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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-31 05:13:43
December 31 2007 05:12 GMT
#181
On December 31 2007 07:06 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
sadist:

Listen Mr.inactive-has-no-right-to-comment-on-joining-a-team-and-going-inactive:

We had ONE guy "join ToT and get caught hacking" and he hacked prior to ToT but was found shortly after wearing the tag.

As for inactivety.. aye.. guys tend to go inactive after joining ToT. But characterizing ToT as some giant conglomerate that destroyed clan leagues and has all these hackers / inactives on the roster is stupid and wrong. I honestly dont think you mean what you said. But for clarity sakes I would like to point out your momentary lapse into retardation

We have 9 or so active players. If that comprises the entire community you have a greater place to lay blame then a non sponsored team that merely ASKED (not stole you fucking morons, we dont have a slave trade or MONEY TO BUY PLAYERS) players to join the team. If we have a reputation and family mentality that is really attractive to players it is a GOOD thing not a bad thing.

IdrA:

Ilvy's "attitude" as you put it does not exist here. She is pointing out a lot of things (I wasnt going to say this greg but you are kinda being insanely hypocritical here...) that xLo is commonly associated with which, YOU yourself often have said/do say when with your Media friends (of which I am often a part of).

Nobody regards xLo as some kind of respectful and amazingly manner team. They ARE amazingly skilled and a great team for the community however. So if Ilvy points out her disguist in short quip posts that dont involve gargantuan flames and capslock I think we can all understand her opinion isnt exactly "new" or unique to her (as I pointed out, you often say things about xLo as well).

Also you were previously banned from TL.net iirc for over-the-top flaming of Ilvy? I could be wrong. But probably should take that into consideration. You have some odd hatred for the only 40+ woman to dabble in bw... common. Be a gent or something like that.



I have no problem with players going inactive,

But its not like people join ToT and get better, most join and get stagnant and stop playing.

TOT is no different than any of these "money" teams, sure you guys might be more friendly with each other but as idra said before, you guys have the tag, the money teams have money, you do the same things.

edit: and BTW iivy or llvy whatever the hell the ID is did make a little remark about xLo being a money team, and showed obvious bias toward tot which is hyopcritical since idra and I have already pointed out they operate the same way.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
December 31 2007 05:17 GMT
#182
On December 31 2007 13:01 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Trek was 4 years ago and he didnt hack right after joining. But you are right, I guess the same can go for Trek. Point is its not fair to describe ToT in such a narrow way... clearly it isnt the case for a team as old/respected as ToT.


trek
selector
haypro


god knows how many inactives

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-31 05:56:13
December 31 2007 05:55 GMT
#183
Players do get better. I speak from personal experience

Anyways sadist, no point arguing. You are pretty blind if you think a tag is the same as paying a player to leave a team and play for them as long as they get a monthly check. But as you do in fact think this is the same that is your opinion, and you are not alone so perhaps it is I that is wrong.. oh well. All I know is ToT fluctuates greatly in the public eye from situation to situation. We are either the golden child beloved and touched by Midas or we are the sinister corporate monster that soaks up all worth of bw and hoards it away on dusty shelves where some escape via hacks. We are neither. But imo, we certainly deserve respect. Much like when CDS, 88 or some of these other clans die... we realize their contribution through longevity and at least an attempt at adhering to some kind of decent moral code. Hopefully people like IdrA and Sadist will realize ToT is FAR greater than the comments we are experiencing in this thread.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 31 2007 06:09 GMT
#184
wasnt commenting on quality, like i said before i dont think theres anything wrong with it. its just that its hypocritical to mock xlo for buying players. tot did the same thing when there wasnt money in the scene. you used your big name to 'buy' players from other teams.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
December 31 2007 06:19 GMT
#185
So are we done now?
ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
December 31 2007 06:24 GMT
#186
On December 31 2007 14:17 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2007 13:01 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Trek was 4 years ago and he didnt hack right after joining. But you are right, I guess the same can go for Trek. Point is its not fair to describe ToT in such a narrow way... clearly it isnt the case for a team as old/respected as ToT.


trek
selector
haypro


god knows how many inactives

Don't forget hullah
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 31 2007 07:58 GMT
#187
yeah ToT is just an unbreakable family thats why tot incontrol was trying so hard today on bnet to get test games to join InteR
why so 진지해?
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