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draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
November 03 2007 23:05 GMT
#121
Your lack of intelligence early on (not trying, not going to school, etc) is going to cause you even more hassle to get where you what to go. You're on the right track now repairing your GPA, but it won't get high enough in time. By the time you hit your 3rd or 4th year, it's VERY difficult to raise your gpa significantly. Keep trying, go to community college for a couple years and get straight As (if you don't, this won't work.) After 1 year apply to a different school. If they get you in, go - if they don't do another year of CC. Apply again after your 2nd year of straight As. This time you should easily get into a state school or maybe depending on how well you present yourself - a higher level institution. Finish off your work there.

If you piss away community college like you did high school, you wont' get any more chances. You'll pretty much be stuck living a life you hate because you aren't qualified to perform any jobs you want.

t.t
MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
November 03 2007 23:06 GMT
#122
get all a's, join some activity in school, appeal when they kick you out.

that's what i did.
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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-03 23:12:14
November 03 2007 23:08 GMT
#123
1) get a GED immediately

2) go to CC for 2 years and do well

3) transfer to the school of your choice

Thats basically how it works. I took the ged with a 7th grade education and then went to a CC (and I didn't even have good grades). Now I'm a senior in EE and physics. I don't see how high school helps you prepare for college anyway, just get a GED and go to college. Community colleges are better for the first 2 years anyway , they are easier, cheaper, smaller classes, and you learn more.

Your parents may disagree with this decision, but college is actually easier in a lot of ways, namely you are actually learning things and people around you are more motivated. If you can get your parents to go along with it, I think it would be really good for you.

edit: my first math class in college was elementary algebra I (Math 27). So don't worry about starting low there, it doesn't really mater what level you are at.
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Seanithan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States130 Posts
November 03 2007 23:15 GMT
#124
For everyone saying that he can't possibly make something of his life if he doesn't do well in high school (or go to college) is highly mistaken. A large portion of the world's billionaires didn't even finish high school.

Einstein dropped out, he did fine.

Then again you could end up on the street. But that's life, is it not?
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-03 23:38:22
November 03 2007 23:35 GMT
#125
On November 04 2007 08:15 Seanithan wrote:
For everyone saying that he can't possibly make something of his life if he doesn't do well in high school (or go to college) is highly mistaken. A large portion of the world's billionaires didn't even finish high school.

Einstein dropped out, he did fine.

Then again you could end up on the street. But that's life, is it not?


lawl a large portion of the world's billionaires
maybe didn't finish college, but high school? bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

plus einstein may not have finished traditional high school, but he studied all the material on his own and did studying at a tech university in switzerland, so he still had a significant education
Seanithan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States130 Posts
November 03 2007 23:55 GMT
#126
On November 04 2007 08:35 KOFgokuon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2007 08:15 Seanithan wrote:
For everyone saying that he can't possibly make something of his life if he doesn't do well in high school (or go to college) is highly mistaken. A large portion of the world's billionaires didn't even finish high school.

Einstein dropped out, he did fine.

Then again you could end up on the street. But that's life, is it not?


lawl a large portion of the world's billionaires
maybe didn't finish college, but high school? bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

plus einstein may not have finished traditional high school, but he studied all the material on his own and did studying at a tech university in switzerland, so he still had a significant education


Actually you're right it was bullshit. I mixed up my facts pretty badly. (Thank you for calling me out on that). 18% of the U.S.'s billionaires didn't finish college. 2 of them didn't finish high school. This only accounts for the U.S. though, I don't have numbers for anything else.

(Source: http://www.forbes.com/2000/06/29/feat.html)

As for Einstein, yes he did study on his own. But the fact that he didn't function well in a traditional high school proves that it's based around a very general learning style that doesn't help quite a few (potentially bright) people.

You can't just have knowledge without studying and learning things, but I think that Einstein's ability to think creatively came from him learning things on his own and being able to make his own conclusions.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
November 04 2007 00:30 GMT
#127
On November 04 2007 03:35 yubee wrote:
i wouldn't call your mom a retard for majoring in accounting when you have a 0.5 GPA.

I would. The way she asks is like a wannabe 14 year old who is slowly watching her life slip away. She and her pathetic friends just talk shit about kids all day, and gossip, it's quite irriating, and it seems like her only point in life is to bring me down, until i realize how little she actually ment, which is what i needed to do.
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Seanithan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States130 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-04 00:57:59
November 04 2007 00:34 GMT
#128
Monkey, did you take my advice and check out FullSail?

As I said they have low requirements for attendance. At least look into it.

Edit: I just checked, the only requirement for enrolling is a high school diploma. They don't care about GPA.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
November 04 2007 03:12 GMT
#129
On November 04 2007 08:15 Seanithan wrote:
For everyone saying that he can't possibly make something of his life if he doesn't do well in high school (or go to college) is highly mistaken. A large portion of the world's billionaires didn't even finish high school.

Einstein dropped out, he did fine.

Then again you could end up on the street. But that's life, is it not?

Even if 75% of the worlds billionaires didn't finish college, doesn't mean much. Look at the people that drive around in nice cars (because thats probably more attainable).

The point of college is its like an insurance policy or like exercising. Its basically planning for the future. So unless you already have a plan (which is better) you should pretty much go to college. Its true, some people aren't "college-type" of people, but even if you are that type of person, you should still try somewhat. Because if you are both educated and hands-on, you will be highly valuable. If you are just educated, ok, and if you are hands-on, thats good, but both is definitely better.

For example, if you want to join the air force, thats fine. But, if you had a college degree and also went into the air force, thats like 10x better (because 90% of those "hands-on" people won't have one). So unless you are sure of what you want to do in life, just plan on getting a college degree because it will probably help you in whatever you do.
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HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
November 04 2007 04:43 GMT
#130
On November 04 2007 02:18 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2007 02:13 bine wrote:
In all honesty: therapy. Get your shit straight. If you never go to school, something else is going on that needs to be fixed.

Not every slacker is a psychopath or retard that needs therapy. Not every slacker has been abused or has alcholic parents, either. I think trying again with a new resolve and outlook may be all the therapy he needs. If not, then there might be need for extra help.

I feel people nowadays rely too much on doctors and medicine when the fault lies within their reach. If they can solve it by themselves with their own will power, seeking help will only make them weaker in the future when they face other problems. Asking for tips is okay, getting someone to help you as if you are diseased is not. Just my opinion.

I think if he maintains the state of mind he has now he is far from ever needing a therapist.

Fuck you, don't perpetuate this baseless stigma. Seriously, people like you cause others to be afraid to get the help they need.
Some of the smartest people I've known have gone through major depression, and therapy helped them develop better coping mechanisms.
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Seanithan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States130 Posts
November 04 2007 04:53 GMT
#131
On November 04 2007 13:43 HeadBangaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2007 02:18 fanatacist wrote:
On November 04 2007 02:13 bine wrote:
In all honesty: therapy. Get your shit straight. If you never go to school, something else is going on that needs to be fixed.

Not every slacker is a psychopath or retard that needs therapy. Not every slacker has been abused or has alcholic parents, either. I think trying again with a new resolve and outlook may be all the therapy he needs. If not, then there might be need for extra help.

I feel people nowadays rely too much on doctors and medicine when the fault lies within their reach. If they can solve it by themselves with their own will power, seeking help will only make them weaker in the future when they face other problems. Asking for tips is okay, getting someone to help you as if you are diseased is not. Just my opinion.

I think if he maintains the state of mind he has now he is far from ever needing a therapist.

Fuck you, don't perpetuate this baseless stigma. Seriously, people like you cause others to be afraid to get the help they need.
Some of the smartest people I've known have gone through major depression, and therapy helped them develop better coping mechanisms.


Do you not also agree that the need for therapy is because of a basic lack of TRUE human communication in this day and age? Therapy was needed much less in older times because people could actually TALK to their friends about things. Now everyone is just messaging each other and texting and there's a void of any real conversation. (How can you feel comfortable confiding in your friends if all you ever talk about is girls and getting wasted?)

There just seems to be a lack of substance in today's society as a whole, but I could definitely be way off.
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-04 04:55:58
November 04 2007 04:54 GMT
#132
I'm going to add something new that might trigger a new spark into this thread and help but if not, just ignore this. It seems u have some serious issues with ur parents(more specifically ur mom). I don't think she's able to control you and even if she did, and force you to go to school it's very unlikely you would've complied anyway. Hence where I get the idea where she's not able to control you or maybe there's something terribly wrong with u that u won't listen to ur fuking parents.

Stop thinking ur so much better or smarter than them all the time and for once try and listen to what they are saying. They brought u into this world and I know for a fact that they truely care for u even if they seem like an ass or whatever u called her earlier. It's great that you've changed ur life around but also take into consideration ur attitude towards ur parents. I can guarentee it will help u more than not. As long as they aren't abusing you or any other serious offense, what's causing u to dislike ur mom so much that u call her a retard or have almost no respect for her?
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 04 2007 05:17 GMT
#133
They don't let you retake classes in the U.S.A.? What kind of bullshit is that?

In my experience, nothing anyone posts here will change you. You'll use it to feel better and continue down the same path.

Good luck and I hope you prove me wrong.

Are you the same person your were when you were in 10th grade? I hope not XD In my experience, everyone changes over the years.

OP, I wouldn't be too worried. Figure out where you want to go in life, and then make a plan on how to get there (obviously it's up to you to be realistic, there's no such thing as planning to win the lottery). We live in countries built on second chances; rarely do people get it right the first time.
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bp1696
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States288 Posts
November 04 2007 14:49 GMT
#134
Take heart dude, it's not too late at all. Colleges love people who find motivation and do shit with it. So here's what you need to do to succeed.

1) Ignore the make a videogame stuff. Unless you make the next Halo, which is not gonna happen, it won't garner enough attention for colleges to care.

2) Get into extracurriculars. I mean stuff like debate, quizbowl, math team, etc. Some sports helps, but it's hard to be really good at sports and do well academically. Volunteer service is good also.

3) Get your grade up. Do the best you can for the next two years. I guarantee that almost all top tier colleges are willing to overlook largely your bad grades IF YOU EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IN A HEARTFELT ESSAY. This brings me to point 4.

4) Sometime in the next year, start drafting your essay. More than anything else in your application, your essay will make or break your entrance. Most people have a hard time finding something to write about, but in your case, you should have no problem delving into your rebirth into academics. Make sure to allow other people to read drafts of your essay. By other people I mean your parents, counselors, and/or teachers you trust. Feedback really helps.

5) Do well on standardized tests. If you have an IQ to get into MIT, you can get above a 95% on the SAT. The way to do it is to do a shitload of practice tests.

6) Have a special talent. This should be music/art/ something cultural based. Sadly, being good at videogames or even being a good programmer does not cut it. I'm serious when I say that 90% of the people I know around me play an instrument or do art/plays/theatre/dancing.

7) If possible, do research at the local university. This can be done by contacting any professor in a field you're interested in and asking to volunteer for them on some project. If you come across as a decent person, most professors love the extra help.


Trust me, this stuff works. I attend a prestigious university and worked in the admissions office for a while. Colleges aren't like graduate or professional schools, they are more flexible in the kind of person they are looking for. As long as you can show how you're improving and that you're pursuing a goal, they'll take a chance on you.

Keep your spirit up and be sure not to burn out. Colleges don't like resume-padders so make sure you take some time for yourself so that in your interview, you'll have interesting stuff to talk about. If you're serious about going to a good school, you can definitely do it.
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TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
November 04 2007 15:46 GMT
#135
I didn't read everyone's post, but I do know this much...

If you want to get into programming video games, you don't necessarily have to go to college. For example, Blizzard hires based on experience and capability. That said, just finish high school, and then start getting certifications. And while you're at it, try to get involved with as many different video game communities as possible. That'll beef up your resume enough to turn people's heads. Video game programming is so broad, but people just want to know that you have the dedication and technical know-how to be able to pick things up.

Now, I'm not telling you to NOT go to college. You probably should. But I'm just saying, there are alot of different ways to go about it. I know most people won't agree. However, my brother, who works for Rockwell Collins, told me that the most experienced/qualified person at the Cedar Rapids office only finished high school, but has many certifications.
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-04 16:06:07
November 04 2007 16:05 GMT
#136
On November 04 2007 08:15 Seanithan wrote:
Einstein dropped out, he did fine.


Bullshit.
He finished high school (not the one where he started) and he graduated from ETH Zurich with a degree in physics.
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Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
November 04 2007 16:42 GMT
#137
Einstein didn't finish HS but he instead joined the ETH Zurich school.

OP are you the next einstein? no. Einstein did his first scientific paper at the age of 15, you have a .5 GPA. Face the facts, I highly doubt your IQ is so high to merit you an entrance to MIT. Stop living in a fantasy world. Either go to a CC raise your GPA and work your ass off or join that Graphics design institute that fanatics told you to consider.

Either that or the army dude. I know people who stayed in HS for 6 years but never with such a disastrous GPA.
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
November 04 2007 17:23 GMT
#138
I feel like i should update the OP with everything i posted since then, since some people seem to be jumping to the conclusion that i am either bragging about my GPA and saying where i should be going, despite my failures, or that i want help getting into MIT, besides the fact MIT seems like a waste of money, i would never get in there, EVER, there is obviously people with similiar IQ's and w/e SAT score i will get, with a GPA too, I'm obviously not getting in there.

And no, i don't claim to be anywhere near how smart einstein was, nor do i think i am the next einstein. So can we drop the whole highschool billionaire einstein genious, etc. discussion? IT's really really pointless. Sure maybe some people who didn't finish highschool or college went on to become billionaires, but let's comapir it to people who own property or cars or business's, i'm sure the number is way lower then. I don't care enough to go into this more.

Oh and yes, i did go to that school link somoene susgested, which didn't look at GPA. Forgot the link ATM, but i'm going to go to the websites susgested in this thread. Don't worry, i read every post in this thread, and will continue to do so.
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
November 04 2007 17:54 GMT
#139
Just ignore the people who can't muster the strength to read the thread and draw the proper conclusions? It's not like you are going to get any decent advice from that bunch.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 04 2007 18:09 GMT
#140
On November 04 2007 13:43 HeadBangaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2007 02:18 fanatacist wrote:
On November 04 2007 02:13 bine wrote:
In all honesty: therapy. Get your shit straight. If you never go to school, something else is going on that needs to be fixed.

Not every slacker is a psychopath or retard that needs therapy. Not every slacker has been abused or has alcholic parents, either. I think trying again with a new resolve and outlook may be all the therapy he needs. If not, then there might be need for extra help.

I feel people nowadays rely too much on doctors and medicine when the fault lies within their reach. If they can solve it by themselves with their own will power, seeking help will only make them weaker in the future when they face other problems. Asking for tips is okay, getting someone to help you as if you are diseased is not. Just my opinion.

I think if he maintains the state of mind he has now he is far from ever needing a therapist.

Fuck you, don't perpetuate this baseless stigma. Seriously, people like you cause others to be afraid to get the help they need.
Some of the smartest people I've known have gone through major depression, and therapy helped them develop better coping mechanisms.

Have you read my subsequent post? No. Good job. Ignored.
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