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1. A's continuously in classes like Alg II & English 11 aren't going to impress anybody.
2. I despise people like you. Full of shitty excuses for you failure. It would take more than absences to sabotage your grades that far.
3. It's too late. Even if you shape up, you have your entire sophomore year lagging you down (right)?
4. Making games? ROFL? Shape up, and stop fantasizing about how you'll help develop games for Blizzard. A simple little flash game isn't going to get you in Berkeley or MIT.
5. She's a high school counselor... in America where phrases like 'You can do anything of try hard enough!' are fed like candy to kids. You really think she is telling the truth?
6. How the hell did you parents let that happen?
7. CCs aren't that bad. My 9th grade Bio teacher went to a CC, got 4.0s throughout, transfered to UC San Diego (OH SHI), and ended up as a field biologist. Keep in mind that a 4.0 from a CC is usually worth more than a 4.4 from just any HS.
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On November 03 2007 13:18 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
I can pass school right now without really trying, i understand it all, finish homework in 1-2 hour sand have about 5 spare hours of time. Which could be better focused towards other things besides nothing.
To be quite honest, I don't think you quite get it all. Part of being smart is realizing what you have and applying yourself so that you maximize your potential. You may be able to ace tests without trying but you are failing to learn that part of life is being able to show up and be on time to what you are doing. If you are this way now how do you expect to be once you graduate college?
Even if you apply yourself and get out of all of this I don't think it will lead you to some revelation that you turned things around, it will just show you that you can dick off for as long as you want and allow for you to still get away with it.
The best thing you can do right now is to just accept the situation you are in and go get a job for a year or two. If you don't realize why you are going to school or appreciate it, there is no real reason for you to be there.
I know that none of this is what you wanted as you pointed out a couple times that you aren't looking for a lecture, you are looking for help on learning that stuff. The best help you can receive though is realizing that this is only another quick fix, it won't solve any problems.
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lol hippo no offense but you\'re an ass, and wrong
I\'m working on getting a masters in education at the moment, and I can tell you there\'s no direct correlation between your GPA, your test scores, and your intelligence (in any combination).
Basically Monkey I think you have a couple options, although it depends on what you want to do. Designing video games and being an archaeologist are completely different paths. Archeology you need school for. Programming is possible without school but honestly school is easier way to learn than on your own I think.
So either way, your best bet is probably through school... college is a good place to try different classes and see which one you\'re truly passionate about, too.
Anyways...
1. You can work your ass off for the rest of high school and show that you have turned yourself around. Not just getting high grades, but like decaf said, you\'ll have to do community service (which isn\'t all bad, if you find a fun museum to volunteer at or something) and join clubs (become an officer if possible - heck start a club yourself). It\'s possible that if you get a 4.0 your last year (or two?) then you can get accepted into a 4 year college, especially if you can write a good entrance essay.
But... if your total GPA is low, I hate to say it but most colleges will just glance at it and throw your app away unless you have shockingly high SAT scores that will make them look twice.
In which case,
2. I know you don\'t want to go to CC, but dude, you might have to do it... just think of it like doing over a couple years of high school and force yourself to excel for your future\'s sake. If you get a 4.0 in CC they won\'t give a fuck what you got in high school, and you\'ll be able to get into some nice universities. Again, you can also use this time to figure out which avenue you want to pursue. It\'s not wasted time because then it\'s 2 years of classes you don\'t have to pay for at college.
3. If you can find out what you want to do, the best way to get into it is to get an entry level job at a business and work your way up. Doesn\'t work very well with archeology (but who knows... maybe get an internship at that museum you volunteered at), but might work for programming if you have any skills.
Anyway, your best asset right now is your drive to succeed. As long as you keep that and work your ass off, you will figure something out. Don\'t stress yourself too much... it\'s easy to think that you have to figure out your whole life right away, but you\'ll have time.
Hope this helps.
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does .5 mean you are retarded?:D:D
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I'm working on getting a masters in education at the moment, and I can tell you there's no direct correlation between your GPA, your test scores, and your intelligence (in any combination).
That cannot be true. IQ (if that's what you mean by the word "intelligence") would have little meaning if it correlated with nothing. In fact I don't believe it measures anything 'real' as much as some poorly defined characteristic that you somewhat isolate because you can correlate it with a number of things. Of two people identical in all respects but IQ the one with the higher IQ would have the higher GPA unless the threshold for a perfect GPA is really low. I have to appear as an asshole to convey how it is. To have a .5 GPA... well, that's really amazingly bad.
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You're not gonna do any better if you don't find something that actually motivates you. As of now you're pretty much not motivated at all, and unless you change that you're not gonna be in a much better situation than you are now.
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you're obviously an average fucktard that's probably in remedial classes.
Ohh, you got an A in Geometry as a junior, or an A in weight training, or A in french 2. So you got a high IQ, it doesn't represent hope for the future, but possibilities thrown away in the past.
If you really know what's good for you, start studying for SAT's, take AP's, join a sports team, community service, take control of your life, join clubs and become an officer (yeah right), and don't fantasize about video game designing. If you can make a video game that will sell like Halo, then go for it. Otherwise, be realistic and just start working hard.
Oh and, community college: fucking EASY. i took chem-101, psych-101, spanish 102b, chem-o.chem202, and a biotech class. EASY AS SHIT. they say AP is the introductory level class for chem in college. LOL. AP chem was 10 times harder than community college chem-101.
and don't joke me about language. their 4th semester language was about high school's honors spanish 2 or 3. 4.0 in community college is no problem, just actually do the work. maybe i just go to a good high school, because community college is just an easy way for us to review and get lots of credits.
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On November 03 2007 14:15 FragKrag wrote:
1. A's continuously in classes like Alg II & English 11 aren't going to impress anybody.
2. I despise people like you. Full of shitty excuses for you failure. It would take more than absences to sabotage your grades that far.
3. It's too late. Even if you shape up, you have your entire sophomore year lagging you down (right)?
4. Making games? ROFL? Shape up, and stop fantasizing about how you'll help develop games for Blizzard. A simple little flash game isn't going to get you in Berkeley or MIT.
5. She's a high school counselor... in America where phrases like 'You can do anything of try hard enough!' are fed like candy to kids. You really think she is telling the truth?
6. How the hell did you parents let that happen?
7. CCs aren't that bad. My 9th grade Bio teacher went to a CC, got 4.0s throughout, transfered to UC San Diego (OH SHI), and ended up as a field biologist. Keep in mind that a 4.0 from a CC is usually worth more than a 4.4 from just any HS.
Your a fucking retard, Require more then absences? Apparnelty it doens't if thats what happend, and that' shwy i'm failing, when this year i actually go and i actually try, and i actually get decent-good grades. So shut your mouth before you call me a failure. I have no reason to lie on the internet about why my grades are so low, why my GPA is so low, why why why why why. I can go on for years, to sum up my entire life would probably take about 20 minutes, and it just isn't rellivent to the topic.
I thank all of your for your advice/lectures/anything postive or truthful you have to offer.
@Chill
I'm inclined to disagree, i am not using this as a method to make myself feel better, i can do tons of other shit to make myself feel better. And i am obvioously not continueing down the same path as i was a year or 2 ago, I have motivation, i'm tired of not caring, i'm tired of being condescended to by people who have that cute little 3.0 gpa and haven't gotten left abck and for some reason think they are somehow smarter or more intelligent then me, even though they can't figure out how to get rid of a computer virus (Yes, that's an actual exmaple of something that happened) I have every intention of no longer being a failure, and i plan to get as high as possible on the SAT, probably around 2200+ or something, i knwo i'm saying that like it's easy, which i don't beleive it's going to be. But if i study hard enough, more so then most people, i tend to catch onto stuff pretty quickly, and learn relatively fast.
For those who said i should probably challenge myself more and do more extra stuff, such as volunteering, clubs, etc.
I'm currently a member of something called JSA, Junior Statesman of America, I like politics, i like argueing, i figured it could be fun, there kind of dumb, and don't really make sense, and the style of debating is not what i'm used to, by argueing with people on aim, or in person, or wherever. But it's alright and sometimes entertaining. But i should try and do more, and i think i will, maybe i should switch into more advanced classes, i agree that if i'm taking 1+1 = 2 math it's not optimizing my potential to anymeans.
Community College isn't that bad, as you have all said, 2 good years there might not be so bad, i mean especially comapired to the time i have wasted in highschool.
One of you mentioned how i was dreaming of helping blizzard develop a new game. OMG I CANT BELIVE IT YOU CAUGHT ME!! I played starcraft now i must chase some half wit dream to make games for the compnay that mades the bestest rts evaaZZzZz~~` Oh wait a second, I barely play SC anymore, and when i played it actively and loved it, i never really thougth about my future. After i stopped playing as much i started thinking more, more about potential careers, more about my future, and more about what i like and what i would like to do. When i realized i liked video games, i played a lot of them, and i wouldn't mind making them for a living.
From now on i'm not giong to even bother responding in insulting ways towards anyone, no matter what they say, i'm just giong to respond to those who make actual constructive posts, which make sense.
Now for Bill, Thanks man, i am going to go to those sites either today or tomorrow, thanks man, oh and to someone else, i didn't think designing some shitty flash game would get me into MIT, but perhaps it would help get me into a lessor school with game design as a major, I only said what the lady said, quoted back, i didn't say "Help me make a flash game so that i may go to MIT and be #1 stunna on campas!" Figured i would explain that little bit, that i don't exspect to create the next zombie massacre game in 2D and go to MIT, it's clearly unrealistic to think that anything i do at this poitn would get me into an ivy league schoool. Unless i were to cure cancer.
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There are actually some schools that'll accept you no matter your GPA (that are actually really good schools). The college I go to, the Academy of Art in San Francisco doesn't give a shit about your GPA and portfolio (although having those makes things easier, not for admission but other things) as long you have the money to attend (fucking 20-25k a year, but that's not as bad as other schools I guess) or are poor enough to get a shit load of financial aid (ie. me). Although if you're middle class then I guess you'll need to take out a shitload of loans.
The only catch is if you fall below a 2.0 at any point in time you get kicked out, but I think that's normal.
It doesn't have a archaeology or history department (obviously), but it has an awesome game development department. So if you're that desperate that's an option. However I'm sure there are plenty of other colleges like that who will accept you.
Edit: Also, I would actually still recommend going to community college first to get all of the required academic courses (I'm to sleepy to think of the proper term) out of the way cheaply. Like math, english, history, or whatever since if you go to regular college you'll be paying like 10x the amount for the exact same credits.
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@op: you're joking right?
just go to a cc. it's not that bad at all, and it's probably going to be your best choice for someone as unmotivated as you. even if you did make it to a good college you'd probably just be wasting your time and money there doing jack crap, since you don't even know how to get through high school at the moment. and if you're going to do something like video game design or whatever you said, going to a cc would probably be the smartest choice anyway.
no offense, but if you're really as motivated/smart as you say you are you'd have realized that grades really don't matter; if you know what you want to do and you have the drive to do it, you wouldn't be posting here asking for help like this, rofl sorry it's just so retardedly funny to me.
i went through a similar situation when i was in high school first two years, but despite not doing shit i managed to get away with a 1.6gpa, and i got my act together walked off with a 3.3gpa by the end of high school. i didn't even have to "try" or whatever. then i applied to several different universities and got into all of them (if you live in cali, usc, uc davis, san diego, riverside, sjsu, usf), but i still ended up going to a cc just because it's just so much cheaper. and after 2 years of cc with good grades you can pretty much go wherever the fuck you want, as long as you have the motivation to do what you want to do.
get your act together. you still have plenty of time to fix your grades, or at the very least, get your priorities straight. good luck.
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i think your main priority is to come to class from now on. Don't ditch anymore again and just come to class. You dont even have to listen to the teacher if u dont want to but just show up. Get all the assignments, figure out how to do the material and turn it what ur supposed to do.
A lot of kids are having this problem nowadays and dont wanna go to school but you seriously gotta give it a try.
I probably have the best attendance for all the slackers out there(which im one of) and im pulling off a 2.7 in college. Think about it man if you dont go to high school who is gonna support you when ur like 19.
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On November 03 2007 14:40 skyglow1 wrote:
You're not gonna do any better if you don't find something that actually motivates you. As of now you're pretty much not motivated at all, and unless you change that you're not gonna be in a much better situation than you are now.
I have motivation now, what it is isn't really rellivent to the convesation, unless someone tells me how it is, i won't bother saying it, since it's kind of a long story.
Oh and berated- i almost frogot to respond to you.
To be quite honest, I don't think you quite get it all. Part of being smart is realizing what you have and applying yourself so that you maximize your potential. You may be able to ace tests without trying but you are failing to learn that part of life is being able to show up and be on time to what you are doing. If you are this way now how do you expect to be once you graduate college? Your right, i do not push myself at all in these classes, i should get into more AP classes. Nothing else to say here.
Even if you apply yourself and get out of all of this I don't think it will lead you to some revelation that you turned things around, it will just show you that you can dick off for as long as you want and allow for you to still get away with it.
I disagree here, I realized i couldn't dick off for as long as i want and get away with it, i'm suffering from it right now, clearly. Now i have to play catch up, which is clearly not going to be easy, while if i just worked my entire way through, i wouldn't have to go crazy now, looking for insane ways to turn everything around. I don't ever plan on doing something this dumb again. I used to go home watch TV play sc/other video game. Now i go home do homework, check it and do whatever else, sleep early get up and do my work until the weekends. I don't fuck around anymore, i learned that's not the way to go through life. Trying to get by on the minimum just doens't seem like a good idea AT ALL. [/quote]
The best thing you can do right now is to just accept the situation you are in and go get a job for a year or two. If you don't realize why you are going to school or appreciate it, there is no real reason for you to be there. I like to think i know why i'm going to school now, but maybe i don't. I go to school so that in the future i am not a useless person, and that i may actually like who i am, as an educated individual, someone who isn't the stupidest person in the world, to have a purpose, to be happy, and school will help with that. regardless of how i feel towards it. To help me be content or happy wiht myself, that's schools purpose, to be a stepping stone to that goal. And i don't tihnk i appreciate it, becuase i am not pushed. So this is not a good direction to go in, so i'm going to see if i can switch into different classes on monday, talk to my guidance counselor, i need a challenge, or i won't stay focused and will inevitably get bored. Being in these classes won't help.
I know that none of this is what you wanted as you pointed out a couple times that you aren't looking for a lecture, you are looking for help on learning that stuff. The best help you can receive though is realizing that this is only another quick fix, it won't solve any problems.
I always welcome helpful criticism and advice, yours was very good and i appreciate the time you put into it. Besides without the lecutres how would this get bumped so people like bill could post the information i requested 
And i don't plan on looking for quick fixes around every turn, because like i said before they lead to you having to do insane amounts of stuff, or insane stuff in a short amount of time. I rather ease myself through stuff from now on.
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On November 03 2007 15:03 noobienoob wrote:
@op: you're joking right?
just go to a cc. it's not that bad at all, and it's probably going to be your best choice for someone as unmotivated as you. even if you did make it to a good college you'd probably just be wasting your time and money there doing jack crap, since you don't even know how to get through high school at the moment. and if you're going to do something like video game design or whatever you said, going to a cc would probably be the smartest choice anyway.
no offense, but if you're really as motivated/smart as you say you are you'd have realized that grades really don't matter; if you know what you want to do and you have the drive to do it, you wouldn't be posting here asking for help like this, rofl sorry it's just so retardedly funny to me.
i went through a similar situation when i was in high school first two years, but despite not doing shit i managed to get away with a 1.6gpa, and i got my act together walked off with a 3.3gpa by the end of high school. i didn't even have to "try" or whatever. then i applied to several different universities and got into all of them (if you live in cali, usc, uc davis, san diego, riverside, sjsu, usf), but i still ended up going to a cc just because it's just so much cheaper. and after 2 years of cc with good grades you can pretty much go wherever the fuck you want, as long as you have the motivation to do what you want to do.
get your act together. you still have plenty of time to fix your grades, or at the very least, get your priorities straight. good luck.
I'm more motivated now then i was, if you read the entire thread, but i should of probably included that in he OP. But you guys are probalby right about the community college thing, it can't be that bad. And this isn't the 1960's without a highschool diploma and a probably some sort of college education, your not really going anywhere, my dad finished highschool, didn't go to college and now earns like 130k a year owning his own construction business, that just won't happen in this day and age, Actually i'm not even sure if he has full high school education. I don't beleive grades mean nothing, they have to mean something. Since you kind of need them, maybe comibned iwht other stuff to get into colleges, they can't mean nothing.
@BrutalMenace
I'm tired of being a slacker, it's boring as fuck. I have already started to step it up, i just am happy i am now getting advice on what i should step up and do exactly.
Someone also said they know i haven't gone to school for the last few days, i was wondeirng how they knew that, but theres reasons behind that, i did something stupid and can't go for a few days. Not going to happen again.
edit: clazziquai is the one who said that.
Oh and bill, whats CS stand for?
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hey bro, you and me are on the same page...
I am graduation high school with a 1.2.
Pretty much I'm looking at community college for 2 years, then to transfer.
We've both fucked up and we're both intelligent, but we have to deal with the negative repruccsions due to our academic lethargy  .
But there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Colleges look at progress. If they see that finnaly you have became motivated after years of failure (visable via your grades), there IS a chance you can go to a state college out of high school.
Rely on your intelect (lol i've spelled half the words in this aricle completely wrong, fuck english! calc ftw). When it comes time to write your college essay (which you should start NOW), explain your situation similarly to how you did in your OP.
Keep your head up man, I've fucked my life up with heroin and various other controlled substances but the key is to be optomistic.
Your strength lies in the fact that you know you're lazy as fuck, and that you're better then that, and to achieve the goals that you wish to achieve you're going to have to overcome your total disregard for school.
College , from what I hear, is a completely diffrent scenario than high school. People with no affinity towards public education can accel well beyond their years in college due to it's completely different structure.
Sorry for the rant, I've just had alot of the same thoughts in my mind, and I'm trying to be as optomistic as possible. But in all honesty, there's always a light at the end of the tunnel. You can be succesfull if you wish to succeed.
Gah, i type too much. Anyways, best of luck my friend, take care!
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On November 03 2007 13:13 Bill307 wrote:1. Start doing well in school again. Make your grade a high priority. Excel. 2. Get into a well-known college/university that is prominent in whatever field you want to study. It is very beneficial to attend an institution that has a strong reputation in said field. Literally everything is better when the institution is well-known: your classmates, your professors, your courses, and your prospects after graduation. 3. Use your high marks (and co-op experience, if you're fortunate to get into a program with co-op) to get interviews for jobs that you feel passionate about. 4. Win. 
ahh my main man summed it up right here
your intellect never ceases to amaze me mr. bill!
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have fun in community college... if you graduate
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by the way you have no chance at a great school like berkeley or MIT
the people that get into those schools have been excelling from day 1
actually the people that get rejected from those schools have been excelling from day 1
edit: if you are truly as smart as you say you are then just embrace your fate, go to CC and make good grades (it should be ridiculously easy to do this. you can probably train a parrot to make straight A's in CC). If you 4 at CC then you can transfer into a decent state school (probably not the best). that's the best way to show real schools you've cleaned up your act
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Man, even my terrible pot head friend got more than .5 GPA, but anyways glad to hear you're doing better. After HS is a really weird thing (I'm not there yet), your childhood is ending and only very few people seem to be able to break through and do what they want. The majority will get a nice office job, maybe get married, have kids, a more or less simple life. It's a kind of depressing prospect, I can't understand how people can be satisfied with just that, but maybe I will when I get there.
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On November 03 2007 14:52 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
@Chill
I'm inclined to disagree, i am not using this as a method to make myself feel better, i can do tons of other shit to make myself feel better. And i am obvioously not continueing down the same path as i was a year or 2 ago, I have motivation, i'm tired of not caring, i'm tired of being condescended to by people who have that cute little 3.0 gpa and haven't gotten left abck and for some reason think they are somehow smarter or more intelligent then me, even though they can't figure out how to get rid of a computer virus (Yes, that's an actual exmaple of something that happened) I have every intention of no longer being a failure, and i plan to get as high as possible on the SAT, probably around 2200+ or something, i knwo i'm saying that like it's easy, which i don't beleive it's going to be. But if i study hard enough, more so then most people, i tend to catch onto stuff pretty quickly, and learn relatively fast.
This reminds me of when I went from grade 8 (elementary school) to grade 9 (high school).
In grade 8 I was pretty good at academics but I hated school and ended up with a 70ish mark. Towards the end of grade 8, I remember missing a loooot of days of school. I'd use any excuse to stay home. I must have missed at least 5x as many days as the next most absent person.
Going into grade 9 something kicked in my head and I suddenly felt a lot more determined to do well in school. Probably a combination of having huge resentment for some of my teachers in elementary school and for my parents (for lots of things + putting me on anti-depressant meds), and meeting this nice girl who had really high marks (decided I wanted high marks like her, too). And I guess I'm also naturally inclined to feel very determined to accomplish things when under pressure. And finally, part of it was just me growing up.
These things happen, and I'm glad you've decided to start getting the marks that you know you deserve, and to start planning ahead for your future. 
Edit: oh yeah, you should definitely take the advanced courses. Always take the most advanced courses offered at your level. If you do anything less, you are only holding yourself back. (this applies to any smart person, imo)
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