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... so you think its more likely that strelok just randomly imagined that they had to re than that haypro lied to cover the fact that he was hacking?
well if you're willing to go to those lengths to protect haypro it isnt really worth discussing this with you.
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From what I've heard from multiple people, Haypro and Strelok played a couple different times and Strelok mixed up the matches.
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I'm sorry guys but it's a total lie. When we played with Haypro, semifinal of qcup, i appeared on top right position. After 10-15 seconds of game haypro said : "OMG, i have problems with sound. I need to restart BW!" And then he left game even no asking my agreement on that. I remember that good because of 2 reasons: i specially checked replay to see may be he got drone stuck, lost a bit of minerals and that's why out. And second thing is that i appeared in top-right potisions, which i liked less then down left, so i thought, well it's not bad he out, may be i'll be more lucky next game. But next game i was same position. Game was very important, cause if i'd win it, xLo would qualify to semifinals without last round needed, so i remembered all very good... I'm 100% sure in what i said. It's not like i forgot smth or didn't remember exactly. I'm 100% sure in my words. Pity i deleted those both games so long ago. But I'll try to use some recover files program, I doubt it will work though. Never the less, i do not say he always hacked in all games or something like that. I just say that situation was like this.
doesnt sound like he mixed them up. they did play in the 2nd to last week and strelok did need to win to guarantee xlo a playoff spot.
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On December 26 2007 04:26 MYM.Testie wrote: He had oblivion on his computer. Don't be so naive. He did lie, outright. He's a hacker and a liar and someone who generally doesn't give a damn because that's just his persona.
you speak of own experience i guess?
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On December 26 2007 05:00 IdrA wrote: ... so you think its more likely that strelok just randomly imagined that they had to re than that haypro lied to cover the fact that he was hacking?
well if you're willing to go to those lengths to protect haypro it isnt really worth discussing this with you.
donno why u dont read what i write and instead put words in my mouth, "randomly imagined" yes i clearly said that...
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On December 26 2007 04:20 TreK[cF] wrote:
My personal believe is that they played 1 game and haypro accidently still had his hack on after obsing for about an hour you believe they only played one game. strelok says quite clearly they played 2, the 15 second game then the full one after the re where he hacked. so, according to you, strelok is either lying or imagined the entire first game.
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On December 26 2007 05:20 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote + I'm sorry guys but it's a total lie. When we played with Haypro, semifinal of qcup, i appeared on top right position. After 10-15 seconds of game haypro said : "OMG, i have problems with sound. I need to restart BW!" And then he left game even no asking my agreement on that. I remember that good because of 2 reasons: i specially checked replay to see may be he got drone stuck, lost a bit of minerals and that's why out. And second thing is that i appeared in top-right potisions, which i liked less then down left, so i thought, well it's not bad he out, may be i'll be more lucky next game. But next game i was same position. Game was very important, cause if i'd win it, xLo would qualify to semifinals without last round needed, so i remembered all very good... I'm 100% sure in what i said. It's not like i forgot smth or didn't remember exactly. I'm 100% sure in my words. Pity i deleted those both games so long ago. But I'll try to use some recover files program, I doubt it will work though. Never the less, i do not say he always hacked in all games or something like that. I just say that situation was like this.
doesnt sound like he mixed them up. they did play in the 2nd to last week and strelok did need to win to guarantee xlo a playoff spot.
i have already read that statement, do you think im basing my theorys without reading streloks statement first? its still possible that strelok mixes up game 1 from game 2, making up and remembering wrong is not the same thing, maybe we can agree on that?
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On December 26 2007 05:39 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2007 04:20 TreK[cF] wrote:
My personal believe is that they played 1 game and haypro accidently still had his hack on after obsing for about an hour you believe they only played one game. strelok says quite clearly they played 2, the 15 second game then the full one after the re where he hacked. so, according to you, strelok is either lying or imagined the entire first game.
i meant game 1 i think, not 1 game
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My personal believe is that they played 1 game and haypro accidently still had his hack on after obsing for about an hour, he was too ashamed to say anything and/or he didnt think the autominingsplit would matter and for some reason decided he would turn it off for the next game, i dont 100% see the logic in that but at that moment he made that decision, in the next game he forgot to turn it off and blamed sound for restarting bw to turn off the hack, this is obvious speculations from my part but it sure looks more like a valid story.. honestly?
no it isnt valid. he still had the hack on after he left/blamed sound and restarted bw. that is the game he was caught with the hack on. i dont think you understand the series of events. they started the first game, they hadnt played before that, haypro said he had sound problems and left/restarted bw after 15 seconds. after that they started the new game, that new game is the one where haypro was caught hacking.
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He has oblivion on his computer. What's more to say?
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you're doing logical backflips just to try to find a scenario that *might* be a valid explanation as to how he hacked accidentally. the simplest solution (by far) is he hacked, on purpose, and lied to cover it up when he got caught.
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On December 26 2007 05:39 TreK[cF] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2007 05:20 IdrA wrote: I'm sorry guys but it's a total lie. When we played with Haypro, semifinal of qcup, i appeared on top right position. After 10-15 seconds of game haypro said : "OMG, i have problems with sound. I need to restart BW!" And then he left game even no asking my agreement on that. I remember that good because of 2 reasons: i specially checked replay to see may be he got drone stuck, lost a bit of minerals and that's why out. And second thing is that i appeared in top-right potisions, which i liked less then down left, so i thought, well it's not bad he out, may be i'll be more lucky next game. But next game i was same position. Game was very important, cause if i'd win it, xLo would qualify to semifinals without last round needed, so i remembered all very good... I'm 100% sure in what i said. It's not like i forgot smth or didn't remember exactly. I'm 100% sure in my words. Pity i deleted those both games so long ago. But I'll try to use some recover files program, I doubt it will work though. Never the less, i do not say he always hacked in all games or something like that. I just say that situation was like this.
doesnt sound like he mixed them up. they did play in the 2nd to last week and strelok did need to win to guarantee xlo a playoff spot. i have already read that statement, do you think im basing my theorys without reading streloks statement first? its still possible that strelok mixes up game 1 from game 2, making up and remembering wrong is not the same thing, maybe we can agree on that? no it isnt possible. qcup semi finals are best of 1. therefore the full length, real game (the one haypro hacked in) had to be the last game played. there would not be another game played after it.
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ic, then im not sure, since final was bo5 i thought that semifinal was bo3 i thought i had checked that already :p im sorry about that then !
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On December 26 2007 05:47 MYM.Testie wrote: He has oblivion on his computer. What's more to say? ye aiope was much better, what a noob
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On December 26 2007 05:20 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote + I'm sorry guys but it's a total lie. When we played with Haypro, semifinal of qcup, i appeared on top right position. After 10-15 seconds of game haypro said : "OMG, i have problems with sound. I need to restart BW!" And then he left game even no asking my agreement on that. I remember that good because of 2 reasons: i specially checked replay to see may be he got drone stuck, lost a bit of minerals and that's why out. And second thing is that i appeared in top-right potisions, which i liked less then down left, so i thought, well it's not bad he out, may be i'll be more lucky next game. But next game i was same position. Game was very important, cause if i'd win it, xLo would qualify to semifinals without last round needed, so i remembered all very good... I'm 100% sure in what i said. It's not like i forgot smth or didn't remember exactly. I'm 100% sure in my words. Pity i deleted those both games so long ago. But I'll try to use some recover files program, I doubt it will work though. Never the less, i do not say he always hacked in all games or something like that. I just say that situation was like this.
doesnt sound like he mixed them up. they did play in the 2nd to last week and strelok did need to win to guarantee xlo a playoff spot.
oh cmon he "accidentally" deleted the replay off his computer? .. and dont tell me you actually believe that recovery story
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he didnt say he accidentally deleted them, just that he deleted them. most people dont keep reps they have no use for.
but how does that matter? we have the rep anyway because it was uploaded on the site
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Emerald didn't even bother to reply ;o He just burried it.
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Seems like super bullshit. If ANYOTHER TEAM would of been caught with a hacker they would a) Have the match W.O or b) be able to choose another player along with the other team. Seems like the admin just harbors bad feelings towards Bartar so he's not going to be bias about it.
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meh meh, this discussion isn't getting anywhere, it's just like idra and trek and bartar circling back and forth.
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