be watching CNN March 4th (March 5th morning here) all the way through! What the fuck. You live in Singapore and you think you know more about American politics than me. I live in fucking America and let me tell you, Obama may win Texas, but Hillary's going to win Ohio. What the essentially says is that the Dem. race will go on even further. In the end, Obama may win. But I wouldn't be too surprised if Hillary manages to win. you are an idiot
-retard banned
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maybe bill richardson is leaning towards an obama endorsement if tuesday is a tie
"D Day is Tuesday. We have to have a positive campaign after Tuesday," he told CBS.
"Whoever has the most delegates after Tuesday, a clear lead, should be in my judgment the nominee."
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Gah, now they are saying it's a dead heat in Texas!
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If the primaries tomorrow result in even results, then Obama wins the nomination for sure
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"Whoever has the most delegates after Tuesday, a clear lead, should be in my judgment the nominee."
That's fairly interesting. Unless something truly bizarre happens Obama will have far more delegates.
So is that basically an announcement that he will endorse Obama in 2 days?
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Let's not get arrogant. Don't count Clinton out until she actually says she is out.
Right now that Medusa is still a threat.
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On March 02 2008 13:00 gamecrazy67 wrote:Nader sapped about 97,000 votes from gore in florida in 2000. He's about to sap it from Obama or Clinton NOW (depending on who wins the primary). It would be sad to see McCain win by some narrow margin that could be attributed to Nader again. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4336298&page=1
Most democrats are well aware of the impact Nadar had on the 2000 elections, and he will still have support, but I believe it will be a much smaller number. In 2000 people voted for Gore because they thought Bush was stupid(literally). In 2004 people voted for Kerry becuase they thought Bush was a horrible president. I think people will be voting for Obama becuase they beleieve in Obama - that will make a large differance in the turn out.
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On March 04 2008 07:56 TeCh)PsylO wrote: Most democrats are well aware of the impact Nadar had on the 2000 elections, and he will still have support, but I believe it will be a much smaller number. In 2000 people voted for Gore because they thought Bush was stupid(literally). In 2004 people voted for Kerry becuase they thought Bush was a horrible president. I think people will be voting for Obama becuase they beleieve in Obama - that will make a large differance in the turn out.
Aye, the democratic tactic of having people 'vote for the lesser evil' didn't work so well in the past couple elections. Problem is, McCain is a very likeable guy unlike Bush, so they have their work cut out for 'em.
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I don't like this Clinton seems to be pulling ahead in Ohio, even if it is the second most important state I'd rather have Obama win by a narrow margin or even virtual tie. I hope he gets a clear win in Texas.
Like Obama or not the Democratic party have to see he is the only chance they have to take back the White House.
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Note when someone in this thread reported on the Canada-Obama-NAFTA story...
Note when the media unleashes a full blitz of it, on the eve of voting day...
This is like a repeat of New Hampshire. Seriously, I saw -zero- coverage on TV media, but yesterday they all go hardcore at it. Likewise for the Rezko trial, though not as much. Rezko is a very old story, and they knew his trial date would be soon--nothing that they focused intensely on yesterday was new, or anything besides a barrage of negative press.
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On March 04 2008 09:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I don't like this Clinton seems to be pulling ahead in Ohio, even if it is the second most important state I'd rather have Obama win by a narrow margin or even virtual tie. I hope he gets a clear win in Texas.
Like Obama or not the Democratic party have to see he is the only chance they have to take back the White House.
I agree. Too many people straight up hate Hillary. Everyone loves Obama. He';s even got bitches fainting at his speeches! P.I.M.P
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ideal situation for me is clinton winning Ohio and Obama winning Texas. I wanna see this stay close all the way to the convention so it becomes an issue of super delegates or a legal battle over Florida's delegates. That would be entertaining.
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On March 04 2008 23:32 Servolisk wrote: Note when someone in this thread reported on the Canada-Obama-NAFTA story...
Note when the media unleashes a full blitz of it, on the eve of voting day...
This is like a repeat of New Hampshire. Seriously, I saw -zero- coverage on TV media, but yesterday they all go hardcore at it. Likewise for the Rezko trial, though not as much. Rezko is a very old story, and they knew his trial date would be soon--nothing that they focused intensely on yesterday was new, or anything besides a barrage of negative press.
yeah. It's bullshit that they sit on a story like that for a week until it becomes really important, completely ignore that the canadian embassy said they never discussed it, and start calling obama "defensive"
I don't know if its just to get more voters, but I cant forget how stupid the American media is.
"Although Obama was certainly grilled about Louis Farrakhan, who he doesn't associate with, while Hillary was able to skate on her endorsement from Ann Coulter. And compare the coverage of Tony Rezko with the lack of interest the press has shown in that Dubai-related investment deal that stands to net Bill -- and therefore Hillary -- a cool $20 million."
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On March 05 2008 00:23 BlackJack wrote: ideal situation for me is clinton winning Ohio and Obama winning Texas. I wanna see this stay close all the way to the convention so it becomes an issue of super delegates or a legal battle over Florida's delegates. That would be entertaining. That wouldn't be so good for the country (or the markets). Especially with hillary running, who knows what she's capable of.
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It's really a very telling sign that even a fairly international, liberal community of young, educated people such as TL can still be so thoroughly and virulently anti-Hillary. I could expect it from the United States as a whole, and certainly from cable news, but I'm surprised at how universally accepted (and encouraged) it is to slander her on these forums.
Pretty much the worst thing that you can accuse her of (and be justified) is that she's a political opportunist who will go to great lengths to get elected. Yes, this is true. But it's equally true of a lot of other people, none of whom are the target of even a small fraction of the same ire.
Now, I'm not saying that anyone needs to vote for her (I'm voting for Obama today, but I think they are both strong candidates), but I just think people need to calm down with the bashing.
ok i'm done, going to go check out the thread where people are laughing at someone calling Hillary a "cunt" on wikipedia....
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