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Korea (South)11575 Posts
On November 04 2007 08:08 fight_or_flight wrote:
1) get a GED immediately
2) go to CC for 2 years and do well
3) transfer to the school of your choice
Thats basically how it works. I took the ged with a 7th grade education and then went to a CC (and I didn't even have good grades). Now I'm a senior in EE and physics. I don't see how high school helps you prepare for college anyway, just get a GED and go to college. Community colleges are better for the first 2 years anyway , they are easier, cheaper, smaller classes, and you learn more.
Your parents may disagree with this decision, but college is actually easier in a lot of ways, namely you are actually learning things and people around you are more motivated. If you can get your parents to go along with it, I think it would be really good for you.
edit: my first math class in college was elementary algebra I (Math 27). So don't worry about starting low there, it doesn't really mater what level you are at.
This is a great idea to be honest. Think about it, by the time your friends graduate high school, you will enter a state university as a junior while they enter community college as a freshman, you're pretty much skipping 2 years of school. Great idea....
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A GED is never as good as a highschool diploma, however. If it was, then people would get GEDs and go to Harvard or something. It's automatically assumed that if you are getting a GED it is because your GPA is insanely low, unless you have other issues. I'd only recommend a GED if you feel that you can't follow through on raising your GPA.
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I think you should go 9pool into CC.
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On November 05 2007 03:09 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2007 13:43 HeadBangaa wrote:On November 04 2007 02:18 fanatacist wrote:On November 04 2007 02:13 bine wrote:
In all honesty: therapy. Get your shit straight. If you never go to school, something else is going on that needs to be fixed. Not every slacker is a psychopath or retard that needs therapy. Not every slacker has been abused or has alcholic parents, either. I think trying again with a new resolve and outlook may be all the therapy he needs. If not, then there might be need for extra help. I feel people nowadays rely too much on doctors and medicine when the fault lies within their reach. If they can solve it by themselves with their own will power, seeking help will only make them weaker in the future when they face other problems. Asking for tips is okay, getting someone to help you as if you are diseased is not. Just my opinion. I think if he maintains the state of mind he has now he is far from ever needing a therapist. Fuck you, don't perpetuate this baseless stigma. Seriously, people like you cause others to be afraid to get the help they need. Some of the smartest people I've known have gone through major depression, and therapy helped them develop better coping mechanisms. Have you read my subsequent post? No. Good job. Ignored.
Do either of you guys even have a degree in Psychology? Or even taken any Psychology classes/seminars? Psychology is one of those things that people pretend to know, but have no fucking idea.
In fact, in my study of psychology, I have come to realize that the very people in the Psychological field considered to be of highest prestige are the ones who assert we don't know about Psychology as much as we'd like to think.
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On November 05 2007 03:39 TheosEx wrote:
I have come to realize that the very people in the Psychological field considered to be of highest prestige are the ones who assert we don't know about Psychology as much as we'd like to think.
O_O?
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It's weird, but i read TheosEx post got an image in my head of what he must look like, scrolled down and saw beyonders icon, which pretty much summed it up.
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IQ is potential for learning not how smart you are. Stop putting so much weight in IQ scores.
Bust your ass and get your GPA up to a decent level. There should be at least one decent low level state school that you can get into with the proper SAT/ACT scores and an OK GPA.
I'm recovering also and my plan is to get my GPA up some and do well in ACT/SAT then apply to Clayton State, Georgia State, or a slightly lower level school.
So yeah, I know where you are and it sucks but it's not impossible, just work hard. I don't think you should get an activity until you have your shit together and have a good work ethic. A sport or club may conflict with your school work and cause you to do poorly.
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By the way, a lot of the people posting in this thread are the biggest assholes ever.
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On November 05 2007 03:39 TheosEx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2007 03:09 fanatacist wrote:On November 04 2007 13:43 HeadBangaa wrote:On November 04 2007 02:18 fanatacist wrote:On November 04 2007 02:13 bine wrote:
In all honesty: therapy. Get your shit straight. If you never go to school, something else is going on that needs to be fixed. Not every slacker is a psychopath or retard that needs therapy. Not every slacker has been abused or has alcholic parents, either. I think trying again with a new resolve and outlook may be all the therapy he needs. If not, then there might be need for extra help. I feel people nowadays rely too much on doctors and medicine when the fault lies within their reach. If they can solve it by themselves with their own will power, seeking help will only make them weaker in the future when they face other problems. Asking for tips is okay, getting someone to help you as if you are diseased is not. Just my opinion. I think if he maintains the state of mind he has now he is far from ever needing a therapist. Fuck you, don't perpetuate this baseless stigma. Seriously, people like you cause others to be afraid to get the help they need. Some of the smartest people I've known have gone through major depression, and therapy helped them develop better coping mechanisms. Have you read my subsequent post? No. Good job. Ignored. Do either of you guys even have a degree in Psychology? Or even taken any Psychology classes/seminars? Psychology is one of those things that people pretend to know, but have no fucking idea. In fact, in my study of psychology, I have come to realize that the very people in the Psychological field considered to be of highest prestige are the ones who assert we don't know about Psychology as much as we'd like to think.
Yes.
And you're a moron - so says the rest of TL! Congrats.
GG NO RE.
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Why do you think he's a moron, fanatacist? What he says makes enough sense. Why do you think poker is so profitable for some people? The vast majority of people misjudge how accurately they can judge other people. Know yourself, and you will win half your battles. Know both yourself and your enemy, and you will win all your battles. Know neither yourself nor your enemy, and you will succumb in every battle.
PS: I've taken a couple courses in psychology and similar fields 
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It's weird, but i read TheosEx post got an image in my head of what he must look like, scrolled down and saw beyonders icon, which pretty much summed it up.
I find that ironic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least in my country, all things you learn in highschool is practical go-to information. You're skipping class constantly and wasting a free education (don't give me bullshit that it's stuff you already know, cause if it were you wouldn't be failing). Who's the future Special Olympics star here?
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On November 05 2007 05:51 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2007 03:39 TheosEx wrote:On November 05 2007 03:09 fanatacist wrote:On November 04 2007 13:43 HeadBangaa wrote:On November 04 2007 02:18 fanatacist wrote:On November 04 2007 02:13 bine wrote:
In all honesty: therapy. Get your shit straight. If you never go to school, something else is going on that needs to be fixed. Not every slacker is a psychopath or retard that needs therapy. Not every slacker has been abused or has alcholic parents, either. I think trying again with a new resolve and outlook may be all the therapy he needs. If not, then there might be need for extra help. I feel people nowadays rely too much on doctors and medicine when the fault lies within their reach. If they can solve it by themselves with their own will power, seeking help will only make them weaker in the future when they face other problems. Asking for tips is okay, getting someone to help you as if you are diseased is not. Just my opinion. I think if he maintains the state of mind he has now he is far from ever needing a therapist. Fuck you, don't perpetuate this baseless stigma. Seriously, people like you cause others to be afraid to get the help they need. Some of the smartest people I've known have gone through major depression, and therapy helped them develop better coping mechanisms. Have you read my subsequent post? No. Good job. Ignored. Do either of you guys even have a degree in Psychology? Or even taken any Psychology classes/seminars? Psychology is one of those things that people pretend to know, but have no fucking idea. In fact, in my study of psychology, I have come to realize that the very people in the Psychological field considered to be of highest prestige are the ones who assert we don't know about Psychology as much as we'd like to think. Yes. And you're a moron - so says the rest of TL! Congrats. GG NO RE.
Yes, you have taken a Psychology class? seminar? degree? If you have, you wouldn't have spouted the stupid bullshit you said in the previous post. You would know enough about Psychology to know what I'm saying is the truth. That is why it takes FOREVER to get a master's/doctorates in Psychology. They want to separate the smart people from the dumbasses like you.
If you don't understand the last sentence of my previous post, that further tells me how little you know what you're talking about. That setence is the reason why basically half of what you learn in Psychology has to do minimizing mistakes as much as possible. Why every fucking psychological article has a "discussion" section, to stir up further research. Why every university that claims to be "psychology-based" places a huge emphasis on research, not teaching. Because we haven't even scratched the surface of psychology yet.
And who's the moron? Do you even know what a moron is? I would call you one, but I doubt you have the mental capacity of a nine year old. Do us a favor, and do something we like to call "research" every once in a while before you start spouting more retarded shit.
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On November 05 2007 05:30 DeadVessel wrote:
IQ is potential for learning not how smart you are. Stop putting so much weight in IQ scores.
Bust your ass and get your GPA up to a decent level. There should be at least one decent low level state school that you can get into with the proper SAT/ACT scores and an OK GPA.
I'm recovering also and my plan is to get my GPA up some and do well in ACT/SAT then apply to Clayton State, Georgia State, or a slightly lower level school.
So yeah, I know where you are and it sucks but it's not impossible, just work hard. I don't think you should get an activity until you have your shit together and have a good work ethic. A sport or club may conflict with your school work and cause you to do poorly.
On the first sentence. Exactly.
IQ actually starts to lose it's validity/reliability after you reach your early teens. IQ is basically used as a measure for young children to determine only "how much potential you have" and if you're retarded. That sounds kind of blatant, but if you get an IQ of 50 when you're eleven years old, psychologists would consider you retarded or atleast mentally challenged. After your early teen years, it's already most likely been determined if you're retarded or not, so the IQ test loses value. From there, everyone starts to basically even out.
So yeah, as he said, don't put so much emphasis on IQ for 'how smart you are.'
No offense, but the counselor was basically just buttering you up. It's part of their job. They can't say, "You're stupid, you probably won't even get into community college." I'm willing to bet my life on it. It's part of the whole "give a positive outlook" thing.
P.S. PsychoTemplar, what school do you go to? I'm currently working finishing up a Psychology minor.
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If you don't have the motivation to do something as easy as schoolwork, you won't have the motivation to learn how to make a flash-based game from scratch. You're still trying to find a shortcut.
Go to your Community College.
Get at least B's and C's.
Transfer to a 4 year University.
Start looking for your "dream job"
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Phoned, I'm exhausted just thinking about all the work you went through to make that one post. We can't all be mechanical entities powering our way through work, like you.
P.S. PsychoTemplar, what school do you go to? I'm currently working finishing up a Psychology minor.
The courses I took were in high school. Admittedly that's not very impressive sounding, but I had some good teachers, and a natural inclination towards it. Also, stop betting your life on silly things  It's something they call in poker "Bankroll Management," and goes along with what you were saying when you referred to the most revered professional psychologists advocating that what they truly know, is how little the know (ie: don't treat things as absolute facts. There's a reason one of the first things you learn when analysing people is that there are always deviants).
PS: You've probably noticed I referred to poker twice already. It's because I think people who play poker for a living successfully are among the worlds greatest psychologists out there (at least at the poker table), even if they don't have the degrees to say they are. It's also notable, that although you say we haven't even scratched the surface of psychology yet, I would consider someone applying psychology for practical gain is at least that much, even if they don't fully understand why everything works out the way it does.
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On November 05 2007 07:08 TheosEx wrote:
IQ actually starts to lose it's validity/reliability after you reach your early teens. IQ is basically used as a measure for young children to determine only "how much potential you have" and if you're retarded. That sounds kind of blatant, but if you get an IQ of 50 when you're eleven years old, psychologists would consider you retarded or atleast mentally challenged. After your early teen years, it's already most likely been determined if you're retarded or not, so the IQ test loses value. From there, everyone starts to basically even out.
So yeah, as he said, don't put so much emphasis on IQ for 'how smart you are.'
No offense, but the counselor was basically just buttering you up. It's part of their job. They can't say, "You're stupid, you probably won't even get into community college." I'm willing to bet my life on it. It's part of the whole "give a positive outlook" thing.
P.S. PsychoTemplar, what school do you go to? I'm currently working finishing up a Psychology minor.
Though originally invented by Binet to diagnose mentally handicapped children, we can't really say that it starts to lose it's validity and reliability once we pass the teenage years? It's still a very important tool in organizations and used countless of times daily to decide who is the best candidate for the job, or if someone is a proper candidate at all. It's the best prediction possible for more sitations? .54 correlation, opposed to .40 for assessment centers! Not even mentioning other elements of psychology.. 
As for school achievement, it is important to note the IQ. The correlation between IQ-tests at the age of 12 and 18 is .89. The correlation between a (high) IQ and acedemical achievement is .50 (~25% of the variation in school achievement is decided by IQ). Though not the deciding factor, it plays a big role.
And an IQ of 50 would be pretty retarded.
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BTW monkey, I might have forgot to mention that if you transfer from a community college, you don't have to show the university any SATs or high school grades.
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Though originally invented by Binet to diagnose mentally handicapped children, we can't really say that it starts to lose it's validity and reliability once we pass the teenage years? It's still a very important tool in organizations and used countless of times daily to decide who is the best candidate for the job, or if someone is a proper candidate at all. It's the best prediction possible for more sitations? .54 correlation, opposed to .40 for assessment centers! Not even mentioning other elements of psychology..
As for school achievement, it is important to note the IQ. The correlation between IQ-tests at the age of 12 and 18 is .89. The correlation between a (high) IQ and acedemical achievement is .50 (~25% of the variation in school achievement is decided by IQ). Though not the deciding factor, it plays a big role
Do you know how those statistics were collected? GG. Statistics are meaningless if you don't know how they were obtained. There is a great importance to research in psychology, and your post just ignores that.
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On November 04 2007 03:08 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
Congrats mom, you majored in accounting, possibly one of the easiest things in the world. Please continue holding that over my head.
I majored in accounting, and it was not fucking easy OK. After 4 years of business classes I had to go through grueling interviews and was able to get an internship at an accounting firm. From there I got hired, and now I am on my way to grad school to get a masters in taxation. (which my firm is paying for) I am 24 years old and making more than enough to live comfortably, and in 4-5 years I'll be making over 6 figures. Your mom was not an idiot for getting an accounting degree, although maybe she isn't the brightest for not doing anything with it. In fact, accounting degrees are one of the best degrees out there. They almost guarantee you a good job. Accounting is one of the fastest growing industries, and it's ridiculously easy to get a job in accounting right now. I get calls from tons of recruiters every day offering me jobs at other firms.
So please don't go talking about how accounting is one of the easiest degrees out there when you don't know what your talking about. I'm not saying it's extremely difficult, but it is challenging and offers great rewards. I know exactly where your at right now. I was just like you once, 17 and cocky as hell. Thinking I was "smarter" than most other people and could take shortcuts through life. Well I ended up becoming a heroin addict for 4 years. My last 2 years of college and first 2 years at my job I was a full blown addict. I miraculously managed to hold onto my job, and decided I needed to get my life together. I detoxed using methadone and am now concentrating fully on my family and my career. I am not trying to take anymore shortcuts through life. That's also why I got into drugs, I wanted a "shortcut" out of heartbreak and emotional distress. I'm not going to lie, life is not easy for a lot of people. You just need to take responsibility and realize there are no shortcuts. If you want to become a programmer, you can do it, but it will be a hard road.
I am not telling you all this to scare you. I'm also not suggesting you are ever going to go out and use heroin or any other drugs. I'm just saying to be careful, and that certain attitudes towards life can get you into big trouble. Many people live lives of daily agony because of bad past decisions. I almost completely fucked my life up, and my life is still not totally back to normal yet. Every day is a struggle but it is getting easier. You are still young, so you have a lot of time to turn your life around. Just remember, things could be worse, just look at what happened to me. Now I am on my way to a happy life. You can do it too.
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On November 05 2007 06:20 PsycHOTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +It's weird, but i read TheosEx post got an image in my head of what he must look like, scrolled down and saw beyonders icon, which pretty much summed it up. I find that ironic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least in my country, all things you learn in highschool is practical go-to information. You're skipping class constantly and wasting a free education (don't give me bullshit that it's stuff you already know, cause if it were you wouldn't be failing). Who's the future Special Olympics star here?
Well, very little of what i learn in highschool is practical, imo, but the difference between Canada and the USA educational systems is apparently this. I can go and do little to no work and pass highschool, with a higher GPA then this, but going to school 1/5 days and getting 90's on there tests ends you with a low GPA, it's more of a daycare system i guess, considering knowledge means less then attendence.
And Thanks flight, knowing that might change some decisions i make, knowing that trasnfering from a CC means i don't need to show highschool GPA, but can show SAT stuff is very useful information, the kind i'm lookign for in tihs thread. Unlike TheosEx and people like PsycHOTemplar, who are telling me how fucked and retarded i am. I don't care about your sexy minor or major in psychology, or if you can break down and diagnose my mental state, it doens't matter to me, not in this thread anyway, please feel free to PM me with all YOUR solutions and judgements and uninformed guesses at all MY problems in life. But keep your shit advice out of a thread. And hey, if you really wanna see what judgements you can make about my life, my state of mind, and my potential to become a serial killer, please feel free to Message me on aim or PM me and i will tell you everything you ask, and pretend to listen to your semi profesisonal opinion, then when you finally finish with your psychoanalysis of me, i will pause my youtube AMV of Naruto vs Sasuke (Very good videos if you like fighitng stufF) Say thank you for your time, and goodbye, then resume my video where it was.
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